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Reply #165 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Killing, deliberately,  about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents.


Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months?


About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children.  Numbers are from the UN



So we can conclude that 9,000 Hamas fighters were hiding among their 25,000 women and children??? Despicable.




The Palestinian numbers are unreliable and unverifiable. They include deaths caused by Palestinian rockets falling within Gaza and natural and accidental deaths. Nor do they specify how many Hamas fighters have been killed since there is no clear distinction between Hamas and the rest of Gazans.


What is The Hamas strategy and aim? Why did Hamas attack Israel on 7 October and what are they still fighting for? Please explain.



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Reply #166 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 10:21am
 
I condemn the genocide by Israeli Jews and Genocide Joe Biden.
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Reply #167 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:21am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Killing, deliberately,  about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents.


Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months?


About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children.  Numbers are from the UN



So we can conclude that 9,000 Hamas fighters were hiding among their 25,000 women and children???


No.

The IDF deliberately targeted the women & children.

They weren't targeting Hamas fighters.

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Reply #168 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Killing, deliberately,  about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents.


Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months?


About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children.  Numbers are from the UN



So we can conclude that 9,000 Hamas fighters were hiding among their 25,000 women and children???


No.

The IDF deliberately targeted the women & children.

They weren't targeting Hamas fighters.



Show us the proof greggy..You have a copy if IDF standing  orders that says 'Target the children' perhaps? Or just your innate prejudice?  Roll Eyes   
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Reply #169 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 9:18am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Killing, deliberately,  about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents.


Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months?


About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children.  Numbers are from the UN



So we can conclude that 9,000 Hamas fighters were hiding among their 25,000 women and children???


No.

The IDF deliberately targeted the women & children.

They weren't targeting Hamas fighters.



Show us the proof greggy.


The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?

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Reply #170 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.
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Reply #171 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.


I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them.

Why do you support these war crimes?

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Reply #172 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.


I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them.

Why do you support these war crimes?




what war crimes?

the israeli government and military command have a duty to preserve life

the life of THEIR soldiers.

they dont owe the enemy anything except high explosives  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #173 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:37am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 10:06pm:
Killing, deliberately,  about 25000 women and children makes you worse than terrorists you dumbarse. No other terrorist organisation has ever managed to kill so many innocents.


Is that number of those killed in the last 12 months?


About 34 000 dead, almost 25k of them are women and children.  Numbers are from the UN


So, it is in the last 12 months?
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Reply #174 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:53pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
what war crimes?

the israeli government and military command have a duty to preserve life

the life of THEIR soldiers.

they dont owe the enemy anything except high explosives  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Israeli Jews are committing mass murder and genocide. The enemy of Israeli Jews are unarmed, peaceful children and women.

Israeli Jews have conducted scientific studies that children and women are the best victims because they don't shoot back.

Israeli Jews don't like fighting Hamas fighters because they shoot back.
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Reply #175 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.


I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them.

Why do you support these war crimes?


It's bollocks, turd, far from 'undeniable fact'. Civilians are not 'targeted' by the IDF.
By Hamas, yes, evidently.

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Reply #176 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:31pm
 
20,000+ dead Palestinian children and women would disagree with Frank.
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Reply #177 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.


I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them.

Why do you support these war crimes?


It's bollocks, turd, far from 'undeniable fact'. Civilians are not 'targeted' by the IDF.
By Hamas, yes, evidently.



Both Hamas and the IDF are deliberately targeting innocent civilians.

They are both terrorist organisations.

Why can't you condemn them both for their war crimes?
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Reply #178 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 1:51pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:47am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 11:30am:
The thousands of dead women & children are proof that the IDF is deliberately targeting women & children.

Why do you support these acts of terrorism?




You have nothing but your own prejudice...sad really.


I have the undeniable fact that thousands of women & children are dead as a direct result of the IDF targeting them.

Why do you support these war crimes?




what war crimes?



The IDF is deliberately targeting women (preferably pregnant), small children, and babies.

That's a war crime in anyone's language.

You are - once again - defending criminals.

'NEW YORK, Jun 13 (IPS) - A United Nations commission tasked with conducting an in-depth investigation of Israeli military actions in the occupied Palestinian territories has concluded that Israel's government is responsible for multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip, including "extermination," torture, forcible transfer, and the use of starvation as a weapon of warfare.'
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Reply #179 - Jun 18th, 2024 at 9:46am
 
As Amnesty International has noted, “significant areas within the 365sq km of territory are not residential, and conducting hostilities or launching munitions from these areas presents a lower risk of endangering Palestinian civilians”.

Yet only a trivial share of Hamas’s attacks are launched from less densely populated areas; instead, they virtually all originate in the residential parts of the major urban centres.

And Hamas has gone even further than that, deliberately choosing facilities such as schools, childcare centres and hospitals – which are typically in or adjacent to housing complexes – as shelters for weapons and combatants, launching pads for drones and rockets, and command and control centres.

In part, Hamas’s reliance on human shields reflects its deeply entrenched cult of death.  Hamas views civilian deaths not as a human tragedy but as a sign of strength. “Hamas despise those defeatist Palestinians that criticise the high number of civilian casualties,” said Abu Zuhri. “We lead our people to death … I mean, to war.”

We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials.

In dozens of messages – reviewed by The Wall Street Journal – that Sinwar has transmitted to ceasefire negotiators, Hamas compatriots outside Gaza and others, he’s shown a cold disregard for human life and made clear he believes Israel has more to lose from the war than Hamas. The messages were shared by multiple people with differing views of Sinwar.


Even without a lasting truce, Sinwar believes Netanyahu has few options other than occupying Gaza and getting bogged down fighting a Hamas-led insurgency for months or years.

It is an outcome that Sinwar foreshadowed six years ago when he first became leader in the Gaza Strip. Hamas might lose a war with Israel, but it would cause an Israeli occupation of more than two million Palestinians.

“For Netanyahu, a victory would be even worse than a defeat,” Sinwar told an Italian journalist writing in 2018 in an Israeli daily, Yedioth Ahronoth.
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