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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #30 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:22pm:

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:57am:

well maybe the general impression you glean is because i'm just a lot more persuasive and have better arguments than people like you or LTYC which is why less people are trying to 'discourage' me than you would like

maybe the people here who disagree with me can try not being stupid instead of making arguments that amount to "you deserve to be kicked in the balls"

What, so you can drone endlessly on about immigration even in a thread about AGW?

Seriously ... how relevant do you think you are?

it's a completely relevant question to AGW? that's why i brought it up. population and where it is distributed is central to the discussion of AGW. old school environmentalists including bob brown used to talk about this all the time. i'm sorry if you're just too stupid to make the obvious connection between carbon emissions, the number of people on the planet, and most germanely where those people are located. it gets tedious having to hand-hold you through every single discussion like this.

it was LTYC who tried to make some irrelevant point about abos and turn the discussion into that

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #31 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:51pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:22pm:

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:57am:

well maybe the general impression you glean is because i'm just a lot more persuasive and have better arguments than people like you or LTYC which is why less people are trying to 'discourage' me than you would like

maybe the people here who disagree with me can try not being stupid instead of making arguments that amount to "you deserve to be kicked in the balls"

What, so you can drone endlessly on about immigration even in a thread about AGW?

Seriously ... how relevant do you think you are?

it's a completely relevant question to AGW? that's why i brought it up. population and where it is distributed is central to the discussion of AGW. old school environmentalists including bob brown used to talk about this all the time. i'm sorry if you're just too stupid to make the obvious connection between carbon emissions, the number of people on the planet, and most germanely where those people are located. it gets tedious having to hand-hold you through every single discussion like this.

it was LTYC who tried to make some irrelevant point about abos and turn the discussion into that

Perhaps mothra is upset that you aren't discussing her gender.

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #33 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:26pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

i'm sorry if you're just too stupid to make the obvious connection between carbon emissions, the number of people on the planet, and most germanely where those people are located.

"Highlights

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Human CH4 emission dominantly depends on age, sex and ethnicity.
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Prediction of global CH4 emission for the year 2100 is 1221 ± 672 Gg.
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Future CH4 emission by humans might be in the range of present permafrost soils.
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Future factor-weighted estimation of human CH4 emission exceeds unweighted estimation."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1352231019304522

But apparently it is only animals we should cull. Wink

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #35 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:00pm

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

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But apparently it is only animals we should cull.

Who told you we would be culling anything? The coalition?

You know they have to kill the cow to make a steak, right?

are you saying asking every , almost broke farmer , to pay heaps of cash per cow , will result in them having loads more?? Roll Eyes

now you are channelling joe biden

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 15338 Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #36 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:30pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:12am: to get back to market mechanisms... A bad move, the world with 8 billion and growing, making growing demands on earth's resources, has to relegate market mechanisms to a subordinate roll...or perish.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20958 Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #37 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:55pm freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm: Who told you we would be culling anything? If you want to reduce methane, so the story goes, you need to reduce ruminants. There is only so much steak you can eat. And a lot is not good enough for the urban elite. That is why it is also exported live.
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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #38 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 4:21pm

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

i'm sorry if you're just too stupid to make the obvious connection between carbon emissions, the number of people on the planet, and most germanely where those people are located.

"Highlights

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Human CH4 emission dominantly depends on age, sex and ethnicity.
•

Prediction of global CH4 emission for the year 2100 is 1221 ± 672 Gg.
•

Future CH4 emission by humans might be in the range of present permafrost soils.
•

Future factor-weighted estimation of human CH4 emission exceeds unweighted estimation."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1352231019304522

But apparently it is only animals we should cull. Wink

what?

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #39 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:05am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

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But apparently it is only animals we should cull.

Who told you we would be culling anything? The coalition?

You know they have to kill the cow to make a steak, right?

are you saying asking every , almost broke farmer , to pay heaps of cash per cow , will result in them having loads more?? Roll Eyes

now you are channelling joe biden

No. I am saying you lack common sense. And you lie habitually. In other words, you are a coalition supporter.

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #40 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:09am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:39am:

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:37am:

how about getting rid of immigration? ...

If that had been implemented since 1788 Australia would be an unspoiled land.

Dream on you terrorist supporting POS.

It would not have remained in isolation and you know it.

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Reply #41 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Who told you we would be culling anything?

If you want to reduce methane, so the story goes, you need to reduce ruminants.

There is only so much steak you can eat. And a lot is not good enough for the urban elite. That is why it is also exported live. Roll Eyes

If you took out the domestic ruminant herds of sheep and cattle ....

and the great migratory herds that man hunted for food were returned ....

you would have the same problem ..

because they were & those that remain are all ruminants.

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #42 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:32am

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Who told you we would be culling anything?

If you want to reduce methane, so the story goes, you need to reduce ruminants.

There is only so much steak you can eat. And a lot is not good enough for the urban elite. That is why it is also exported live. Roll Eyes

If you took out the domestic ruminant herds of sheep and cattle ....

and the great migratory herds that man hunted for food were returned ....

you would have the same problem ..

because they were & those that remain are all ruminants.

What great migratory herds were there in Australia?

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #43 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Who told you we would be culling anything?

If you want to reduce methane, so the story goes, you need to reduce ruminants.

There is only so much steak you can eat. And a lot is not good enough for the urban elite. That is why it is also exported live. Roll Eyes

If you took out the domestic ruminant herds of sheep and cattle ....

and the great migratory herds that man hunted for food were returned ....

you would have the same problem ..

because they were & those that remain are all ruminants.

What great migratory herds were there in Australia?

Ahhh so green house gases and AGW isn't a global problem ... just Australia specific because there were no migratory ruminant herds here.

It has nothing to do with the global herd(cattle,sheep) that all you fear mongering AGW alarmists claim are farting the world into extinction?? Roll Eyes

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #44 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:04pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Who told you we would be culling anything?

If you want to reduce methane, so the story goes, you need to reduce ruminants.

There is only so much steak you can eat. And a lot is not good enough for the urban elite. That is why it is also exported live. Roll Eyes

If you took out the domestic ruminant herds of sheep and cattle ....

and the great migratory herds that man hunted for food were returned ....

you would have the same problem ..

because they were & those that remain are all ruminants.

What great migratory herds were there in Australia?

Ahhh so green house gases and AGW isn't a global problem ... just Australia specific because there were no migratory ruminant herds here.

It has nothing to do with the global herd(cattle,sheep) that all you fear mongering AGW alarmists claim are farting the world into extinction?? Roll Eyes

What great herds were there in Europe?

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