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Aug 25^th, 2024 at 5:10am

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.......... Voters are now less confident that the former president can fully digest his national security briefings, hold his own in a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin or even survive a full four-year term than when we last asked them for their views in March.
In just a few months, concern about fitness for office has shifted from Biden to Trump, who is now the oldest US presidential candidate in history. .............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13758613/donald-trump-fitness-age-biden...

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Reply #3 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:32am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 5:10am:

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.......... Voters are now less confident that the former president can fully digest his national security briefings, hold his own in a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin or even survive a full four-year term than when we last asked them for their views in March.
In just a few months, concern about fitness for office has shifted from Biden to Trump, who is now the oldest US presidential candidate in history. .............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13758613/donald-trump-fitness-age-biden...

Trump is not taking breifings because he believes he already knows what is happening and he believes the Intelligence agencies are trying to set a trap for him....Dangerous conspiracy bullshit from someone who has shown he has no idea about foreign policy....Trump refuses to accept breifings because he prefers to remain ignorant!!!

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In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, the former president said he could now get the briefings if he wanted them but sensed a trap.

'I don't want them, because, number one, I know what's happening. It's very easy to see what's happening,' he said before attacking President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, his newly installed election opponent.

'We have an incompetent leader, and we have two incompetent leaders.

'We have a Marxist that's going to try and be president, and this country is not ready for a Marxist or a communist president, and that's what she is.

'She destroyed San Francisco, she destroyed California, and this country is not ready for it.

'So I don't want that, because as soon as I get that, they'll say that I leaked it.

'So the best way to handle that situation is, I don't need that briefing. They come in, they give you a briefing, and then two days later, they leak it, and then they say You leaked it.

'So the only way to solve that problem is not to take it I don't want it understood. I'll have plenty of them when I get in.'

Rambling bullshit from Trump as usual....How has Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco and California....What intelligence has Trump been accused of leaking???

Huh

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13766739/donald-trump-interview-intelli...

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Reply #5 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:52am

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 5:10am:

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.......... Voters are now less confident that the former president can fully digest his national security briefings, hold his own in a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin or even survive a full four-year term than when we last asked them for their views in March.
In just a few months, concern about fitness for office has shifted from Biden to Trump, who is now the oldest US presidential candidate in history. .............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13758613/donald-trump-fitness-age-biden...

Trump is not taking breifings because he believes he already knows what is happening and he believes the Intelligence agencies are trying to set a trap for him....Dangerous conspiracy bullshit from someone who has shown he has no idea about foreign policy....Trump refuses to accept breifings because he prefers to remain ignorant!!!

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In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, the former president said he could now get the briefings if he wanted them but sensed a trap.

'I don't want them, because, number one, I know what's happening. It's very easy to see what's happening,' he said before attacking President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, his newly installed election opponent.

'We have an incompetent leader, and we have two incompetent leaders.

'We have a Marxist that's going to try and be president, and this country is not ready for a Marxist or a communist president, and that's what she is.

'She destroyed San Francisco, she destroyed California, and this country is not ready for it.

'So I don't want that, because as soon as I get that, they'll say that I leaked it.

'So the best way to handle that situation is, I don't need that briefing. They come in, they give you a briefing, and then two days later, they leak it, and then they say You leaked it.

'So the only way to solve that problem is not to take it I don't want it understood. I'll have plenty of them when I get in.'

Rambling bullshit from Trump as usual....How has Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco and California....What intelligence has Trump been accused of leaking???

Huh

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13766739/donald-trump-interview-intelli...

A paranoid rambler

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Reply #6 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:54am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:52am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 5:10am:

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.......... Voters are now less confident that the former president can fully digest his national security briefings, hold his own in a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin or even survive a full four-year term than when we last asked them for their views in March.
In just a few months, concern about fitness for office has shifted from Biden to Trump, who is now the oldest US presidential candidate in history. .............

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13758613/donald-trump-fitness-age-biden...

Trump is not taking breifings because he believes he already knows what is happening and he believes the Intelligence agencies are trying to set a trap for him....Dangerous conspiracy bullshit from someone who has shown he has no idea about foreign policy....Trump refuses to accept breifings because he prefers to remain ignorant!!!

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In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, the former president said he could now get the briefings if he wanted them but sensed a trap.

'I don't want them, because, number one, I know what's happening. It's very easy to see what's happening,' he said before attacking President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, his newly installed election opponent.

'We have an incompetent leader, and we have two incompetent leaders.

'We have a Marxist that's going to try and be president, and this country is not ready for a Marxist or a communist president, and that's what she is.

'She destroyed San Francisco, she destroyed California, and this country is not ready for it.

'So I don't want that, because as soon as I get that, they'll say that I leaked it.

'So the best way to handle that situation is, I don't need that briefing. They come in, they give you a briefing, and then two days later, they leak it, and then they say You leaked it.

'So the only way to solve that problem is not to take it I don't want it understood. I'll have plenty of them when I get in.'

Rambling bullshit from Trump as usual....How has Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco and California....What intelligence has Trump been accused of leaking???

Huh

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13766739/donald-trump-interview-intelli...

A paranoid rambler

Who believes he already knows whats going on in the world from watching Fox News and listening to Elon Musk???

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Reply #7 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 11:00am

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

Trump [] believes the Intelligence agencies are trying to set a trap for him....

He isn't the first to come to a similar conclusion.

In his 'military-industrial(-congressional) complex' speech, Eisenhower warned of the powerful undemocratic forces controlling US intelligence and military services.

