Here's and interesting graph showing the trend in rain fall across Australia since 1960:

https://www.science.org.au/curious/policy-features/whats-happening-australias-rainfall



Most of Australia's population, and most of our agriculture (by value) is located where rainfall is trending down - the east coast from Adelaide to central QLD, and the southwest. The monsoonal (summer/tropical) rains on the other hand are increasing and often coming further south.

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 5:57am:


I'd say the graph is inaccurate.

2 years ago on an outback jaunt into the SW corner of QLD, into Sth Aust to Innamincka then back into NSW at Tibooburra, down to Broken Hill then through Menidee Lakes to Wentworth on the NSW/Vic border, back up through central NSW, to Hay, Hilston, Lake Cargelligo, Parkes, Dubbo, Gilgandra, Narrabri to Goondiwindi & home ....

the country was green and raining through most parts. Mennidee Lakes were chocka full.
The grain growing country from Hilston north to Gilgandra was in it's 3rd bumper cropping season.
Old blokes in the pub at Hilston couldn't remember so many successive bumper years.

It had been flooding through a lot of the country on our route. One route we wanted to take was closed.

We had rain with us most of the way from Gilgandra north & into QLD.

The following year contacts in Gilgandra said they'd had another wet and flooding event which was the start of another bumper year.

Last year and this year has seen a lot of rain through those areas and to the coast of NSW.

Every 2nd weekend watching the NRL games in Newcastle & Sydney it's been pissing down, like it did again last weekend.

I've recently been on an outback loop out to Morven, up to Barcaldine and back through Springsure, the coalfields, Theodore, Crackow, Eidsvold and home. Accept it is dry around Barcaldine(still plenty of grass) the country was green and lush. The cattle rolling fat.

A rain band from the far northwest is currently going through Central & SE QLD as I type.

It's raining here now - late June in winter.

Are you trying out some more Church of the Climate Change Alarmists propaganda?

Lake Eyre has been filling since February and water is still flowing into it.

https://australianairsafaris.com.au/news/lake-eyre-water-level/

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freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:08am:



They've been having good seasons for the past 4 years ..... and I've gone out west 4 times in the past 4 years.

Climate always changes. It has since the world began. It's not an occurrence that warrants catastrophic alarmism.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:20am:


Who made you King Billy? 

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 9:08am:



What are the parameters of 'climate change'? How long is weather and when does it become climate?

Obviously the weather is different each day, month, year and each locality there is a trend in all sorts of aspects of the weather - hours of sun, temsp, cloud, rain, frost, snow, wind, (water cycle) - which can be statistically aggregated to give us 'climate'.

Would a weather station's measurements change if you put it in a park originally, but a hundred years later it is surrounded by concreted car parks and streets and building? Is urbanisation a contributor to 'cimate change' in cities growing very quickly?


Forest fires 100 years didnt claim as many lives as they can now because there weren't so many 'eco-friendly' people living is mismanaged forested areas.

And so and so forth.  Climate change, net zero, rebewables, clean energy, carbon pollution - so many slogans, so many shibboleths to tell religio-political friend from foe.

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 11:43am:


What about blind indoctrination?

Gnads wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 12:16pm:


You are the one insisting that the statistics are incorrect because you noticed some rain.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:


It appears that Aquascoot has decided that horse sense is the only solution to AGW.

However, the only evidence Aquacooot has is horse sh!t.

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 4:11pm:


any evidence that the trend is going to continue?

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 4:18pm:


https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/figures/percentage-of-europe-experiencin...



heres the graph of drought conditions for europe for the last century

doesnt look like much of a "trend"

aquascoot wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

LOL!

How long do you think an El Nino lasts, idiot? The BoM resisted calling an El Nino for some time. The El Nino this time was not the typical hot–dry in eastern Australia, more a very wet El Nino that happens occasionally.

The hot water in the central Pacific from the South American post is giving way to cold surface waters—El Nino passing to La Nina.

Not a thing wrong with what the BoM reported.


Should not the Mod of Environment, joke tho he is, have responded to your crap, Scoot?

Sad presented the only decent analysis of Dutton’s nuclear “promise.” Booby didn’t!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:



what crap is that, silly billy.

the bom tells farmers 18 months ago to prepare for 3 years of low rainfall.

and 18 months in says

"scrap that, the exact oppodite is occuring "

maybe its part of a "trend"

Dear FD,
would you mind moving this to the Environment MRB?

