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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Western values hypocrisy never been more blatant Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry. That is Western values. Four legs good two legs bad.
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Reply #2 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:28am

JC Denton wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 6:31am:

you spam these rubbish schizo threads like there's no tomorrow but no one cares, it's like you're just yelling into the void, an audienceless screecher

please could you stop posting them

Regretfully, I must decline because that would threaten JC Denton's existence as the most prolific reader and responder.

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Reply #3 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:44am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

That is Western values.

Four legs good two legs bad.

Western values are largely fraudulent, eg, the "fundamental right" to vote in democratic elections, while the abiity of either party to stop the decline in living standards is non-existant, and the rich are laughing all the way to the bank as always.

Hence total disillusionment in the current French and UK elections; in the UK a young protestor asked Starmer why aren't you supporting us in climate change and housing, and he said "we don't won't to be a party of protest, we want to be a party in power".

The implication being he has to pander to the City of London financial goons who demand "balanced government budgets and low taxes" to gain power, rendering him unable to properly fund public needs.

Hence no change. Useless.

Easier to demonize desperate refugees than fix the economy.

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Re: Western values hypocrisy never been more blatant
Reply #4 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:05pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

Probably because the Ukrainians are fighting for their survival, whilst non-white refugees are running away from their problems. And often the Ukrainians are fleeing to nearby European countries. Poland mostly, if the Ukrainians are fleeing Russia. And Russia is getting Ukrainian refugees if the Ukrainians are siding with Russia.

https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine

So, where are those African refugees going? Of the 31 million Africans living outside of their home countries, 25% of them are fleeing to Europe. Good on the 75% that are sticking close to their home countries in Europe. But the remainder 25% getting on boats and crossing the Mediterranean Sea is a bit too far to flee for the sake of refugee status.

https://www.un.org/en/academic-impact/migration-dynamics-refugees-and-internally...

A lot of respect for the Syrians. They are fleeing to nearby neighbouring countries.

https://www.unrefugees.org/news/syria-refugee-crisis-explained/#:~:text=Syrian%2...

Western values include fighting your own battles and fixing up your own problems.

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Reply #5 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:20pm

Ukrainians are not fighting for their survival, they are running out of the country for a better life.

The Ukraine war is not a fight for people's survival it is a fight for the political dominance of Ukraine by Russia and the USA.

Syrians are staying regionally local because EU is hostile to Syrian refugees.

If "Western values include fighting your own battles and fixing up your own problems', why is the EU and USA helping Israel commit mass murder and genocide?

Israel would not exist without continuous US support and the $300 billion USA has gifted Israel since 1948. All that money was seized by Jews. None went to Christians, Muslims, Palestinians, Bedouins, and other minorities.

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Reply #6 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:48pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Ukrainians are not fighting for their survival, they are running out of the country for a better life.

The Ukraine war is not a fight for people's survival it is a fight for the political dominance of Ukraine by Russia and the USA.

Syrians are staying regionally local because EU is hostile to Syrian refugees.

If "Western values include fighting your own battles and fixing up your own problems', why is the EU and USA helping Israel commit mass murder and genocide?

Israel would not exist without continuous US support and the $300 billion USA has gifted Israel since 1948. All that money was seized by Jews. None went to Christians, Muslims, Palestinians, Bedouins, and other minorities.

Good post.

And Unsub thinks it's "Western values" to fight WW3 because of ideological differences between Chinese living in Taiwan and Chinese living in the mainland, which is HALF the distance between Tasmania and the Oz mainland.

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Reply #7 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:39pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

That is Western values.

Four legs good two legs bad.

Ukraine is NEXT TO white European countries. Most Ukrainian reffos are in Poland.
They are not flying half way across the world to gatecrash countries that don't want them

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Reply #8 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 7:16pm

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

That is Western values.

Four legs good two legs bad.

Ukraine is NEXT TO white European countries. Most Ukrainian reffos are in Poland.
They are not flying half way across the world to gatecrash countries that don't want them

... and, they are not non-white, and they are not Muslim.

Frank, just confess your bigotry, racism, and Islamophobia.

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Re: Western values hypocrisy never been more blatant
Reply #9 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 9:56pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 7:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 2:39pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

That is Western values.

Four legs good two legs bad.

Ukraine is NEXT TO white European countries. Most Ukrainian reffos are in Poland.
They are not flying half way across the world to gatecrash countries that don't want them

... and, they are not non-white, and they are not Muslim.

Frank, just confess your bigotry, racism, and Islamophobia.

