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Re: Possible kitchen change
Reply #15 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:22am

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.

They now have a new silica free man made stone.

Oh very interesting! Must look it up and see pricing.

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Reply #16 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:27am

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 5:07pm:

Thanks all, there are some good comments there.

We have gone cool on $80K to spend on one area of our house. It'ld be really nice but we could not retrieve any of that money at a later date if need be.
Not sure if the house would be worth another $100K with an $80K upgrade on the kitchen/dining room.

I am not interested in putting an a kitchen myself.
I like to use experts who have installed 50+ kitchens before and give me a 10 year guarantee.
Their work will be better than mine.

Interestingly a kitchen shop contacted me, said they have a 50% off cabinetry for a limited time. Prob to the financial year.
Cabinetry is the big ticket item for a kitchen, so maybe get a new kitchen from them. Similar in layout to the old one. The existing layout is pretty much ideal ofr the area. Add a few 'new' ideas.
I really like the marble look laminate, very taken with it.

https://www.laminex.com.au/article/seaside-luxury-apartment-design-in-palm-beach

Another thing you can do is visit kitchen showrooms, independent cabinet makers work best, find a kitchen that is similar in size to yours, that you like, and see if they'll give you a good price on the display model. It's still a new kitchen that's only been a shop display, and they'll adjust it to fit perfectly into your space when they install it.
My old man used to do this when he was renovating rentals for his clients and he'd get full kitchens for peanuts. Cabinet makers need to update their displays with the latest and selling you the old display is better then throwing it away.

What I’ve seen as cost saver… on fb marketplace people advertise selling their whole kitchens for a few hundred dollars and many of these kitchen look good and still modern.
Usually it’s buyer to dismantle. So bring tools and trailer.

We sold our old 80s style kitchen for $600 and buyers dismantled it.
They sent me a photo when they did up their kitchen, with white painted wooden cabinet doors … looked amazing!

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Reply #17 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 6:13pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.

They now have a new silica free man made stone.

I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. Laminex benchtops I have used have been really good.
Does stone have the 'snob' appeal? ie, 'it was expensive, therefore it is good'

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Re: Possible kitchen change
Reply #18 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 6:23pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.

They now have a new silica free man made stone.

I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. Laminex benchtops I have used have been really good.
Does stone have the 'snob' appeal? ie, 'it was expensive, therefore it is good'

Maybe the natural stone, but I doubt Man made stone has any snob appeal. It's just harder wearing and less susceptible to damage from knives and hot pots.

I originally wanted to use stone on my bench tops around the room and butcher block on my island so I'd get the best of both worlds, but my minister of finances overuled me.

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 9574	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #19 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 7:21pm I saw this kitchen island bench and love it! It’s usually about $1300 but here it’s under $400 new in flat pack on fb market place as they ordered 2 by accident. Great on an open or an L shape kitchen.
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Re: Possible kitchen change
Reply #20 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 7:30pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 11:06am:

Sophia wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Four years ago I updated my kitchen through the good guys.
Not sure if they are still doing kitchens but I’m very pleased with mine.
Cost was about $26K including stove/oven, sink, laminate benches, electrician, gas fitter and plumber.
I was urged to get stone benches but I preferred laminate. Wasn’t spending another $3-4 K for cold hard stone.
Now all that kerfuffle on news in the recent year about stone dust and lung problems of workers doing stone cutting, I’m glad I refused it.

They now have a new silica free man made stone.

I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. Laminex benchtops I have used have been really good.
Does stone have the 'snob' appeal? ie, 'it was expensive, therefore it is good'

The two main stone brands are zero maintenance.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21797 Gordon Gender:	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #21 - Jun 9^th, 2024 at 7:32pm I did a flipper apartment a few months ago, found a few leftover lengths of stone on marketplace for next to nothing and designed the kitchen bench dimensions around them
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41567 Gender:	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #22 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:09pm wow, got a quote $33K !! MUCH more then we had guessed
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52841 At my desk.	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #23 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:45pm Quote: I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. What maintenance? All I do is wipe it down occasionally.
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Reply #24 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:55pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 10:58pm:

To remove a wall so dining room, kitchen and living room is one big open space, move kitchen yo where dining room is and make it bigger, put double doors out to deck - ballpark guess of $80K.
It would change the house.

Not a fan of open style kitchens cooking smells go everywhere.
In winter don't heat the kitchen food lasts longer if kitchen is cold the fridge doesn't have to work as hard.
Moving kitchen can be expensive with plumbing i wouldn't do it same with knocking down walls.
How much time do you really spend in the kitchen?

Not into flatpacks most use chipboard which doesn't last i prefer real wood even cheap pine would be better than flatpack.

I prefer stainless benchtops each to their own.

That's pretty sensible. Open plan kitchens are silly.
The cabinetry is irrelevant if it's functional and clean. Benchtops hardly matter for functionality, only aesthetically, if at all. What matters in a kitchen are the appliances and th ed equipment.
Keep it closed off from the rest of the house.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41567 Gender:	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #25 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:31pm freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:45pm: Quote: I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. What maintenance? All I do is wipe it down occasionally. I heard stone is porous so spills on it may be absorbed.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52841 At my desk.	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #26 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 9:37pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 8:31pm: freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:45pm: Quote: I dislike stone. It's cold, heavy and high maintenance. What maintenance? All I do is wipe it down occasionally. I heard stone is porous so spills on it may be absorbed. I've never seen it happen.
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Re: Possible kitchen change
Reply #27 - Jun 11^th, 2024 at 11:15pm

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 8^th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 10:58pm:

To remove a wall so dining room, kitchen and living room is one big open space, move kitchen yo where dining room is and make it bigger, put double doors out to deck - ballpark guess of $80K.
It would change the house.

Not a fan of open style kitchens cooking smells go everywhere.
In winter don't heat the kitchen food lasts longer if kitchen is cold the fridge doesn't have to work as hard.
Moving kitchen can be expensive with plumbing i wouldn't do it same with knocking down walls.
How much time do you really spend in the kitchen?

Not into flatpacks most use chipboard which doesn't last i prefer real wood even cheap pine would be better than flatpack.

I prefer stainless benchtops each to their own.

That's pretty sensible. Open plan kitchens are silly.
The cabinetry is irrelevant if it's functional and clean. Benchtops hardly matter for functionality, only aesthetically, if at all. What matters in a kitchen are the appliances and th ed equipment.
Keep it closed off from the rest of the house.

Eat in kitchens are good for casual dining you can set the table while cooking.

Cabinets should go to ceiling so you don't have to clean top of cabinet. Glass doors on wall cabinets are good so guests can see what you need when helping. Everything in cabinets to keep dust off whatever you have.

Commercial kitchens have stainless benchtops sometimes i might have to carve up a Deer carcass so easy to lay out and clean up. With waterjet cutting and TIG welding easy to customise including sinks.

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Marla Gold Member Online A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14723 Colorado Gender:	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #28 - Jun 12^th, 2024 at 8:52am Here's my remodel:
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Marla Gold Member Online A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14723 Colorado Gender:	Re: Possible kitchen change Reply #29 - Jun 12^th, 2024 at 9:01am It's "vintage" and "retro"
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