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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4151 Gender:	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #195 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 12:11pm State issue, oh please. If its men who have to carry dead babies, dangerous non viable pregancy leading to death, or product of incest or rape. You bet this would be more than a state issue, it would be universal human rights issues enshrined in the constitution.
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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #196 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 2:25pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

State issue, oh please. If its men who have to carry dead babies, dangerous non viable pregancy leading to death, or product of incest or rape. You bet this would be more than a state issue, it would be universal human rights issues enshrined in the constitution.

Unfortunately, I agree

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #197 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

Yup, a woman’s waters broke before the fetus had developed lungs. It could not survive but this woman still had to carry the dead and decaying fetus in her womb tho it was STONE DEAD!

Zero concern for women, obviously. More about control of women.

With a 60:40 vote in rightwing Kansas obviously the vast majority of Americans believe that women should be able to control their own bodies, their own productive health.

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If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #198 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 4:36pm

Panther wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 10:30am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 1:15am:

Panther wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 6:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

You are joking! Some states that put abortion rights to a referendum have had to pass laws to legalise abortion rights.

The tide is against you. People want the right to terminate a pregnancy. Especially after the many horror stories that have happened due to strict abortion bans.

No, panther would not be joking at all.
american radical extremists believe everything trump says, anything else is a conspiracy or fake.
they totally disbelieve any facts or statistics.
Couple this with paranoia and a lust for gun violence, now you get a picture of many americans

As I said before I will say again.......We shall see what we shall see.....we Americans like our laws & lawmakers close to home, not in DC....easier to alter or recall if we ever change our minds. https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

Only time will tell.....

That's true, Panther. You do like your lawmakers close to home, no?

So how do you feel about a certain presidential candidate convicted under one state's laws, and curently under arrest facing charges in a second?

That's a question
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Is your question is not about Abortion & the Power to regulate them at the State level, then your question will go unanswered in this thread....

Hijacking, last I was aware of it, is frowned upon, & not permissible on these forums.

I see. You don't want to say.

No worries. What will you say when the issue of abortion is raised in the federal Congress?

Federal funding for planned parenthood, for example. Or federal laws regulating abortion.

Your DL refuses to say what he"ll do if a bill crosses his desk.

You?

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #199 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 6:06pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 10:30am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 1:15am:

Panther wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 6:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

You are joking! Some states that put abortion rights to a referendum have had to pass laws to legalise abortion rights.

The tide is against you. People want the right to terminate a pregnancy. Especially after the many horror stories that have happened due to strict abortion bans.

No, panther would not be joking at all.
american radical extremists believe everything trump says, anything else is a conspiracy or fake.
they totally disbelieve any facts or statistics.
Couple this with paranoia and a lust for gun violence, now you get a picture of many americans

As I said before I will say again.......We shall see what we shall see.....we Americans like our laws & lawmakers close to home, not in DC....easier to alter or recall if we ever change our minds. https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif

Only time will tell.....

That's true, Panther. You do like your lawmakers close to home, no?

So how do you feel about a certain presidential candidate convicted under one state's laws, and curently under arrest facing charges in a second?

That's a question
.

Is your question is not about Abortion & the Power to regulate them at the State level, then your question will go unanswered in this thread....

Hijacking, last I was aware of it, is frowned upon, & not permissible on these forums.

I see. You don't want to say.

No worries. What will you say when the issue of abortion is raised in the federal Congress?

Federal funding for planned parenthood, for example. Or federal laws regulating abortion.

Your DL refuses to say what he"ll do if a bill crosses his desk.

You?

I'd say.....Cut Planned Parenthood to the very bone....or if possible, withdraw all funding for any abortion related services (fetal tissue research....etc....etc)

The United States Supreme Court ruled that only the People through the State's Legislatures had the power to regulate abortion.....Why?......Government (Congress & the Executive) have no Constitutional Powers expressly delegated to them in the US Constitution to regulate Abortion, therefore the Tenth Amendment applies, reserving such powers to the States &/or to the American People.

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God Bless
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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #200 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 7:59pm

Panther wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

You are joking! Some states that put abortion rights to a referendum have had to pass laws to legalise abortion rights.

The tide is against you. People want the right to terminate a pregnancy. Especially after the many horror stories that have happened due to strict abortion bans.

[font=Georgia]We shall see what we shall see.....we Americans like our laws & lawmakers close to home, not in DC....easier to alter or recall if we ever change our minds. <snip for forum rule>

[i]God Bless
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God Bless
AMERICA!

How ironical that your jeremaid for state's rights, ends with a America icon.

You don't like Americans, you don't trust Americans. You don't want to be ruled by Americans, you only want to be ruled by those closest to you.

Why not reject your state too? If you're rural, you don't want to be ruled by city folk even if they are of your own state. If you're urban, you definitely don't want to be ruled by ill-educated and prejudiced rural folk.

Why not go the whole hog, and reject government other than pappy and his shotgun?

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #201 - Sep 26^th, 2024 at 8:08pm

Panther wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 10:30am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2024 at 1:15am:

Panther wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 6:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 25^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

You are joking! Some states that put abortion rights to a referendum have had to pass laws to legalise abortion rights.

The tide is against you. People want the right to terminate a pregnancy. Especially after the many horror stories that have happened due to strict abortion bans.

