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Goose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 630	Re: Many major websites are down globally Reply #45 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 9:55pm Cash only at my local Coles. ATM in centre still working though so everyone had to line up to get cash and then go into Coles. ATM line out the door
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Reply #46 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 5:14pm:

Stay with us as we bring you all the latest news on this developing story.

Not if you're on a Windows PC Grin

I’ve been told not to put on my windows desktop computer…

At least my iPhone is still operating. Well I’m here aren’t I

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Reply #47 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:05pm

Goose wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 9:55pm:

Cash only at my local Coles.
ATM in centre still working though so everyone had to line up to get cash and then go into Coles. ATM line out the door

It's ridiculous -
one person makes one mistake with a line of code on the other side of the world
and brings down the whole world.

https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/global-outage-intl-hnk/index.html

52 min ago

Microsoft says the underlying cause for the global outage has been fixed but impacts continue
From CNN’s Maisie Linford

Microsoft

said the “underlying cause” that caused the global outage “has been fixed,”
adding that residual impact is still affecting some services.

“The underlying cause has been fixed, however, residual impact is continuing to
affect some Microsoft 365 apps and services,” Microsoft said in a post on X Friday.

“We’re conducting additional mitigations to provide relief,” the post added.

More on what’s behind this: The outage appears to stem at least partly from a software update issued by firm

CrowdStrike

, experts tell CNN.
The CEO of CrowdStrike said that the IT issue causing a global outage
has been identified and that a fix has been deployed.

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Reply #48 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:17pm

Being too reliant on card transactions only is asking for trouble.
Cash should always be accepted as legal tender (and not to force us into becoming a cashless society) and the old fashioned advice, such as my daughter has done … put $50 inside the cover of your phone just in case …. Will lessons be learnt by all?

I will go out tomorrow driving to Peninsula and will see what’s happening in the area…

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Reply #49 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 12:09am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

Short version, looks like an update to CrowdStrike's anti-malware tools is to blame.

When it loads the DLLs for the service, it causes the device to blue screen.

Once it blue screens enough times, it will boot to the recovery console.

For servers, this is bad.

Also not great for workstations but at least there are people in front of them.

If you can boot into safe mode, there are things you can do to disable the CS service from starting, and get back into things as normal.

CS should be pushing an update out soon which will stop further devices from having the problem.

The issue is, any device that already installed the update and is blue screening will probably not stay online long enough to receive the fix, so it's going to need someone physically at the device to login to safe mode, so they'll need local admin access, and rename or delete some files then reboot.

It's a sneakernet fix...

Only admin people - IT staff are allowed to do that in any company -
one computer at a time - what if there are 2,000 computers?

That's why my night is so buggered.

I've got everyone available heading to sites now, they all know what to do, I'm heading gout now too.

Gonna be a long night...

I bet they don't pay you enough?

Do you get overtime rates?

I don't take a wage, I pay others.

All those who chose to help out tonight will be getting 2.5x for their trouble, plus all travel and food for those who went right from the office without getting to eat first.

It's been an expensive night.

Will let the AMs sort out the billing next week.

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Reply #52 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:04am

Sophia wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Cash should always be accepted as legal tender ...

It's up the the vendor.

If they don't want to accept cash, that's fine.

I can understand why they might not.

For example, cash is a target for robberies.

And, there's the hassle of having to take it to the bank.

I carry $185 (one of each note) in my wallet all the time, but I can't remember the last time I've ever used cash.

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Reply #53 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Sophia wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Cash should always be accepted as legal tender ...

It's up the the vendor.

If they don't want to accept cash, that's fine.

I can understand why they might not.

For example, cash is a target for robberies.

And, there's the hassle of having to take it to the bank.

I carry $185 (one of each note) in my wallet all the time, but I can't remember the last time I've ever used cash.

Cash in large amounts is dangerous - robbers will kill people to get it.

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Reply #54 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:16am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Sophia wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Cash should always be accepted as legal tender ...

It's up the the vendor.

If they don't want to accept cash, that's fine.

I can understand why they might not.

For example, cash is a target for robberies.

And, there's the hassle of having to take it to the bank.

I carry $185 (one of each note) in my wallet all the time, but I can't remember the last time I've ever used cash.

Cash in large amounts is dangerous - robbers will kill people to get it.

Exactly.

I can perfectly understand why, for example, a young woman running a small fashion/jewellery shop wouldn't want to accept cash.

If it's just her running the business, with no employees, she wouldn't want to be sitting in the shop alone with a pile of cash.

She'd be an easy target.

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Reply #55 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:16am:

Exactly.

I can perfectly understand why, for example, a young woman running a small fashion/jewellery shop wouldn't want to accept cash.

If it's just her running the business, with no employees, she wouldn't want to be sitting in the shop alone with a pile of cash.

She'd be an easy target.

It's also why pay packets filled with cash are never given out in large companies.
Armed robbers would turn up on payday and take everyone's envelope
just before they were handed out.
You have to be paid into a bank account - there is no other option.

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Reply #56 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:44am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 11:16am:

Exactly.

I can perfectly understand why, for example, a young woman running a small fashion/jewellery shop wouldn't want to accept cash.

If it's just her running the business, with no employees, she wouldn't want to be sitting in the shop alone with a pile of cash.

She'd be an easy target.

It's also why pay packets filled with cash are never given out in large companies.
Armed robbers would turn up on payday and take everyone's envelope
just before they were handed out.
You have to be paid into a bank account - there is no other option.

That actually happened to me.

The office girls at the place I worked were carrying the pay packets to an adjacent building about 50 metres away and a car pulled up and robbed them.

They threw the office girls to the ground and stole all the pay packets.

That was about 40 years ago.

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Reply #57 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 12:21pm

Just been reading about this in today's West Australian.

I was rather amused to see a picture of a "Cash Only" sign in a Liquorland store. And I bet there were many others just like it.

However, the biggest 'crisis' of the day seemed to be the cancellation of 7 Jetstar flights to Bali from Perth Airport and the bogans were not very happy.

Cry me a river. Roll Eyes

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Reply #58 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 1:01pm

Carl D wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 12:21pm:

Just been reading about this in today's West Australian.

I was rather amused to see a picture of a "Cash Only" sign in a Liquorland store. And I bet there many others just like it.

However, the biggest 'crisis' of the day seemed to be the cancellation of 7 Jetstar flights to Bali from Perth Airport and the bogans were not very happy.

Cry me a river. Roll Eyes

Lol

Bogans and hi-vis vests. Welcome to Perth Airport.

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Reply #59 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 7:43am:

Given that IT outages require only a few cash dollars to get by, compared to the tens of thousands of dollars each of us annually transacts electronically, if cash is still king, it's a very small one in a rubber boat.

It’s not so much how many prefer cash or card…. It’s about free choice, not per se forcing everyone to go digital.

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