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Reply #60 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 7:40am:
Boris wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 9:09pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm:
You said:

Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim.

Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.



That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself.

But your head is up your arse.



My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

There is the cold hard statistics from the Government.

But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality.

I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget.

But you wouldn't know - fool.


So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against.

It hardly proved your point. 

But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward.

And then?

Where to from here?

Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next?

How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger?


34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


Incapable of answering the question then?


So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?
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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #61 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:21am
 
Well - they do occasionally get hungry too....
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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #62 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:23am
 
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 7:40am:
Boris wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 9:09pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm:
You said:

Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim.

Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.



That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself.

But your head is up your arse.



My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

There is the cold hard statistics from the Government.

But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality.

I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget.

But you wouldn't know - fool.


So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against.

It hardly proved your point. 

But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward.

And then?

Where to from here?

Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next?

How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger?


34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


Incapable of answering the question then?


So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?



76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ......

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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #63 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am
 
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am:
So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?


Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?
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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #64 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:25am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Well - they do occasionally get hungry too....


Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:23am:
76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ......




Now you're joking about these deaths and implying they're also cannibals.

Top bloke.

If you don't genuinely care, why bother posting?

It makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.
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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #65 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 12:25pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:25am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:21am:
Well - they do occasionally get hungry too....


Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:23am:
76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ......




Now you're joking about these deaths and implying they're also cannibals.

Top bloke.

If you don't genuinely care, why bother posting?

It makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.



Did-ums - we all notice that not once have you or methra even mentioned the true casualties.... yet you reckon you hold the high ground...

All I said was they get hungry sometimes - YOU read the rest in.... it makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.


76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements
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Re: They rape and murder babies
Reply #66 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 12:44pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am:
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am:
So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?


Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?


You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie.

I quoted from official Government statistics from Government web pages saying the rate is 600% higher for homicide and over 1,000% higher for hospitalisation die to violence.

So where are your statistics from Government web pages saying the rates of violence are the same?

Aborigines are violent and lawless and murderous people and the statistics of baby rape and child rape is abominable and in remote settlements children are raped for fun.

I was there and I actually saw it - night after night as a first responder - and you were not there


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqSKOkyczmk
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Reply #67 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:12pm
 
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 12:44pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am:
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am:
So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?


Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?


You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie.


Please, show me where I've said that, quote or link to the post, your choice.

Otherwise, stop lying.

You're manufacturing quotes you think you can argue against...
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Reply #68 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 12:44pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am:
Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am:
So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?


Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?


You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie.


Please, show me where I've said that, quote or link to the post, your choice.

Otherwise, stop lying.


You're manufacturing quotes you think you can argue against...


Here - your words fool

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:28pm:
Boris wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:52am:
This happens all the time in the NT - now - modern times.

So why are they so wonderful?


https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=h...


It is shocking, as are the conclusions you're trying so desperately to reach.

Conclusions that you as usual already formed based on your discriminatory beliefs and are on a mission to find anything to justify them.

You've also, as usual, provided no evidence and proved nothing.

The claim that Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies is not supported by credible evidence and is a harmful stereotype that perpetuates racism and discrimination.

Again, by design, that's just the kind of filth you are.

Here's what we know based on available data.

Indigenous Australians are disproportionately represented in crime statistics, but this overrepresentation is largely attributed to broader socioeconomic factors, including poverty, marginalisation, and historical injustices.

Claims specifically targeting Indigenous Australians with accusations of heinous crimes like baby rape and murder are often rooted in racist stereotypes and misinformation, like in this case.

Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim.

Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.

Fact.

The onus is on you Boris to actually prove that if you're going to make the claim.

A couple of paywalled news articles that have been shared with you via your racist circlejerk group chats aren't going to cut it.

All you've got is racist myths and misinformation that contribute to the stigmatisation and marginalisation of Indigenous communities, again which is the point.

It's almost funny in a way that the actions you take are the same that can exacerbate social problems and hinder efforts to address the root causes of crime and violence within these communities.

It's as if you actually want people raped and babies murdered, you sick f
uck
.

Your actions speak louder than your crocodile tears.

We'll see if you can provide some actual evidence, or if all of this has just been yet another cry for validation from the equally disturbed brethren you so desperately crave.

Give it a go, provide us with some evidence and perhaps show that you're not unworthy of the gift of life.


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Reply #69 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 4:34pm
 
SK

If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that.

Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous.
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Reply #70 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:06pm
 
Thanks Boris.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
SK

If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that.

Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous.


And thanks Rocky.

I've gone over all the data I was looking at and I have made an error and misinterpreted some of the statistics.

I won't edit my original post because I don't want to hide my mistake as if it never happened, but yes, that claim is incorrect.

I'd rather offer the correction than pretend it never happened.

Thanks again, the truth matters.
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Reply #71 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:35pm
 
They get hungry occasionally, too ....   Huh
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Reply #72 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:36pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:06pm:
Thanks Boris.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
SK

If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that.

Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous.


And thanks Rocky.

I've gone over all the data I was looking at and I have made an error and misinterpreted some of the statistics.

I won't edit my original post because I don't want to hide my mistake as if it never happened, but yes, that claim is incorrect.

I'd rather offer the correction than pretend it never happened.

Thanks again, the truth matters.


Well - what's the correct claim - come right out and say it, Honkey.
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Reply #73 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:02pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
They get hungry occasionally, too ....   Huh


As if there was any doubt of your intentions.
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Reply #74 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:31pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
They get hungry occasionally, too ....   Huh


As if there was any doubt of your intentions.



OH?  Define those ......   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Now don't be coy - what's the correct claim about rates of violence - come right out and say it, Honkey.  76-81 ain't a bad innings for any minority group.... but they do get hungry sometimes as well...   Cool
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