JC Denton wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:54pm:



Russia has a lot of Ukrainians aligning themselves with Russia.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 10:52pm:


that's a really weird way of writing 'ethnic russians'

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:


Actually I don't mind if you vote in democratic elections provided you (ie, we) can actually "make change happen" - as per Starmer's latest piece of bs to the long-suffering and disillusioned  British electorate, many of whom won't even bother to vote....while Macron is saying there will be a civil war in France unless everyone votes for his party....

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Not a long leap: there is a global economy (trade, finance) as well as a national economy; the former needs to be functional to enable the latter to be functional  without needing border guards to shoot or turn desperate people away. 

The immigration/refugee problem is THE reason why RW populist parties are ascendent, especially in the EU which has extensive land borders (and short sea distances) for people fleeing war and poverty.

All part of "Western values": every man - and nation - for himself...aka "freedom".

Yeah - one of the Western values thrown out so far is 'equal treatment for all..... equally' ..... so when it comes to Judgement Day for the likes of LTYC there is the same standard of proof as ... say ..... Deuce (you know) .... guilty as not charged, never convicted but guilty anyway.... piggy eyes... no need to waste time on 'due process' or looking at 'evidence' (that Western myth) - move straight to the assumption of guilt ....

A lot easier that way..... the gates of Gondwanamo Bay yawn wide for that kind... better still.. let's just fling all the Western values into the sewer and make everyone guilty of something, put them in the labour camps, and see if any can prove their innocence while toiling away on a bowl of soup and a slice of bread a day ...... easiest way to go about things....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 5:24pm:


See how blind ideology blinds you? (Of course you can't...)

I'm complaining about democratic elections because they CAN'T and don't create change to enable everyone to participate above poverty level. 

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Few dictators and despots have achieved good outcomes, but one-party states like  Vietnam  and more spectacularly China are achieving rapidly inproving  outcomes for their citizens, in contrast to falling living standards for many in the democracies.

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(sigh...your blindness noted above)

It was Starmer in the UK trying to convince a sceptical UK electorate he "can make change happen". 

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The mass of individuals cancel one another out in a blind, L-R, adversarial-party contest,  which is why change for most people  doesn't  happen in democracies.

Successful "democracies" are likely to have displayed  strong authoritarian leaders, eg Singapore.

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Your error already exposed above: the mass of voters are divided roughly 50-50, eg, currently 51/49 Labor/LNP in Oz.

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Explained above; if everyone accepts the  dysfunctional global financiual system - a sad reality - then even a larger majority than a 'majority of 1' to the winning party can't change anything. Albo's been in power for 2 years and housing and  hospitals are still going backwards, (and the gap isn't closing), same as under Morrison.   

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SK is also deluded by the present system which entails private financiers fundind the public sector (governement)  via "taxpayer money"  and the private sector,  with interest bearing debt-money.

Resulting in democracy maintaing warfare between rich and poor taxpayers.

("Lawfare" is often based in cultural sovereignty bs).

Hope this helps...

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 7:11pm:


Now that we've got you by the balls here - which precisely of these 'values' you discuss are peculiarly Western and which peculiarly Chinese or Vietnamese? Which specific business principles, for instance, or social principles, do you think apply only to one or the other of these 'sides' you see here?

Are the 'values' of the Chinese hierarchy any different from the West?  HOW?

Are the 'values' of Vietnamese hierachy any different again, same-same?  HOW?

Ha, ha - all have same 'business' mode.... ha, ha - you onry measure by what you consider 'success'... all have same-same social mode .... top dog deserving what can get... ha, ha... many at bottom eat fried snake ..... if can catch cobra in rice paddy...

Remember discussion with Indian eye-checker?  She say "Aborigines badly treated in past!" ... then say - "System here great - get what you can get from it is the way!" ..... so ...

... all right for New Australian Indian to get cream from Australia using 'system' ...... that's the way it is, right?   But any past getting cream of future dream for family etc with Aborigines lagging behind no good?  Good for modern day Indian import - not good for past day English etc import......

THAT is how these people in schools are taught here these days..... to be stupid is as stupid does... I think she began to realise what she was saying.... she went quiet...  OOPS ....

I can come here, study, 'invest' in property portfolio etc excluding and over the top of others etc to get what I want - that is the 'system' here ...... all well and good..... in the past an Anglo (etc) coming here and hacking a 'property portfolio' of a homestead out of the wilderness over the top of the local itinerant inhabitants was no good... even though it created the situation I can now enjoy to the max in my cunning Furrun way where all family know value of money and work under Patriarchy and gain massively over what they could ever do 'back home' where - apparently - things are more 'civilised' than being here in a colony torn from the Aborigines....

Bizarre thinking... truly bizarre...

When will Australia wake up?   

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 9:01pm:


In his ideology every individual must be a vassal of the state... the state knows best and the betters in the state management know best of all - you see a lot of that with modern Labor ... including in their appointed flunkies in departments and such... it's the absolute form of anti-socialism - neo-Feudalism at its very best - and they are so blind they cannot see it through their piles of dollar bills - like the 'governor-general' who's finally made it through the time-honoured back passage of upholding the party line etc until slotted into a prime earner with lifetime benefits...

By jingo - most of us have been in the wrong business  - or are too honest with ourselves.... or are not just naturally abysmally stupid....

Now you listen to me you rotten little freeholder on Fraser ... you'll take what we give you and you'll like it!!  Or see how you go taking this department on!!!  WE have the power and your money to back it up!!

An unjust law, or regulation or policy - is no law or regulation or policy at all........ bring on the lynching ropes!!

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2024 at 8:46pm:


In your dreams....

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Intelligent questions always welcome:

Western values are based on the  "freedom" of the individual; one-party Marxist states are based on the wellbeing of the collective, ie, all individuals in the collective, regardless of differing capacity to compete: "from each according to his ability".

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Described above. Of course every nation is differnet so different outcomes are to be expected, but still  engendering common prosperity.

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You tripped-up again: 'business mode' is determined by government, success is above-poverty particpation for all (you can still be very rich if you play your cards right - hopefully in a way beneficial to the nation).

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Yes, blind attachment to cultural, racial, and other identities, is responsible for much idiotic teaching in schools - including your "absolute national sovereignty" bs which is destroying the world.

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No it's not "well and good": one in 6 kids are living in poverty and housing and cost of living for many is in a state of crisis.

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Not while your conception  of 'personal responsibility' is evident, and the system pits self-interested taxpayers against self-interested taxpayers, resulting in government 'austerity' (as all taxpayers want to pay less tax).