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the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Jun 29^th, 2024 at 8:41am

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Economist have issued a statement of consensus on climate change. It has been signed by 2000 economists, including six Nobel Laureates. As well as acknowledging the reality of climate change, they also point out the most effective way of addressing the problem:

Economics studies have found that there are many potential policies to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions for which the total benefits outweigh the total costs. For the United States in particular, sound economic analysis shows that there are policy options that would slow climate change without harming American living standards, and these measures may in fact improve U.S. productivity in the longer run.

The United States and other nations can most efficiently implement their climate policies through market mechanisms, such as carbon taxes or the auction of emissions permits. The revenues generated from such policies can effectively be used to reduce the deficit or to lower existing taxes.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36389 Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #1 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 8:50am These were discussions for 30 years ago. Humans are ridiculous.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #2 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:02am It's from 1997. I published it here in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economists%27_Statement_on_Climate_Change
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Reply #3 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:05am

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:02am:

It's from 1997. I published it here in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economists%27_Statement_on_Climate_Change

And look where we are now.

And you have Booby as the moderator for Environment, a climate change denialist.

Do you feel any impetus at all to support informed and earnest discussion on this topic?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #4 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am Are you thinking re-education camps?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36389 Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #5 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am: Are you thinking re-education camps? No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty. I see why this confuses you.
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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #6 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:19am

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:05am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:02am:

It's from 1997. I published it here in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economists%27_Statement_on_Climate_Change

And look where we are now.

And you have Bobby as the moderator for Environment, a climate change denialist.

Do you feel any impetus at all to support informed and earnest discussion on this topic?

No I'm not but you are a climate change alarmist.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #7 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:22am mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am: freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am: Are you thinking re-education camps? No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty. I see why this confuses you. Have you tried insulting everyone?
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Reply #8 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:26am

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am:

Are you thinking re-education camps?

No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty.

I see why this confuses you.

Have you tried insulting everyone?

I'm sorry Fleadriver, do you require flattery to be inspired to do the right thing?

Let me know. I've been trained to placate the male ego, as most women have. I just tend not to bother, it doesn't serve me.

But it seems to really matter to you. Have you thought about why you need random women on the internet to placate you?

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5517 Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #9 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:37am how about getting rid of immigration? would cost zero, if we had done it 20 years ago there'd be a whole metric f_cktonne fewer people in rich, high per capita carbon polluter countries today.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions Reply #10 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:39am JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:37am: how about getting rid of immigration? ... If that had been implemented since 1788 Australia would be an unspoiled land.
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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #11 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:50am

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:26am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am:

Are you thinking re-education camps?

No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty.

I see why this confuses you.

Have you tried insulting everyone?

I'm sorry Fleadriver, do you require flattery to be inspired to do the right thing?

Let me know. I've been trained to placate the male ego, as most women have. I just tend not to bother, it doesn't serve me.

But it seems to really matter to you. Have you thought about why you need random women on the internet to placate you?

You seem crankier than usual today Mothra. Are you OK?

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #12 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:06am

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:26am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am:

Are you thinking re-education camps?

No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty.

I see why this confuses you.

Have you tried insulting everyone?

I'm sorry Fleadriver, do you require flattery to be inspired to do the right thing?

Let me know. I've been trained to placate the male ego, as most women have. I just tend not to bother, it doesn't serve me.

But it seems to really matter to you. Have you thought about why you need random women on the internet to placate you?

You seem crankier than usual today Mothra. Are you OK?

not crankier then usual.
just vibes with negativity

i had an aunt like that
the family took her on a great trip to hawaii (we were going to hike the napali coast.

she had a great trip, she got to complain about the airline food, she got to complain about the cab driver, she got to complain about the room.

thats why you dont need to ask a whinger if they are ok

whinging is what feeds their soul
insulting people is their energy source

they look at the world and "find what they vibe with .....pain and unfocused discontent"

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #13 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:12am

to get back to market mechanisms

who benefits?
follow the cash

who are the grifters in the climate industry?

i dare say they are the same grifters as in the food industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the homelessness industry, the aboriginal industry, the NDIS industry.

they are people who see a pile of cash and then back rationalise why they are doing it to save the planet and not to line their pockets.

humans are the biggest back rationalising species ever created.

they (the virtuous grifters) are so self deluded, they dont even know they are doing it Grin

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Re: the cheapest way to reduce GHG emissions
Reply #14 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:14am

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:26am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:14am:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:10am:

Are you thinking re-education camps?

No Fleadriver. I'm thinking honesty.

I see why this confuses you.

Have you tried insulting everyone?

I'm sorry Fleadriver, do you require flattery to be inspired to do the right thing?

Let me know. I've been trained to placate the male ego, as most women have. I just tend not to bother, it doesn't serve me.

But it seems to really matter to you. Have you thought about why you need random women on the internet to placate you?

You seem crankier than usual today Mothra. Are you OK?

Any other gendered stereotype you want to try to deflect to me with? Quite frankly, at this point i'm just impressed you haven't brought up PMT or rape.

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