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Jun 7th, 2024 at 10:58pm
 
We have been considering a kitchen renewal for a while. It's pretty complex.
A small kitchen that works well as it is, 30 years old in good condition.
The house design is 60 years old, styles in layout have changed.

A new kitchen - about $25K. That will basically replace what is there, we would have the same 'area', same walls.
Sort of, nicer new cabinetry in same area, layout altered.

To remove a wall so dining room, kitchen and living room is one big open space, move kitchen yo where dining room is and make it bigger, put double doors out to deck - ballpark guess of $80K.
It would change the house.
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Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 5:43am
 
It's a lot of money for a small change. Have you looked into what an entirely new house would cost?
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Reply #2 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:06am
 
My Son and (now Ex) Daughter in Law bought a “Kaboodle” kitchen from Bunnings.     They took along a floor plan with exits/entry/windows marked up and measurements and bought it all off the shelf with the design that the Bunnings’ Software came up with.  May be something to consider Sprint
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Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 10:07am
 
Not sure how handy you are, but last time I redid a kitchen I used one of these

https://www.flatpaxcuttosize.com.au/

It was a pretty big kitchen, would have cost me well over $30 000 to use a cabinet maker. Flatpack cost me about $15 000, plus another couple of thousand for tiles, hardware, taps etc

Looked awesome when it was finished, even with my amateur cabinetry skills.
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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 10:15am
 
Yeah, the flatpack I used:

https://dynasty-importers.com.au/product-category/kitchen-cabinets/

$4000 + sink/plumbing/installation
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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 11:14am
 
Vic wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:06am:
My Son and (now Ex) Daughter in Law bought a “Kaboodle” kitchen from Bunnings.     They took along a floor plan with exits/entry/windows marked up and measurements and bought it all off the shelf with the design that the Bunnings’ Software came up with.  May be something to consider Sprint



The Kaboodle hinges are utter garbage and start to rust amd sag in a few years. Cheap flat packs are fine but use Blum hardware.
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Reply #6 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 11:19am
 
Better than an online flat pack is to find a cabinetry place that cuts and sprays kitchens, take your design to them and get a handyman to install. Use expansive Blum hardware because cheap stuff doesn't last.

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Reply #7 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 4:53pm
 
Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.


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Reply #8 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 5:07pm
 
Thanks all, there are some good comments there.

We have gone cool on $80K to spend on one area of our house. It'ld be really nice but we could not retrieve any of that money at a later date if need be.
Not sure if the house would be worth another $100K with an $80K upgrade on the kitchen/dining room.

I am not interested in putting an a kitchen myself.
I like to use experts who have installed 50+ kitchens before and give me a 10 year guarantee.
Their work will be better than mine.

Interestingly a kitchen shop contacted me, said they have a 50% off cabinetry for a limited time. Prob to the financial year.
Cabinetry is the big ticket item for a kitchen, so maybe get a new kitchen from them. Similar in layout to the old one. The existing layout is pretty much ideal ofr the area. Add a few 'new' ideas.
I really like the marble look laminate, very taken with it.

https://www.laminex.com.au/article/seaside-luxury-apartment-design-in-palm-beach

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Reply #9 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 6:28pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 10:58pm:
To remove a wall so dining room, kitchen and living room is one big open space, move kitchen yo where dining room is and make it bigger, put double doors out to deck - ballpark guess of $80K.
It would change the house.


Not a fan of open style kitchens cooking smells go everywhere.
In winter don't heat the kitchen food lasts longer if kitchen is cold the fridge doesn't have to work as hard.
Moving kitchen can be expensive with plumbing i wouldn't do it same with knocking down walls.
How much time do you really spend in the kitchen?

Not into flatpacks most use chipboard which doesn't last i prefer real wood even cheap pine would be better than flatpack.

I prefer stainless benchtops each to their own.


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Reply #10 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 7:03pm
 
Possible kitchen chains - get the old girl back in and shut the door....
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Reply #11 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 3:18am
 
Had a look at oven, we have a standalone electric, solid heating coils, 5 position knobs.
It looks ok, stainless steel, is never going to break, if it does, can replace a knob or element.
Sort of cooker people have in a rental.
A new ceramic cooktop is $800 ish, induction one $1300 new built in oven $1K.
Am considering keeping old stove.


Should get a new rangehood as it is built in

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Reply #12 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:44am
 
Induction is good but can mean new pans, another cost. Induction can’t simmer—just cycles on/off.

I am getting a eye-level oven and a new cooktop, whatever is efficient without costing the earth. Meantime might move the induction plate once my new workbenches are in place, a place I can make brekky: induction plate for porridge etc, coffee machine, jug, toaster, roasty toasty maker nearby.


This week will empty the built-in cupboard in the kitchen, transfer the contents of the under the counter cabinets and my pantry shelves there, ready to have all ripped out, with the kitchen bare see where mice might come in and block the holes well—an old house, bound to be some holes. In my brewshop I bought a bag of ready-mix cement to plug holes in base of brick walls—ended up stuffing steel wool in half inch gap between two horizontal timbers FOUR METRES off the ground!
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Reply #13 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 11:06am
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 4:53pm:
Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.




They now have a new silica free man made stone.
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Reply #14 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 11:13am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 5:07pm:
Thanks all, there are some good comments there.

We have gone cool on $80K to spend on one area of our house. It'ld be really nice but we could not retrieve any of that money at a later date if need be.
Not sure if the house would be worth another $100K with an $80K upgrade on the kitchen/dining room.

I am not interested in putting an a kitchen myself.
I like to use experts who have installed 50+ kitchens before and give me a 10 year guarantee.
Their work will be better than mine.

Interestingly a kitchen shop contacted me, said they have a 50% off cabinetry for a limited time. Prob to the financial year.
Cabinetry is the big ticket item for a kitchen, so maybe get a new kitchen from them. Similar in layout to the old one. The existing layout is pretty much ideal ofr the area. Add a few 'new' ideas.
I really like the marble look laminate, very taken with it.

https://www.laminex.com.au/article/seaside-luxury-apartment-design-in-palm-beach



Another thing you can do is visit kitchen showrooms,  independent cabinet makers work best, find a kitchen that is similar in size to yours, that you like,  and see if they'll give you a good price on the display model. It's still a new kitchen that's only been a shop display,  and they'll adjust it to fit perfectly into your space when they install it. 
My old man used to do this when he was renovating rentals for his clients and he'd get full kitchens for peanuts. Cabinet makers need to update their displays with the latest and selling you the old display is better then throwing it away.
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