freediver wrote on Jun 19
th, 2025 at 3:00pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18
th, 2025 at 3:12pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 18
th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 17
th, 2025 at 10:46am:
Are you trying to say something Kanga, or can you not figure out how to put it into a sentence?
It's remarkable, isn't it?
When Israel wants to strike a specific apartment nearly 2,000 kilometres away in Iran to take out a single military figure, it can land that missile with surgical precision. Yet when it comes to Gaza, just a few kilometres from its own border, suddenly, the precision evaporates and entire city blocks are levelled. Over and over again, the excuse is that "Hamas is hiding among civilians," as though that justifies flattening neighbourhoods.
Are you claiming that in order to prove they are not deliberately targeting civilians, Israel should have brought as much destruction to Tehran in 3 days of conflict as it brought to the Gaza strip over more than half a century of conflict - with an enemy that was so close than any Muslim nutcase can, and frequently does, climb onto the roof of his parents apartment building to lob a cheap rocket over the border?
Am I missing something, or is your argument really that stupid?
I am sure Israel would be willing to level Tehran if that is what it takes to stop Iran nuking Israel.
Perhaps you should get your understanding of middle eastern conflict from a more reliable source than your gullible friends sharing idiotic memes on facebook.
An additional point: a nuclear scientist eating cornflakes in his apartment is not as timely a threat as a muslim nutcase firing rockets over the border, which also allows for more precise targeting.
Also, the Gaza strip is much smaller than Iran, so you would expect the damage from an ongoing war to be more concentrated.
And: different levels of commitment. Hamas and the Palestinian people are far more willing to die in the cause of slaughtering Jews than the Iranian leadership or the Iranian people. Therefor, Hamas keeps attacking Israel, and suffering the consequences, way past the point at which you would expect Iran to fold.
All valid points.
So it's not that civilians aren't being deliberately targeted, it's that you believe doing so is somehow justified OR, you're trying to reclassify them as combatants?
If, as you suggest, every civilian is aligned by choice, then sure, that's a neat moral framework to work within. But it's far too tidy for a situation this fraught.
The problem is far more complex. The people of Gaza are not free to leave. They are trapped, hemmed in by Israel's blockade and Egypt's complicity, across land, sea, and air.
They are effectively in an open-air prison.
And then there's the political stranglehold. There has been no election in Gaza for over 19 years. An entire generation has come of age under a government they never had the chance to vote for. People in their late teens or younger, old enough to die in airstrikes (well, that's ageless sadly), weren't even born when Hamas came into power.
So to suggest that all civilians are Hamas supporters, and are so "by choice" is not only intellectually lazy, it's dangerously dehumanising.
That framing brushes aside the lived reality of a population subjected to blockade, political repression, and generational trauma, all under the shadow of repeated military assaults and absolute external control.
Even if you've convinced yourself that some degree of collective punishment is acceptable, escalating that into "they deserve to die" is something else entirely, a moral abyss.
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