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UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:15pm

How is that democracy when a party with 34% of the vote wins 65% of the seats?

It doesn't look decent.

Most of those 65% of Labor seats were won with a handful of votes which means the next election could be a landslide the other way.

Allegations are emerging that Starmer has an association with UK and US security services and that his emergence was a coup against Jeremy Corbyn followed by a coup against democracy.

Starmer was closely associated with the UK judicial actions against Julian Assaange.

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Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Reply #1 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:15pm:

How is that democracy when a party with 34% of the vote wins 65% of the seats?

It doesn't look decent.

Most of those 65% of Labor seats were won with a handful of votes which means the next election could be a landslide the other way.

Allegations are emerging that Starmer has an association with UK and US security services and that his emergence was a coup against Jeremy Corbyn followed by a coup against democracy.

Starmer was closely associated with the UK judicial actions against Julian Assaange.

That's not all that far off Australia's results. It's a consequence of having single member electorates. Plus, they use first past the post voting there, so you do not need 50% support to win. Just more votes than each of the other candidates.

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Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Reply #2 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:40pm

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

That's not all that far off Australia's results. It's a consequence of having single member electorates. Plus, they use first past the post voting there, so you do not need 50% support to win. Just more votes than each of the other candidates.

It is not democracy when 65% of the electorate voted against the party that wins power.

It is definitely not any sort of mandate.

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Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Reply #3 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:42pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

That's not all that far off Australia's results. It's a consequence of having single member electorates. Plus, they use first past the post voting there, so you do not need 50% support to win. Just more votes than each of the other candidates.

It is not democracy when 65% of the electorate voted against the party that wins power.

It is definitely not any sort of mandate.

Would the French system be better?

The highest 2 parties return for a second vote.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats Reply #4 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:50pm It is arguable that the Jews won the UK election with 0.5% of the UK population producing a landslide supported by UK and USA security services.
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Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

That's not all that far off Australia's results. It's a consequence of having single member electorates. Plus, they use first past the post voting there, so you do not need 50% support to win. Just more votes than each of the other candidates.

It is not democracy when 65% of the electorate voted against the party that wins power.

It is definitely not any sort of mandate.

There still needs to be a winner, even if everyone wants something different.

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Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats
Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:15pm:

Allegations are emerging that Starmer has an association with UK and US security services

Rumours suggest that maybe democracy could be linked with banks and allegations of money, security and the press. These hints are possibly started by people, bots and something.

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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline Not sad, just paying attention to how cooked it is Posts: 22206 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 4:48pm The conservative party only won 36.9% of the popular vote and won 330 out of the 650 seats in 2015. It's the same thing. Curious how some people only complain when it's the other side who benefits from those circumstances.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53355 At my desk.	Re: UK forsakes democracy. 34% of the vote 65% seats Reply #8 - May 23^rd, 2026 at 11:04am *This Topic was moved here from Fringe* by freediver.**
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