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Reply #75 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 9:57am
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

The little puke must have gotten jealous about me talking about my garden because he stole my link to Heritage Seeds. What a bloody wanker!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I doubt he has a garden with his little flat.  Undecided
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Reply #76 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 10:51am
 
A detailed description of growing tomatoes:

https://tassieseeds.com.au/shop/tomato_varieties/all-tomatoes/san-marzano-roma/

Probably applicable to any indeterminate tomato, like this delicious sounding cherry tomato:

https://www.happyvalleyseeds.com.au/products/tomato-black-cherry

A modern not an heirloom variety—call it modern heirloom:
https://tassieseeds.com.au/shop/vegetable-seeds/tomatoes/blue-cream-berries/

Look different:
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Reply #77 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 12:25pm
 
What is the 'attraction' to heirloom tomatoes?
A friend has one to give me soon.

I like romas.
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Reply #78 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 12:30pm
 
Heirlooms ae tomatoes that have stood the test of time. They are open pollinated—you can save seed and plant them and the same tomato will grow from the seed. They tend to taste better and last longer when picked than hybrids which are crosses to make the seed seller more money.
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Reply #79 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 12:36pm
 
I have like 400 San Marzano tomato seeds and intend to plant them all. Probably discard the weakest 10%.

Thinking of using two tall stakes per plant and maybe make cages for the Cherry Cocktail, Black Cherry, Double Rich, Blue Cream Berries and Moneymaker tomatoes.
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Reply #80 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 5:56pm
 
LOL! The little puke copied the crap about tomatoes, stolen from here, into the sewer. Idiot STILL thinks copying stuff from here is the way to make the sewer look. . .errrr. . .different from here! Yup, that is how stupid the pansy is!
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Reply #81 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 7:28am
 
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Reply #82 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:19am
 
My two Bendigo Beauty peach trees have started opening their buds!

Hope I  get a crop this summer, just a few juicy sweet tasty peaches will do ooohhhhhhh!
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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #83 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:59am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 24th, 2024 at 12:30pm:
Heirlooms ae tomatoes that have stood the test of time. They are open pollinated—you can save seed and plant them and the same tomato will grow from the seed. They tend to taste better and last longer when picked than hybrids which are crosses to make the seed seller more money.


so heirlooms are sort of a 'pure bred' of the tomatoes?

the modern ones are bred for a purpose?
I get lost of tommies coming up from the compost tumblers or by squishing a few I want under foot.
Bought some 'solanatos' to grow the seed, they are going well
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Reply #84 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 9:39am
 
My currant bushes are also breaking bud. We had a light frost here but hasn’t harmed the buds.

The Antoinette cider apple trees can’t be far from budbreak but August is WAY too early, still frosts to come! Damn this warm weather!

In later years once the trees have grown and are bearing fruit I need to  arrange shade from the afternoon sun to delay budbreak.

The Antoinette apples come from Normandy, make a fine bittersweet cider on their own and are one of the apples used to make Calvados.

Calvados, “apple brandy” but has like 40% pears go into the crush  Grin


I  have  two  Beurre Bosc pears, one is close to the Antoinette trees—the pears will stay hard, the Beurre Bosc in the favored spot on the eastern side of the house will become soft and juicy when ripe. Beurre Hardy and Beurre D'Anjou will also go on the Eastern side of the house. Fruit from the Beurre Bosc near the Antoinette trees will go into the Normandy cider crush.

Beurre Hardy
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‘Beurre Hardy’ pear flesh is yellow-white, juicy, melt-in-the-mouth and refreshing, with a fine tanginess. No wonder it is considered one of the best dessert pears in the world!

https://plantura.garden/uk/fruits/pear-varieties/beurre-hardy-pear

Pollination:
Beurre Anjou, Beurre Bosc and Doyenne du Comice will pollinate the Beurre Hardy and these are/will be on the east side of the house—no problem with pollination!

It is said to have a rosewater flavor.

Beurre Anjou:
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An excellent old pear variety still grown commercially. Melting white flesh with delicious flavour.