This is why nobody takes you seriously, tinted chappies. You have a bone through your noses and accuse everyone who notices it of wacism.

Catch up. Get civilised. Then we can talk.

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Reply #10 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:48pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 1:20pm:

Ukrainians are not fighting for their survival, they are running out of the country for a better life.

The Ukraine war is not a fight for people's survival it is a fight for the political dominance of Ukraine by Russia and the USA.

Syrians are staying regionally local because EU is hostile to Syrian refugees.

If "Western values include fighting your own battles and fixing up your own problems', why is the EU and USA helping Israel commit mass murder and genocide?

Israel would not exist without continuous US support and the $300 billion USA has gifted Israel since 1948. All that money was seized by Jews. None went to Christians, Muslims, Palestinians, Bedouins, and other minorities.

Good post.

And Unsub thinks it's "Western values" to fight WW3 because of ideological differences between Chinese living in Taiwan and Chinese living in the mainland, which is HALF the distance between Tasmania and the Oz mainland.

It was not a good post. laugh completely ignores the footage of Ukrainian civilians being shot dead by Russian soldiers. laugh also ignores the historical animosity the USA has with the Russians. There is also the issue of the power grab that the Russians are making with Ukraine's borders. If Russia is able to exert authority in the region (East Europe and Eurasia), the USA will lose out substantially. Afghanistan can be Russia's problem, now. Hence the reason why the USA withdrew abruptly from Afghanistan.

I don't believe that the USA and the European Union are helping Israel do much more than exist. You might insist that Israel is committing genocide. But, at the very least the Israelis are targeting Hamas. Oh, and Hamas might be considered enemy combatants by many. However, to you, when the Hamas insurgents get killed, all of a sudden the combatants become statistically part of the Palestinian civilians killed. Weird, huh?

Keeping Taiwan independent is key in keeping trade routes and deals open with Asia. Maintaining democracy is an important factor in Taiwan's desire to maintain independence. Democracy in China is practically non-existent. Taiwan can wait out China as China will eventually adopt democracy. But, Taiwan won't be able to fend off a military attack from China in the near future.

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Reply #11 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:42pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 7:16pm:

... and, they are not non-white, and they are not Muslim.

Frank, just confess your bigotry, racism, and Islamophobia.

laugh, are you that phukken stupid? Non-white and/or Muslim 'refugees' have been carefully planning their moves to another country for many decades. They don't pack up their things at a moment's notice. No, they wear modern clothing and have the money to get on planes and fly up to half way around the world to seek residence in Western (and American) countries because it is convenient for them.

Ukrainians are fleeing their homes at a moment's notice. Have you not seen footage of civilians getting shot by Russian soldiers? And where do they go? Neighbouring European countries.

Remember the Kosovars? They returned home after the situation in Eastern Europe was settled. But, Middle Eastern 'refugees' will watch movies about the abundance in the West. Then the scam artists pack up their stuff, and jet over to a nearby country of their destination. Then they pull the hard luck stories.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90385 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Western values hypocrisy never been more blatant Reply #12 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:44pm That's life for you.... when the Downfall comes, you will be glad to be sheltered by those Western values here... You are free to pack your bags and leave for points elsewhere whenever you wish.... shalom.
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Reply #13 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 11:44am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2024 at 9:01pm:

Ukrainian refugees are transported and coddled in Western countries while non-white refugees from more dangerous regions than Ukraine are treated as the public enemy and often drowned and denied entry.

That is Western values.

Four legs good two legs bad.

Western values are largely fraudulent, eg, the "fundamental right" to vote in democratic elections, while the abiity of either party to stop the decline in living standards is non-existant, and the rich are laughing all the way to the bank as always.

Hence total disillusionment in the current French and UK elections; in the UK a young protestor asked Starmer why aren't you supporting us in climate change and housing, and he said "we don't won't to be a party of protest, we want to be a party in power".

The implication being he has to pander to the City of London financial goons who demand "balanced government budgets and low taxes" to gain power, rendering him unable to properly fund public needs.

Hence no change. Useless.

Easier to demonize desperate refugees than fix the economy.

Hush - then would you prefer we vote in non-democratic elections? Grin

Arrrgh - a long leap from fixing the economy to demonising refugees.... nah then - are they REAL refugees .....? Just a question here.... unlike you I've studied this at uni.... my quite different views on refugees and mass immigration are well known.....

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5520 Gender:	Re: Western values hypocrisy never been more blatant Reply #14 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 8:54pm Quote: And where do they go? russia has been the biggest recipient of ukrainian refugees
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