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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #105 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 3:48am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 22nd, 2024 at 3:13pm:
Phew! Dug two holes and planted my Cape Gooseberry and one of my white currants, can dig a smaller hole and plant the white currant I bought this year then the red currants.

Hard work with clay soil—and about 20cm down there is a hard clay layer. In the end I got through it by hammering a star dropper in there then moving it to break up the hard clay.

At the “top of the hill” or the bit of my land between back and side fence that is the highest bit of my land there is a layer of yellow clay. This clay when dry looks exactly like rock. I think the layer I hit where I was working today is the same layer as the one higher up but not yellow because it is covered? Still very hard tho.

Of course I forgot to put some gypsum in the holes—got plenty liquid gypsum so will add some of that to the water in the watering can so be OK.

As I lengthen the row of Ribes sp there is an element of danger: somewhere the buried power line to the garage crosses the line along which I am planting the currants ZZZttt!


You must be getting quite fit and strong.
Gardening is a very good activity
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Reply #106 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 7:44am
 
Yeah, good activity, outside. Sometimes strenuous, always satisfying.
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Reply #107 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 9:45am
 
Was going to work inside today but will change that to outside—the weather is going to deteriorate markedly from later today.
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Reply #108 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:44pm
 
Digging the hole for the second white currant, got to the yellow hard clay again.

Notice that no grass roots emerge from the body of that clay?
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Reply #109 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 2:47pm
 
Did a pH test: 5

A bit too acid so some dolomite will be bought and spread over the top of the soil, maybe worked into the soil a bit. A pH of 6–7 is ideal for currants.

Better than a pH of 8 tho, obviously—currants like a bit of acidity.

pH readings must be taken below the root zone, takes a bit of digging.
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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #110 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 4:29pm
 
From back to the front:

1. Gooseberry (it is a Ribes sp)

2. White currant x 2

3. Red currant

I have one more red currant. Think I will buy 2 more on Saturday (Harvest Farmers Market in town.)

I have one new black currant plant and one old plant.

I have one black currant Magnus:
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Ribes nigrum ‘Magnus’

‘Magnus’ is an extremely hardy, upright bush with large fruit, high in Vitamin C.

• Pollination Group: self-fertile so other pollinators not needed
• Uses: eating, cooking, preserving, freezing, juicing, cordials, jams, tarts, wines, syrups
• Harvest: December to January
• Features: great flavour: great source of vitamin C


https://www.heritagefruittrees.com.au/magnus-black-currant/

There is a large black currant variety, https://www.heritagefruittrees.com.au/goliath-black-currant/

I had bought four of this large–fruit black currant. Three are dead, RIP!

One plant has one small green leaf. Since I can no longer buy from Heritage Fruit Trees, only supplier AFAIK, I am going to try growing this one plant then strike cuttings. I will do the same with the Magnus. I do like heritage varieties.
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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #111 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 7:45am
 
All four ribes I planted are fine, so far at least. I don’t anticipate any real trouble—these are sturdy, frost hardy plants.

Had another look at the Goliath black currant plants. One definitely has sprouted leaves. Think the other three plants be OK too.'

I might grow these, expand then in a year or three be able to sell cuttings—Goliath is an old variety and has the biggest fruits of all black currant as well as superior flavor.

Going to the Harvest Farmers Market on Saturday (leaving the dog home which will make me as popular as a pork chop in a synagogue) and buy three of some more blueberry varieties. One of these is frost hardy, useful where temps on winter nights can get as low as -4°C. Then to Bunnings for a heap of gardening stuff: sheepshit, tomato stakes, very large plastic pots etc etc.
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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #112 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 7:45pm
 
Planted the old red currant plant, so now have five Ribes varities planted:

Cape gooseberry
White Currant
White Currant
Red Currant
Red Currant

Will buy two more red currant plants on Saturday and one more black currants and three of a different variety of blueberry. And a couple more rhubarb and asparagus.
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Reply #113 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 7:54pm
 
When I dug the holes for the two red currants I did not come across the layer of hard yellow clay. I suspect some footings for some old outhouse stood there at some time or something like that was done to remove that clay. Next two holes for the next two red currants I bet I will find the yellow clay again.
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Re: Some alterations to my orchard
Reply #114 - Sep 30th, 2024 at 10:05am
 
Yeehaa!!!


I took cuttings of various currants late last summer—some of these are breaking buds and, after removing one cutting from the soil seem to be developing roots!

These are all Ribes varieties—two of the gooseberry and more of the Magnus and Goliath black currants.

Here is hoping! Will move them to the eastern drive which is my frost–free “nursery” as well as place for French/Belgian pears—they grow luscious and soft there.
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Reply #115 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 9:22am
 
Bloody wallabies are eating my tulips, the tulip flowers I mean, not the leaves etc. Dammit!

Don’t want a fence, maybe a row of oleanders with lots of basil and parsley under and around the oleanders? Oleanders are fire resistant plants so would serve two purposes but blah.
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Reply #116 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 1:16pm
 
Dig a hole for the Magnus black currant—the yellow clay layer was there but it was red! Well, partly red.

Used up all the wire in the grass trimmer—no idea how to put new wire in, completely different to the way it was done with the petrol trimmer I had in George Town (where the hell is that gone, anyway?)

So to town tomorrow, get shown how to do it and what wire to use. Big relief for a klutz like me!

So the Magnus will get planted and likely the other black currant too.

Took a new cutting of the gooseberry and two from the red currant and put those in the appropriate pots.

Several of the Magnus and Goliath cuttings from early this year will make it—have to keep the water up, add some Seasol to the next lot.

Exciting—but bloody hard work tho!
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Reply #117 - Oct 1st, 2024 at 5:33pm
 
The Goliath I said had leaves lost those but there is another leaf so some hopes. Also some of the old cuttings looking OK!

Planted the Magnus black currant, might plant the “black currant” tomorrow, depends on when I get back from town.

Guy with the “big spade” came back, smoothing the soil he dug up in the fall—reckons the clay has broken down really well. Started the creation of terraces which will facilitate irrigating several rows at once—if I left the ground slopy I could only irrigate 1-2 rows at a time.

He dug out my raspberry patch to be, Thursday I will create mounds with the bought soil, add some Azalea potting mix to increase the acidity and start planting the raspberry canes.

Of to town tomorrow.
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Reply #118 - Oct 2nd, 2024 at 5:37pm
 
The guy with the little earth moving machine smoothed the soil between the trees. In the central “column” that had not been gypsumed two trenches were dug. Tomorrow or Friday I will spread gypsum and blood and bone, then cover that with a bit of soil and water it in.

Need to find some mulch, unfortunately Bunnings and sugar cane mulch will be it. Then plant seed potatoes and cover with mulch and a thin layer of soil. As the potato plants grow will fill in the trenches with mulch and compost etc—get some organic matter into that soil.

Not really that interested in a big crop, more interested in improving that soil.


Was cutting woody shoots—realised I was looking at a sloe tree—trimmed off the dead parts, see how it goes.

Tomorrow the black currant plant will be planted.

Next thing—the patch cleared by the earth moving machine will be turned into a raspberry patch, have summer and fall fruiting varieties.

Then a mound with lots cow manure be created and the rhubarb planted. Blueberries be repotted into bigger pots filled with acid azalea potting mix.

Then a number of fruit and decorative trees to be planted.

That should see the orchard finalised. Bloody better be!
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Reply #119 - Oct 2nd, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
Stop inhaling the insecticides and herbicides.
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