Pollination partners: Beurre Hardy and Packham’s triumph, both on the eastern side of the drive.

https://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/searchpolpartner.aspx?id=BEUANJ

One more pollination partner: Williams also known as Bartlett.
https://thomasfruittrees.eu/pollinationchecker.aspx?c=15273

The three Beurre trees will help pollinate the other pears on the east side of the house. Gonna be great!
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Reply #85 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 8:05am
 
YES! Looked at my pomegranate tree/bush whatever. That had lost all its leaves in the fall and I was worried it might have died.

Nope! Just where I planted ir there is cold enough it is a deciduous plant but not that much cold that it dies!

I saw LOTS of tiny bright red buds over all the branches! You beauty!

I have put bricks around it in a low wall to catch the sun and reradiate warmth at night, adding to the high brick footings of the house not far away. I also put a big dark stone within the brick enclosure.

Yum, pomegranate juice, pomegranate arils over salads/fruit salads, excess pomegranates can be turned into syrup, mead, country wine etc. Oh yeah, be great!

I will put brick walls around the pear trees in the eastern drive that are furthest (about 3metres) from the house, helping the delicious pears (Comice du jour and the Beurre pears) ripen into soft, juicy delicious fruits. Surplus pears will be preserved for year-round enjoyment and some shared with neighbors—exchange of favors is how things work in the country.

Black currant juice and the pomegranate juice can be preserved as syrups—high vitamin and fibre syrups, great over icecream, great as a drink with Sodastream™ fizzy water etc.

Time to plan the layout of the vege patch—currant bushes and the blueberries will go in there as well and make the raised beds. However, veges will be planted in the orchard for the next 2-3 years to improve that lousy clay soil. Broadbeans, tomatoes and sweetcorn will likely keep being planted in the orchard because they take up a lot of room.

Been emptying the front porch and emptying the trestle table in BR2 of all the spices and pantry items etc—that table will go into the front porch, heat mats installed and tomato etc seeds planted. Spring is nearly here!
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Reply #86 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 8:23am
 
I can likely only plant 200 tomato plants in the orchard, maybe another 200 in the nature strip, 100 plus a dozen or two cherry tomatoes in the vege patch, start working on that soil.

I recently sold* the garden shed I had had dismantled when the “ornamental” trees were cut down and some other rubbish removed so can work on that patch to make it ready for the tomatoes. Soil does need to be worked on but OH MY ACHING BACK!

Thinking of buying a 10KL rainwater tank early next year, one that can be fed from the garage and house—reserve of water for fire fighting and irrigating my trees. A decent pump is only like $300.

Will look up what parts of the house and garage roof could feed the tank and where it will be best positioned and calculate the amount of water that will be collected each year. Will have some smaller tanks for drinking water and to irrigate the trees in the eastern drive—will also act to keep the trees there a bit warmer.


* Sold by word of mouth only, not through eBay, GumTree or FB Marketplace. Sold some other stuff that way too.
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Reply #87 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 9:53am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 26th, 2024 at 8:05am:
.............  I saw LOTS of tiny bright red buds over all the branches! You beauty!

.........  Oh yeah, be great! ............

............ helping the delicious pears ripen into soft, juicy delicious fruits. Surplus pears will be preserved for year-round enjoyment and some shared with neighbors—exchange of favors is how things work in the country. .............

........... Broadbeans, tomatoes and sweetcorn will likely keep being planted in the orchard because they take up a lot of room.

......... Spring is nearly here!..........



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Reply #88 - Aug 26th, 2024 at 2:24pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 26th, 2024 at 9:53am:
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Nearly got heat stroke mowing the lawn at midday. Lesson learned.
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Reply #89 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 3:09pm
 
Always wear a broad brimmed straw hat when working during the day.

Anyway, Thursday was very light wind so I sprayed the trees that had budburst or were about too with an immune boosting spray:

Unpasteurised Neem oil* 50ml
Pure liquid soap 3ml
Charlie Carp 100ml
Dried kelp 5g
Unsulphured molasses 35ml
Effective microbes 100ml


Make up to 5L with water.

The liquid soap is to emulsify the neem oil and the molasses are to feed the essential microbes.

Note there are no systemic insecticides


* Heat neem oil to 25°C to make it thin and runny.

Fish Hydrolase is better than Charlie Carp
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