thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:



Does it? DO you have the relevant paper? Is that to do with keeping warming below 2C (invented by an economist) or something else?

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:



And yet Labor has shown no concern about cost, which you didn't address. Don't want to say eh?

BTW - The CSIRO Nextgen report shows the cost of battery storage falling each year, even though many countries are going to be trying to purchase the same batteries, as are the EV makers of course.

You have heard of supply and demand?

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 12:37pm:

I don't.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 2:31pm:


And a decade ago they knew the true costs?

So tell us about the true costs now.

And still nothing about exactly which GHG emissions you want reduced. Cite scientific papers please. And what these GHG emissions have done, apart from some beneficial warming coming out of the LIA, of course.

It is critical that we review the whole story of ‘Climate Change’ as this is underpinning the government drive for the removal of carbon-based fuels from our society. The climate may well be changing, it may well be that there is a minor increase in global temperatures, but this has not been shown to be caused by anything that we humans have, or are doing. The science is incomplete and there are serious disagreements. Many scientists are afraid to actually speak out against the dogma of climate change for fear of losing their jobs and grants. Most politicians and their supporters in the media are ignorant and work purely on emotions and fear.

The ‘Climate Change’ fear mongers proclaim that the burning of carbon fuels, but especially coal, and oil for transport, is producing large masses of carbon dioxide which reside in the atmosphere and create a greenhouse effect, warming the planet. This hypothesis is unproven but it is very simplistic and enables proponents to generate fear amongst the unknowing public who will then accept the solutions proposed by the ‘Climate Change’ activists. In Australia there is a false suggestion that Australia, by eliminating the burning of carbon fuels, will have some effect upon worldwide atmospheric carbon dioxide. This is false as China, India, Vietnam, and Indonesia, along with other smaller nations, are still building coal-fired power stations, far in excess of the total number of coal-fired power stations in Australia. Coal-fired power stations are being built because they are generally the cheapest method of producing bulk electricity, an essential for industry and our developed lifestyle, anywhere.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/06/energy-for-the-future/

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Sure. CO2 and methane mostly. Whichever is the cheapest way to combat climate change. I think the initial efforts, such as the carbon tax from last decade, were targeted only at CO2.

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:


Do you have a point, or are you just yet again demonstrating your ability to copy and paste things you do not understand?

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Because the internet became full of morons saying things like frost this morning, therefor no global warming.

BTW, it is still global warming.

And what do you think of the coalition policy of lying to voters about their commitment to tackling climate change?