I remain your most faithful and obedient servant

sir Bobby

Ever wonder why FD avoids your toilet of a board, TVI™?

Interesting that the catchment areas for most of the proposed Nuclear sites are in the areas experiencing the decline in rainfall.

What could possibly go wrong.

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 10:22am:




really?

i think you suffer from "imaginitis"

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 11:38am:


The Bradfield scheme is one big waste of time and resources. It won't be implemented. Better to spend billions on developing an inland river system so that the rainfall that is received out west will not pool in few locations. Make some dams and have river systems that do exist to be channeled into them. Ideally, this can be near townships.

lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:57pm:


Better farming practices.

lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:


Our farmers developed a work ethic that they have to be obsessive-compulsive about how they farm. They cannot just rely on it raining every week to keep from suffering drought conditions.

The only way our farmers would have better crop yields would be if a volcano sprouted up off the west coast of Australia and started spewing volcanic ash for a week of every year.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:



yields are ok but the price of crops (and hence the price of food for urban consumers ) is going to climb very steeply.

1 the AVERAGE age of a farmer in australia is now 60 and many are about to retire
2 the younger generation DO NOT want to work the land
3 energy prices are the main cost of input now, electricity for running irrigators is extremely expensive
4 water prices are going to go up a lot (i am currently on a licence to pump whatever i like, this is changing in the next few years to compulsory meters , which we have to pay for, and a charge per megalitre
5 fertiliser and herbicide costs have increased a lot as these are generally relient on the petro chemical industry
6  the biosecurity costs around fire ants which are being passed over to the producer are significant
7  labor is hard to secure
8  the value of the land is very high (farmers are very asset rich and cash flow poor).  as urban folk continue to bid up rural prices with a tree change, many productive farmers will cash out and the land will become non productive back yard 

aquascoot wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:55pm:


This has been going on since the industrial revolution. Food has gotten cheaper. It used to be that close to 100% of human effort was devoted to feeding ourselves. No-one is taking up farming because that number is now just a few percent and still dropping.

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 3:44pm:


garbage food has gotten cheaper.

and hence health has suffered

The University of Southern Queensland associate professor says Australian farmers are seeing steep increases in expenses.

Dr Lyons said costs had increased roughly 30-to-60 per cent in the past five years, largely due to fuel and stronger industrial relations laws.


In comparison, Dr Lyons said tinned produce was typically done very cheaply overseas in enormous quantities by large conglomerates.

He said canned food had a much longer shelf life, meaning it was easier to produce and store in bulk without worrying about spoilage.

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:36pm:






do you agree the line shows that 20 % of europe was in drought in 1900, 1910, 1920,1930,1940,1950, 1960,1970, 1980, 1990, 2000?

please explain how the trend is going up 

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 5:54pm:



not until you go and learn how to read a graph 

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 12:51pm:


I was being sarcastic there. Mind you, another 50 years of the drying trend in the southern half and it may become inevitable.

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:


It wasn't some rain dickhead

it was 4 years of rain & in some locations flooding rains in most seasons.

Menindee Lakes don't fill without substantial rain in far north QLD Gulf country flowing down into the Darling River catchment .... this has happened at least 3 years in a row .... enough to maintain the levels in Menindee Lakes for a similar time despite the irrigation demands & also allowing further releases for the Murray river system.

You & your scaremongering graphs are just BS.



Do you have a problem reading or are you just totally obseesed in you beliefs about AGW?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:


There are 2 different weather patterns that occur in the Pacific Ocean and can affect weather around the world.

El Nino brings dry & drought conditions. Droughts as you know can last for years.

El Niño years are never "occasionally wet".

La Niña brings about the wet years.

Which we've had for the past 3 to 4 years at least.

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:45am:


They might start operating on an intermittent basis with more wind and solar power production. There will be plenty of times when electricity is very cheap. This sort of thing would help reduce the need for storage.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27^th, 2024 at 1:37pm:


What a load of bollocks.

Gnads wrote on Jun 30^th, 2024 at 11:53am:


I explained the point in the OP. Most of our farmers are getting less rain than 60 years ago.

That is not from 60 years. In any case, I was not referring to a comparison of only two specific years. And I provided the source in the OP.

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 9:04am:


That's nice dear.