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Jun 20th, 2024 at 8:08pm
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13548627/mornington-peninsula-victoria-...

20th June 2024.

He committed this offence of pushing the person off the pier while he was already bailed.

He walked out of court on Tuesday without a conviction.




A seaside Australian community has been left outraged over the sentence given to a teenager who pushed an elderly woman off a pier as a prank.

The boy was 14 when he pushed the woman off Mornington Pier, in Victoria, in January along with two mates, one of whom recorded video of the incident.

The stunt could have caused the woman - who could not swim - to drown if others had not jumped in to save her.

And now there is shock in the Mornington Peninsula community after the boy, who has since turned 15, walked out of court on Tuesday without a conviction.

He was instead given a diversion order, meaning he will undergo a mandatory program including counselling and education.

Chris Crewther, the state MP for Mornington and Victorian Opposition spokesman for justice and corrections, said it amounted to no more than a 'rap on the knuckles'.

'It was pretty shocking for me and most of the Mornington community at the time, that these three young people would just push an elderly person off the pier for no reason whatsoever,' he told 3AW radio.

'I was equally shocked, with our community, that basically he only got a rap on the knuckles.'

The boy was on bail at the time of the attack, but the court heard he was remorseful for what he did.

Mr Crewther, however, is sceptical about this claim.

'He said he was remorseful in court, but then he gave the finger to people outside of the court,' the MP said.

'There's really not much justice for victims, and continued fear, and when there's no consequences they just go on to commit more crimes.'

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Reply #1 - Jun 20th, 2024 at 8:09pm
 
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Mr Crewther agreed with radio host Jacqui Felgate that the youth crime crisis in Victoria has a 'nasty element' to it.

'I think we've seen this growing more and more recently, where young people are committing crimes and bragging about their crimes on social media and elsewhere, but there seems to be little consequences for youth committing offences,' he said.

He also pointed out that Mornington Police station is operating on reduced hours.

'This has happened under the state Labor government, where they've reduced hours for multiple different police stations across Victoria,' he said.

'In particular in this case, you look at the fact that the young guy was on bail for assault, for assaulting a 35-year-old female.

'He committed this offence of pushing the person off the pier while he was already bailed.'


Mr Crewther said this showed the Labor government is 'weakening our bail laws in Victoria, particularly with respect to abolishing offences of breaching bail conditions and abolishing offences of committing an indictable offence while on bail'.

During sentencing the magistrate told the court 'it's not going to be an easy process', adding that 'you're remorseful for your behaviour, which is a positive step for you and the community'.

The teenager's father told 9News outside court: 'We're very pleased with the outcome.'

If he completes that four-month order,
the charges against the 15-year-old will be wiped from his record. 
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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2024 at 8:14pm
 
Breaching bail should be a mandatory 5 year sentence with hard labor.

No wonder we have no law and order in Melbourne.
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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2024 at 9:40pm
 

Thanks for posting this thread bobby.

Even though the story, the account that was revealed in your posts, was disgusting.

It is just disgusting.


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Reply #4 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:07am
 
Do people chant at protests about how that offender's life matters, Bobby?
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Reply #5 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:38am
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 20th, 2024 at 9:40pm:

Thanks for posting this thread bobby.

Even though the story, the account that was revealed in your posts, was disgusting.

It is just disgusting.





Maybe only the Liberals can give us law and order?
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Reply #6 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 9:39am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:07am:
Do people chant at protests about how that offender's life matters, Bobby?



We need draconian laws.

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Reply #7 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:33am
 
We have had draconian laws, capital punishment as well. Crime was worse then. Prison is school for criminals.

Two self declared christians showing malice–filled personalities. Why am I not surprised?

In some moslem countries thieves have their right hand cut off. There is still stealing there.
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Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:40am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:33am:
We have had draconian laws, capital punishment as well. Crime was worse then. Prison is school for criminals.

Two self declared christians showing malice–filled personalities. Why am I not surprised?

In some moslem countries thieves have their right hand cut off. There is still stealing there.



Monk supports soft cock magistrates.

Even though he was on bail when he pushed that old lady into the water
he walked out of the court, Scot free.
She couldn't swim and nearly drowned.    Shocked
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Reply #9 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 12:01pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:33am:
We have had draconian laws, capital punishment as well. Crime was worse then. Prison is school for criminals.

Two self declared christians showing malice–filled personalities. Why am I not surprised?

In some moslem countries thieves have their right hand cut off. There is still stealing there.



'Crime was worse then' for countless reasons - not least being the tyranny of distance.  In the 1880's the pugs couldn't cetch Ned Kelly in Gippsland environs... nowadays they'd have him in a day ..... greater opportunity for the truly criminally minded ...

Punishments had little to do with it when the nearest cop was 100 miles away by donkey .... look at the north ea st corner of Tasmania.....  Cool
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Reply #10 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 2:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:40am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:33am:
We have had draconian laws, capital punishment as well. Crime was worse then. Prison is school for criminals.

Two self declared christians showing malice–filled personalities. Why am I not surprised?

In some moslem countries thieves have their right hand cut off. There is still stealing there.



Monk supports soft cock magistrates.

Even though he was on bail when he pushed that old lady into the water
he walked out of the court, Scot free.
She couldn't swim and nearly drowned.    Shocked


So you can’t refute the substance of my claim. That would be because you are an ignorant idiot.
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Reply #11 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:19pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 12:01pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 10:33am:
We have had draconian laws, capital punishment as well. Crime was worse then. Prison is school for criminals.

Two self declared christians showing malice–filled personalities. Why am I not surprised?

In some moslem countries thieves have their right hand cut off. There is still stealing there.



'Crime was worse then' for countless reasons - not least being the tyranny of distance.  In the 1880's the pugs couldn't cetch Ned Kelly in Gippsland environs... nowadays they'd have him in a day ..... greater opportunity for the truly criminally minded ...

Punishments had little to do with it when the nearest cop was 100 miles away by donkey .... look at the north ea st corner of Tasmania.....  Cool



In the good old days they used to string criminals up for just about anything.
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Reply #12 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:23pm
 
And crime was higher and more violent than now.

Wow, the stupid ignorant troll supports my argument!
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Reply #13 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:34pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:23pm:
And crime was higher and more violent than now.

Wow, the stupid ignorant troll supports my argument!



Monk has ASPD :

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1617167598/0#0
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Reply #14 - Jun 21st, 2024 at 3:38pm
 
And the idiot troll tries to deflect.

You have shown yourself to be:

1. ignorant

2. stupid

Look at the state of the Environment board, pigs wouldn’t make such a mess. When you gonna discuss the environment, idiot?

3. a troll. Roaring 40s, tropical dog etc etc etc repeated near ad infinitum.

Truth a full defence.
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