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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #60 - Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:17pm

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We want all that money home NOW - and a single national super fund with equal treatment for all, which will be insulated from 'stock market fluctuations'

I don't. That would mean crappy returns and more parasites taking a cut.

Why would you want to force someone who is living off their super to be treated the same way as a 20 year old who can afford to take a few risks because they have a 40 year outlook?

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #62 - Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:04am

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:25pm:

Run that one by me slowly again, freediver - HOW would anyone currently living on super be disadvantaged as you indicate?

I would be. I benefit from stock market fluctuations. I do not want the government to "protect" me from them by putting me into a super fund that is designed by people who are afraid of their own shadow and that is managed by parasites. Not that I am living off my super, but I will be one day, and my thoughts won't change then.

It is only the communists at heart who think everyone should be forced into the same economic situation and that the government would do a better job of managing people's money than they would themselves. That you cannot even conceive of people being disadvantaged by your idea demonstrates both a lack of awareness of the world around you and a lack of imagination.

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #63 - Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:10am

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:12pm:

National Future Fund For All NOW!! Jim Chalmers lamenting about the stock market - it won't affect his fu

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ing pension, which is preserved from every disaster via Howard's STOLEN $232Bn from the sale of Telstra... nice little bonus for selling off the farm.

We want all that money home NOW - and a single national super fund with equal treatment for all, which will be insulated from 'stock market fluctuations' by being primarily dedicated to infrastructure loans to governments, at a fair rate of interest .

We don't pay public servants to work from home. Albo - it isn't a RIGHT to work from f

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cking home. Back to work!!

Have I got this right, we want the government to take our super for a 8-10% interest meaning we the taxpayers will pay that interest to the super fund.

Good idea, we can use the interest we get from super to pay the interest on our government loans.

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #64 - Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:48am

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:04am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:25pm:

Run that one by me slowly again, freediver - HOW would anyone currently living on super be disadvantaged as you indicate?

I would be. I benefit from stock market fluctuations. I do not want the government to "protect" me from them by putting me into a super fund that is designed by people who are afraid of their own shadow and that is managed by parasites. Not that I am living off my super, but I will be one day, and my thoughts won't change then.

It is only the communists at heart who think everyone should be forced into the same economic situation and that the government would do a better job of managing people's money than they would themselves. That you cannot even conceive of people being disadvantaged by your idea demonstrates both a lack of awareness of the world around you and a lack of imagination.

You would not be affected under The Grappler Scheme - your BASIC superannuation fund held in the mega-store would not alter - you would still be able to ply the stock markets with your extra cash and seek all the applicable tax concessions - even if your 'stock market' crashes you will retain your basic super - it's a way of actually 'replacing' pensions with 'super' - kind of a Howard motion - you recall..... It's a complex issue - and I'm still at the early stages of it - same as The Two State Solution and a few other things intended to liberate the country from fear and terror and disadvantage and inequality and thus division and conquest by self-interest groups... you know MY drift by now.

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #65 - Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:51am

Leroy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:12pm:

National Future Fund For All NOW!! Jim Chalmers lamenting about the stock market - it won't affect his fu

ck

ing pension, which is preserved from every disaster via Howard's STOLEN $232Bn from the sale of Telstra... nice little bonus for selling off the farm.

We want all that money home NOW - and a single national super fund with equal treatment for all, which will be insulated from 'stock market fluctuations' by being primarily dedicated to infrastructure loans to governments, at a fair rate of interest .

We don't pay public servants to work from home. Albo - it isn't a RIGHT to work from f

u

cking home. Back to work!!

Have I got this right, we want the government to take our super for a 8-10% interest meaning we the taxpayers will pay that interest to the super fund.

Good idea, we can use the interest we get from super to pay the interest on our government loans.

But in return you will receive a guaranteed super payout - along with the added security and stability and national prosperity from enhanced infrastructure - meaning your entire lifestyle will be more secure - money not wasted on 'social science' fantasies, but added to ..... value added for the nation.

I have to go now - keep up the work... bring the bastards to heel - all of them.

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #66 - Apr 8^th, 2025 at 12:03pm

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2025 at 11:04am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2025 at 6:25pm:

Run that one by me slowly again, freediver - HOW would anyone currently living on super be disadvantaged as you indicate?

I would be. I benefit from stock market fluctuations. I do not want the government to "protect" me from them by putting me into a super fund that is designed by people who are afraid of their own shadow and that is managed by parasites. Not that I am living off my super, but I will be one day, and my thoughts won't change then.

It is only the communists at heart who think everyone should be forced into the same economic situation and that the government would do a better job of managing people's money than they would themselves. That you cannot even conceive of people being disadvantaged by your idea demonstrates both a lack of awareness of the world around you and a lack of imagination.

You would not be affected under The Grappler Scheme - your BASIC superannuation fund held in the mega-store would not alter - you would still be able to ply the stock markets with your extra cash and seek all the applicable tax concessions - even if your 'stock market' crashes you will retain your basic super - it's a way of actually 'replacing' pensions with 'super' - kind of a Howard motion - you recall..... It's a complex issue - and I'm still at the early stages of it - same as The Two State Solution and a few other things intended to liberate the country from fear and terror and disadvantage and inequality and thus division and conquest by self-interest groups... you know MY drift by now.

Grappler Motto -

superbe non sicut alii

So it's just a "free" handout?

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