JFK realised that the CIA could, would, and did operate without presidential authorisation.

Reagan blamed the Iran-Contra scandal on internal forces beyond his knowledge and control.

Truman ultimately dismissed General MacArthur for insubordination.

Even Lincoln battled with generals who acted independently or (treasonously) countermanded presidential orders (e.g. General George McClellan).

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Reply #8 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 11:00am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

Trump [] believes the Intelligence agencies are trying to set a trap for him....

He isn't the first to come to a similar conclusion.

In his 'military-industrial(-congressional) complex' speech, Eisenhower warned of the powerful undemocratic forces controlling US intelligence and military services.

JFK realised that the CIA could, would, and did operate without presidential authorisation.

Reagan blamed the Iran-Contra scandal on internal forces beyond his knowledge and control.

Truman ultimately dismissed General MacArthur for insubordination.

Even Lincoln battled with generals who acted independently or (treasonously) countermanded presidential orders (e.g. General George McClellan).

I believe Trump is trying to claim the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club....He is also not taking breifings because he already knows whats going on....Nixon also claimed he was innocent???

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Judge asks Trump’s team for proof that FBI planted documents at Mar-a-Lago

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/22/trump-special-master-fbi-documen...

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Reply #9 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:07pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

I believe Trump is trying to claim the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club....He is also not taking breifings because he already knows whats going on....

Although from the outside it's highly unlikely that the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club, conspiracy of this kind is also not unprecedented.

The reason alternative theories to the 'lone gunman' assassination of JFK persist undimmed to this day is that, like a classic whodunnit murder mystery, so many organisations and individuals had plausible motives for wanting him dead.

From the Mafia, the CIA, the DOD, the FBI - including Hoover, himself - they all had motivations to see Kennedy gone.

Similar to Kennedy, (although for different reasons), Trump's humiliating treatment of government institutions means he has few if any loyal friends within them and many enemies who have plausible motivations to ensure he does not become president again.

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Reply #10 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:15pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

I believe Trump is trying to claim the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club....He is also not taking breifings because he already knows whats going on....

Although from the outside it's highly unlikely that the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club, conspiracy of this kind is also not unprecedented.

The reason alternative theories to the 'lone gunman' assassination of JFK persist undimmed to this day is that, like a classic whodunnit murder mystery, so many organisations and individuals had plausible motives for wanting him dead.

From the Mafia, the CIA, the DOD, the FBI - including Hoover, himself - they all had motivations to see Kennedy gone.

Similar to Kennedy, (although for different reasons), Trump's humiliating treatment of government institutions means he has few if any loyal friends within them and many enemies who have plausible motivations to ensure he does not become president again.

Like any conspiracy theory to be true it would involve many bad actors at high level to conspire and keep secret....There is no evidence to support Trump's bullshit claims!!!

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Reply #11 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

I believe Trump is trying to claim the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club....He is also not taking breifings because he already knows whats going on....

Although from the outside it's highly unlikely that the FBI planted the classified documents at his golf club, conspiracy of this kind is also not unprecedented.

The reason alternative theories to the 'lone gunman' assassination of JFK persist undimmed to this day is that, like a classic whodunnit murder mystery, so many organisations and individuals had plausible motives for wanting him dead.

From the Mafia, the CIA, the DOD, the FBI - including Hoover, himself - they all had motivations to see Kennedy gone.

Similar to Kennedy, (although for different reasons), Trump's humiliating treatment of government institutions means he has few if any loyal friends within them and many enemies who have plausible motivations to ensure he does not become president again.

Like any conspiracy theory to be true it would involve many bad actors at high level to conspire and keep secret....There is no evidence to support Trump's bullshit claims!!!

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How many is 'many' to you?

For a 'fake moon landing' theory to be true it would involve many (as in thousands) to be in on it and keep stumm.

Any alternative JFK assassination theory may need to involve many (as in dozens or fewer) to be in on it and keep stumm.

It's easy to fall into the Dunning-Kruger effect when assessing the possible truth behind any conspiracy theory, such as imagining that 'many' always refers to thousands.

How many would 'many' be in the planting of classified documents? Three? Five?

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Reply #13 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 5:54pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

Were are all the rethuglicans who were last election claiming Biden was to old to run ... Trump is now older than Biden was then, why don't they speak out now?

I always thought both men were far too old.
During this year I thought whatever party replaced their leader would win the election

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Reply #14 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 6:31pm

he's becoming more delusional and confused.
A judge said his team have a very low understanding of reality.
Now that he is the old candidate the age query is entirely on him.
He poked fun at Bidens age for years, he has made that a focus and weakness.
Now everyone is watching him more closely for his aging condition.
The immense weight of his lies are gathering on him, more and more people are seeing his personality as one not being suited to a position of public responsibility.

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..........NPR counted 162 “lies and distortions” by the former president in his Q&A. ............
.......... To start with, Trump does not know Brown “very well.” In fact, he barely knows him at all. ..........
.............. Brown says he has never been in a helicopter with Trump.
Most importantly, anyone who really knows Brown knows he would never badmouth Harris.
The two dated for a year or two in the mid-1990s and Brown helped launch her political career, starting with San Francisco district attorney. The two remain friendly. And at the top of Brown’s values list is loyalty to friends and allies. .............
................. Trump incredulously continued to insist it was Brown aboard the crippled chopper and claimed he had maintenance records and logs to prove it. But they’ve never been produced. ........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-either-delusional-confused-hes-100009492.html

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