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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37891 Gender:	Time to build a statue of this Hero Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:01pm .
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero Reply #1 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:22pm Cook wrote that ' [New South Wales] 'so far as we know doth not produce any one thing that can become an Article in trade to invite Europeans to fix a settlement upon it’. He bought New Zealand with three penny pieces dated 1763 and some nails and raised the flag. Not in Australia.
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Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero
Reply #2 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:34pm

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

Cook wrote that ' [New South Wales] 'so far as we know doth not produce any one thing that can become an Article in trade to invite Europeans to fix a settlement upon it’.
He bought New Zealand with three penny pieces dated 1763 and some nails and raised the flag. Not in Australia.

and how was he wrong?

was there a vibrant trade in eucalyptus oil in 1770 ?

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Reply #3 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:40pm

European explorers found bugger all on the west coast of Australia. Cook found bugger all on the east coast. But he declared that there was the possibility of making a trade outpost in Australia, so that the Europeans could resupply and trade with Asia. Amazingly, it took 30 years after the First Fleet landed before Sydney was a viable outpost for such resupplies. Before then, the colony was heavily reliant on being resupplied by Britain.

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Reply #4 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:34pm:

and how was he wrong?

Before Islam took over Indonesia, the Javanese were mining gold in the Philippines. There's some evidence they were in southern Oz for gold. They had ships.
Ludovico di Varthema (1470-1517) stated that the Southern Javanese people sailed to 'far Southern lands' up to the point they arrived at an island where a day only lasted four hours long and was 'colder than in any part of the world'.
(click on pages): https://archive.org/details/travelsofludovic00vartrich/page/248/mode/2up
p 249-251.
All days are longer than 4 hours north of the Antarctic peninsula but midwinter day is 4 hours at the peninsula tip (such as James Ross island). 64 degrees S.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@6620713

'[Frederick Hasselborough] recorded seeing a wreck 'of ancient design' on [Macquarie] island'. https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/history/stations/macquarie-island...
5th paragraph.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Online Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25268 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero Reply #5 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:39pm No place in Australia has 4 hour days.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero Reply #6 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:08pm Council road works are on 4 hour days.
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Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero
Reply #7 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:42pm

chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 1:34pm:

and how was he wrong?

Before Islam took over Indonesia, the Javanese were mining gold in the Philippines. There's some evidence they were in southern Oz for gold. They had ships.
Ludovico di Varthema (1470-1517) stated that the Southern Javanese people sailed to 'far Southern lands' up to the point they arrived at an island where a day only lasted four hours long and was 'colder than in any part of the world'.
(click on pages): https://archive.org/details/travelsofludovic00vartrich/page/248/mode/2up
p 249-251.
All days are longer than 4 hours north of the Antarctic peninsula but midwinter day is 4 hours at the peninsula tip (such as James Ross island). 64 degrees S.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@6620713

'[Frederick Hasselborough] recorded seeing a wreck 'of ancient design' on [Macquarie] island'. https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/history/stations/macquarie-island...
5th paragraph.

And how exactly does that contradict Cook?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: Time to build a statue of this Hero Reply #8 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 4:45pm chimera wrote on Jun 25^th, 2024 at 3:21pm: There's some evidence they were in southern Oz for gold.
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