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Reply #90 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:25pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
How will Albo and Wong, Marles and Dreyfus manage this?

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1855346782433398956

And this

https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1855619925110300851



'The clear problem with the outlawing of insult is that too many things can be interpreted as such. Criticism is easily construed as insult by certain parties… The law should not be aiding and abetting this new intolerance.’
Rowan Atkinson


7. Media Censorship and Freedom of Speech
Freedom of speech: Trump has voiced strong support for freedom of speech and is aligned with figures like Elon Musk, who has advocated for reduced censorship on media platforms. With Musk’s acquisition of social media platforms, there is a shared goal to remove restrictions and allow a broader range of voices and opinions to be heard without censorship. Trump’s administration plans to restore freedom of speech across media, combatting what he perceives as media bias and unnecessary limitations on information sharing.

Impact on Australia
This shift in the U.S. could resonate in Australia, where freedom of speech and media censorship have been hot topics. The Australian government, led by the Labor Party, recently proposed the Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill, aiming to curb misinformation and disinformation on digital platforms. Ironically, the bill is being discussed in Parliament as media coverage is dominated by Trump’s victory, perhaps shifting public attention away from this legislation. If enacted, this bill could allow greater government control over content on social platforms, potentially limiting free speech under the guise of public protection. Australia may face increasing public debate over free speech rights, with Trump's approach possibly inspiring opposition to restrictions and encouraging the government to re-evaluate its stance on media regulation.
https://www.mintequity.com.au/news/trumps-new-term-what-his-policies-mean-for-au...




Good.

Q&A is part of our own Deep State.

Hopefully Dutton will follow Trump and exorcise the demons in it.
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Reply #91 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 8:39pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
This is how you do it.

Trump censors the censors.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855119856649355729


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You are incapable of any sort meaningful conversation to any issue…. More importantly to any of the posts you start with a link and never any comment.

Just a cockwomble click baiting troll.


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Reply #92 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:33pm
 
If enacted, the bill shall not only be in force to affect a future referendum, as many have noted, but also next year’s federal election. ...The argument that this misinformation bill only seeks to hold to account multinational technology conglomerates like Meta is false. It regulates service providers so as to censor individual users’ works and opinions.

From this bill, to Revive, to the Voice to Parliament, to the amendments to Referendum (Machinery Provisions) Act 1984, to the removal of Queen Elizabeth from the five-dollar note, to the introduction of a republic minister, to the installation of an activist governor-general, it is very much the case that, for this Commonwealth government, the end – that is, the centralisation of political power to achieve total control – justifies the means. As a composer and a monarchist, I oppose that end. I believe we all must.

Alexander Voltz



As for the banning of under-16s from social media - do people realise that verifying age will apply to everyone, with its attendant data collection and storage?
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Reply #93 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 8:39pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
This is how you do it.

Trump censors the censors.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1855119856649355729


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif


You are incapable of any sort meaningful conversation to any issue…. More importantly to any of the posts you start with a link and never any comment.

Just a cockwomble click baiting troll.




Reasoning with a moronic cockwomble like Bbwiyawn will never get you anywhere.
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Reply #94 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 4:52pm
 
The future of the free press, citizen journalism, and the public voice hangs in the balance. Elon Musk has made this clear with a bombardment of tweets.

After declaring, ‘This platform [X] is the top source of news on Earth!’ Musk said, ‘Legacy media sits upon a throne of lies!’ He further accused it of ‘relentlessly spreading hate and division’.

‘The legacy media is the propaganda arm of the radical leftists, so [it] will immediately go after anyone who merely wants centrist policies and fairness for all … the reason the public no longer trusts the legacy media is that the media has been exposed as lying too many times to count. Legacy media absolutely deserves the lack of respect and ridicule it gets.’

Musk has also made comments that this election ‘is a verdict on civilisation’ and he may be right. The way in which a government interprets freedom is the foundation of its laws. If freedom means freedom to agree with the government and everything else is dangerous misinformation and disinformation, then Western Civilisation is kindle for the communist fires.

During an interview earlier this year, Elon Musk explained exactly why he believes citizen journalism, which is being heavily promoted by X, is vastly superior to conventional journalism.

‘This is really going to be the new model of news, which is to gather information from people who are at the scene … you’ve got real-time aggregation of the collective wisdom of tens of millions of people. Although something may be said that is incorrect, it is very quickly corrected. Whereas a newspaper that is publishing, what happened yesterday, when you read the article, that article could be wrong, often is wrong, but there’s no rebuttal to the article.’

What Elon Musk says is true, there is a war against free speech. Unpopular governments are obsessed with controlling the press because they perceive criticism as a threat. If government is wrong about something, their God-like status is diminished. The closer a government is to a dictatorship, the more it fears the whispering of its people amplified in print. While Xi Jinping spent Halloween rounding up people dressed as Donald Trump, imagine how terrified our governments are of the day climate change is proven false. The public will want more than a pound of flesh to account for trillions of dollars in missing public money.

It is also true that protecting speech is a business concern for Elon Musk. He has decided to monetise freedom and his business model cannot survive in a world of tyrants and mentally fragile socialist parties.