No, panther would not be joking at all.
american radical extremists believe everything trump says, anything else is a conspiracy or fake.
they totally disbelieve any facts or statistics.
Couple this with paranoia and a lust for gun violence, now you get a picture of many americans

As I said before I will say again.......We shall see what we shall see.....we Americans like our laws & lawmakers close to home, not in DC....easier to alter or recall if we ever change our minds. <snip for forum rules>

Only time will tell.....

That's true, Panther. You do like your lawmakers close to home, no?

So how do you feel about a certain presidential candidate convicted under one state's laws, and curently under arrest facing charges in a second?

That's a question
.

Is your question is not about Abortion & the Power to regulate them at the State level, then your question will go unanswered in this thread....

Hijacking, last I was aware of it, is frowned upon, & not permissible on these forums.

Mentioning Donald Trump's position on Abortion, is not threadjacking.

While we're at that point, perhaps you'd like to propound what Donald Trump's position on abortion actually is.

As far as I can tell, he's strongly against it whenever talking to a sympathetic audience, but quite confused when talking to an interviewer. He has outright refuted the Kansas position; that seems to strike some human nerve in his dead carcass.

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #202 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 9:45am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Repealing the Roe v Wade legislation was one of the most backwards steps the United States has ever taken legislatively and really does defy belief. The fact that they don't want, for example, a 12 year old rape victim to be able to have an abortion so she doesn't have to carry the baby of her rapist when she's just a child herself shows just how devoid they (Republicans) are of a moral compass. I hope that the Dems are somehow able to overcome that repeal and bring back the right to choose for women.

‘Voters just didn’t care’: The abortion-rights movement grapples with Trump’s return
Abortion-rights activists say it’s imperative they figure out what went wrong in the wake of their worst setback since the fall of Roe two years ago.

The abortion-rights movement did everything it could to convince voters that Donald Trump was too dangerous to allow back into the White House. It didn’t work.

As the magnitude of Democrats’ defeat becomes clear, abortion-rights leaders and candidates who made the issue central to their campaigns are struggling to understand how millions of people could have voted for ballot initiatives restoring or expanding access to the procedure while also voting for Trump.

“Apparently this issue was not as important to a wide segment of the American electorate as we thought it was, or that we hoped it was.”

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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #203 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 6:58pm

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2024 at 9:45am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Repealing the Roe v Wade legislation was one of the most backwards steps the United States has ever taken legislatively and really does defy belief. The fact that they don't want, for example, a 12 year old rape victim to be able to have an abortion so she doesn't have to carry the baby of her rapist when she's just a child herself shows just how devoid they (Republicans) are of a moral compass. I hope that the Dems are somehow able to overcome that repeal and bring back the right to choose for women.

‘Voters just didn’t care’: The abortion-rights movement grapples with Trump’s return
Abortion-rights activists say it’s imperative they figure out what went wrong in the wake of their worst setback since the fall of Roe two years ago.

The abortion-rights movement did everything it could to convince voters that Donald Trump was too dangerous to allow back into the White House. It didn’t work.

As the magnitude of Democrats’ defeat becomes clear, abortion-rights leaders and candidates who made the issue central to their campaigns are struggling to understand how millions of people could have voted for ballot initiatives restoring or expanding access to the procedure while also voting for Trump.

“Apparently this issue was not as important to a wide segment of the American electorate as we thought it was, or that we hoped it was.”

As far as I know, most of my fellow Americans obviously put the 'Right to Kill the Innocent Unborn' way down on their list of importance.

As it's been said in just about every national elections, it's all about the ECONOMY.....& then comes Stronger Borders.....America is for Americans......etc.....etc......etc. In the States, Abortion barely made it into the National picture.......the outcomes make that abundantly obvious.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2810 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #204 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 10:02pm In case no one noticed, kllling the un born is a State issue.
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Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban
Reply #205 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 10:15pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 21^st, 2024 at 10:02pm:

In case no one noticed, kllling the un born is a State issue.

Correct......Since the United States Supreme Court's 2022 Dobbs v. Jackson, overturning Roe v Wade, the Court found that there was no Right to an Abortion protected by the US Constitution, any regulation pertaining to Abortion belonged to the 50 individual States via the 10th Amendment.

In Kansas the Citizens of the State of Kansas, the People, decided that the existing bans on abortion must be removed, & that the State's Legislature is ordered to make it so.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98447	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #206 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 11:00pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 21^st, 2024 at 10:02pm: In case no one noticed, kllling the un born is a State issue. Where does the Constitution say that?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51520 Gender:	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #207 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 6:05am Karnal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2024 at 11:00pm: Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 21^st, 2024 at 10:02pm: In case no one noticed, kllling the un born is a State issue. Where does the Constitution say that? Tenth Amendment.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Run for me, MAGA bunny. Posts: 14179 Colorado Gender:	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #208 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 7:08am Shut the bugger up, F A T Frank. You have absolutely no idea what the 10th Amendment is about.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51520 Gender:	Re: Kansas rejects abortion ban Reply #209 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 7:27am Marla wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 7:08am: Shut the bugger up, F A T Frank. You have absolutely no idea what the 10th Amendment is about. Tell us, then.
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