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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #420 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:16pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:41pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:39pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 4:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 4:37pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

July 5, 2024 -

Senator Payman said she went to the Afghanistan embassy in October 2021, where she was told her request for renunciation could not be completed.

“The embassy advised me that there is no communication between it and the new Taliban government in Afghanistan. As such, the embassy told me that my application for renunciation could not (be) finalised in Kabul (as required under pre-Taliban Afghan law),” she wrote.
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/senior-labor-figures-reportedly-hold-c...

So what other "reasonable steps" should she have taken, that she didn't, that would put her foul of the act?

That was the question put to you after all.

What you've listed exonerates her from Hanson's claims. She followed the letter of the law.

Not run/ resign until she is sure that she is no longer an Afghan citizen.
She KNEW her citizenship status has not been resolved. That means her citizenship has not been revoked.

Play by the rules. Not rat on her party. Act honourable, honestly.

She fulfilled her obligation to take all reasonable steps, as required by law.

Moreover, she adhered to the legal framework, and you’ve failed to provide any substantive evidence of alternative actions she could have taken to resolve her dual citizenship status more effectively.

Hanson has also failed to demonstrate what could have been done differently.

Better luck next time, your argument falls flat yet again.

Senator Payman said she went to the Afghanistan embassy in October 2021, where she was told her request for renunciation could not be completed.

You would not tolerate this from a white British member of parliament, Sad sack of ridiculousness.

The Taliban are in Government in the UK now, preventing people from renouncing their citizenship?

I had no idea...!

They are the government in Afghanistan of which Payman is still a citizen.

I know you are an idiot, do not need to remind me of it with your every idiotic, po-faced stupid question.

Sad.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #421 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:54pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

They are the government in Afghanistan of which Payman is still a citizen.

I know you are an idiot, do not need to remind me of it with your every idiotic, po-faced stupid question.

Sad.

Right, so what other reasonable steps can she take with that regime to renounce her citizenship?

What hasn't she done that puts her foul of the law?

The last time I asked you, you replied with some hypothetical about a British MP, hence my answer.

Play stupid games...

Do you want to try answering the question this time?

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #422 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 12:20am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:54pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:16pm:

They are the government in Afghanistan of which Payman is still a citizen.

I know you are an idiot, do not need to remind me of it with your every idiotic, po-faced stupid question.

Sad.

Right, so what other reasonable steps can she take with that regime to renounce her citizenship?

What hasn't she done that puts her foul of the law?

The last time I asked you, you replied with some hypothetical about a British MP, hence my answer.

Play stupid games...

Do you want to try answering the question this time?

The Taliban selected Kimia Yousofi to carry the Afghan flag in Paris Olympics despite the fact Kimia lives in Australia

What is Fatimas excuse?

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #424 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:13am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:36pm:

So nobody can answer the question of what other reasonable steps she could have taken?

Told you already.

Not run/ resign until she is sure that she is no longer an Afghan citizen.
She KNEW her citizenship status has not been resolved. That means her citizenship has not been revoked.

Play by the rules. Not rat on her party. Act honourable, honestly.

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Reply #425 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
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Reply #426 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:32pm

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
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Reply #427 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
Peter Smith

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you really like to forecast the worst outcome always. Such a shame that people don't co-operate with your forecasts. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Fatti Payman does:

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.

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Reply #428 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:34pm

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
Peter Smith

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you really like to forecast the worst outcome always. Such a shame that people don't co-operate with your forecasts. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Fatti Payman does:

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.

So much for Muslims being equal citizens, hey, Soren? They are full citizens and full citizens are all given the same rights under Australian law. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #429 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
Peter Smith

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you really like to forecast the worst outcome always. Such a shame that people don't co-operate with your forecasts. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Fatti Payman does:

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.

So much for Muslims being equal citizens, hey, Soren? They are full citizens and full citizens are all given the same rights under Australian law. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes, they can rat on the political party that has given them a leg-up, believing what you just said, only to be duped, like you.

"Islamophobia” operates as a semantic signifier deterring all criticism of Islam and foreclosing debate. The combination of Islamophobia and the omnipresent threat of violence means that it has become impossible to organise a conference or even a debate on political Islam and freedom of expression in Australia."

Bbwiyawn, you are a living(?), daily reminder of this truth.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #430 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:44pm

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2024 at 1:44pm:

The alliance between atheists of the left and Muslims has severe limitations.

Which side would prevail if the worst happened and Western civilisation collapsed? That is easy. One side, full of fealty, focus and fervour, is led by firebrand preachers marching under Allah’s banner. The other a motley mixture of Marxist academics, grifters, romantics and airheads. There would be only one winner. Islam would take over. Michel Houellebecq has it right in Submission.

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.
Peter Smith

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you really like to forecast the worst outcome always. Such a shame that people don't co-operate with your forecasts. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Fatti Payman does:

With growing Muslim populations, left-wing politics is now simply a bridge to political Islam and to all of the horrors that would bring.

So much for Muslims being equal citizens, hey, Soren? They are full citizens and full citizens are all given the same rights under Australian law. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes, they can rat on the political party that has given them a leg-up, believing what you just said, only to be duped, like you.

That is their choice to make, Soren. Unlike you, I believe in free will. Muslims are full citizens and are allowed to choose who they like. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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