There are worse things for rich people to do than make a business out of liberating human speech.

Saying that Elon Musk’s business goals align with the fundamental rights of the West is not to pick fault. If capitalism can save democracy, what better proof will we have that free markets are superior to interfering governments who, when appointing themselves to the task of ‘citizen safety’ choose ‘citizen slavery’ as their solution?
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/11/garbage-the-free-press-and-the-war-over-apo...


https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-drive/legal-experts-shoot-d...
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Reply #95 - Nov 11th, 2024 at 5:15pm
 
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #96 - Nov 15th, 2024 at 11:05pm
 
I see why AnAl hates X
Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #97 - Nov 17th, 2024 at 3:15pm
 
Hope this is true -
70 pages of Marxism.

https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/breaking-independent-senators-to


BREAKING: Independent senators to block misinformation bill
As of today, the government does not have enough votes to pass the bill


Rebekah Barnett
Nov 15, 2024

The Australian Government needs the support of half of the crossbench to pass its highly criticised misinformation bill, but today the government ran out of luck.

Four out of six independent senators on the crossbench have now announced their intention to oppose the bill: Senators Tammy Tyrrell, David Pocock, Jacqui Lambie and Fatima Payman. Newly independent Senator Gerard Rennick (formerly of the Liberal Party) had previously announced his intention to vote against the bill.

All these senators’ offices said they had been inundated with calls and emails expressing concerns about the bill - some said they had been contacted by thousands of people. Well done to everyone who called, emailed, or visited a senator in person.

The Coalition is opposing the bill, so even if the Greens vote with the Labor Government, Labor can’t get the bill across the line without these key crossbench votes.

It’s great news! But we can’t relax just yet.

As Senator Matt Canavan posted to X today, “Nothing is certain until the votes are tallied.” The Senate vote will take place either next week or the week after.

Senators who have come out against the bill should be thanked and encouraged, and ideally, undecided Senator Lidia Thorpe and the Greens can be convinced to vote against the bill to make it a safe win.
To quote Senator Canavan again, “The defeat needs to be so comprehensive that no Government thinks of trying this again.”


Senator Lambi, via Facebook

“After careful consideration and listening to feedback, I’ve decided to vote no on the Government’s Misinformation and Disinformation Bill.

“The spread of lies is absolutely a problem for our democracy, but this Bill, as it stands, isn’t the solution.
I’ve gone through its 70+ pages with my team,
talked to folks on all sides, and the message from JLN supporters has been clear: they don’t like it.
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Reply #98 - Nov 17th, 2024 at 3:25pm
 
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Reply #99 - Nov 17th, 2024 at 5:26pm
 
In Europe. France and Italy/Greece are already fearing the rise of Great Britain's Politics, after Germany's failure to compete.
In America, the German failure was like the Confederate failure. Now the Democrats (like France) and the Media (like Italy/Greece) there, feel threatened. Saxon Trump aligns himself with the British style, as he did  with Anglo Boris Johnson and Protestant Scott Morrison.

Mark my words, the Media is the Mafia. Look what the Left Big Brother did to Argentina. I bet Robert DeNiro runs against Trump next Election and he will win. Not that Trump will care much about that, by then.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #100 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:24pm
 
It's dead.

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The government has dumped its misinformation bill to regulate speech on social media.

The bill was widely criticised by legal experts, media companies and the government's political opponents.
Laws to regulate misinformation online abandoned
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Reply #101 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:39pm
 
Down in flames.....

"The Misinformation and Disinformation Bill is no more. Thanks to the relentless efforts of One Nation Senators Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts, this free-speech-killing bill has been defeated after four years of tireless opposition since its introduction by the Liberal Party.

It is likely the Labor Party will try to quietly remove the Bill for consideration by the Senate this morning.

The Liberal-Labor-Greens alliance often marches in lockstep, and Australians are increasingly asking: Who really stands up for free speech?"


that is from One Nation's cheering about it.. no responsibility accepted for any error...

One Nation also wants to chop the limiting of social media for under-16s.... I wonder why when those kids can access the most grotesque Frankenstinian ideas and it is clear that something is adversely affecting the minds of many of them.  Many of the ideas kids are fed online are against what One Nation says it stands for....... ummmm ....all the trendy sh
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Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Reply #102 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:39pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
It's dead.

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In short:
The government has dumped its misinformation bill to regulate speech on social media.

The bill was widely criticised by legal experts, media companies and the government's political opponents.
Laws to regulate misinformation online abandoned


Jesus - that Bill Scrapped is sure ugly ...
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Reply #103 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:49pm
 
Just like “Albo voice “ another failure with his name on it
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Re: Labors MAD Orwellian Ministry of Truth bill
Reply #104 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 4:11pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
It's dead.

Quote:
In short:
The government has dumped its misinformation bill to regulate speech on social media.

The bill was widely criticised by legal experts, media companies and the government's political opponents.
Laws to regulate misinformation online abandoned


Jesus - that Bill Scrapped is sure ugly ...



Yes - over 70 pages of Big Brother - Ministry of Truth, nonsense.

It was a disguise for the Govt to get the real names of
everyone who posts on social media and then silence them with Thought Police
if they disagreed with any Govt policy.
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