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Re: Private School Funding
Reply #45 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

they'd have the money to do it.

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Reply #46 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:31pm

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

they'd have the money to do it.

What makes you think that?

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Re: Private School Funding
Reply #47 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:39pm

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

they'd have the money to do it.

And the tradespeople?

The materials?

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Reply #48 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

Richmond River High and Trinity both remain closed after the 2022 flood they have not and will not reopen. Where did the students go? RRH students went to Lismore and Kadina high schools, the Trinity kids all went to demountables next door to SCU. Both Trinity and RRH were reasonably big schools.

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Reply #49 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 8:53pm

Setanta wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

Richmond River High and Trinity both remain closed after the 2022 flood they have not and will not reopen. Where did the students go? RRH students went to Lismore and Kadina high schools, the Trinity kids all went to demountables next door to SCU. Both Trinity and RRH were reasonably big schools.

Who needs private schools when we have demountables?

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Reply #50 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:14pm

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Setanta wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

Richmond River High and Trinity both remain closed after the 2022 flood they have not and will not reopen. Where did the students go? RRH students went to Lismore and Kadina high schools, the Trinity kids all went to demountables next door to SCU. Both Trinity and RRH were reasonably big schools.

Who needs private schools when we have demountables?

Filled with 50+ students.

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Reply #51 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:40pm

Primary schools in NSW are pretty good.
Secondary schools are an abject failure and are totally propped up by the coaching industry.

People love the say how the kids with the best ATARs in NSW come from Govt selective schools but it's a total fraud because their parents pay for coaching to a financial level rivaling private school fees.

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Reply #52 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:43pm

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:04pm:

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 3:12pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 12:27pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:34am:

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:10am:

Gordon wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

The per student cost to the Govt for a child in a private school is about 25% lower than a Govt school.

Private schools save us all money.
The 2 Steinway D-274s my daughter gets to play on aren't paid for by the taxpayer.

My point was: why should private schools get any Govt funding???

Why shouldn't they?

Because they push their own ideology-based concept of education, not an education for the collective, eg based on universal morality, justice and fairness.

Now.... why should private schools get government funding?

Because the parents pay tax at the same rate as anyone else. So they are entitled to similar education funding for their children. That they choose to pay extra on top of the government funding is their decision. You don't have to, you can send your kiddies to the state school.

What a ridiculous argument ... my taxes go towards airports and ports I don't use, ports. Why don't they build me a port near my place so I can use it? Afterall, i pay the same taxes as those who use a port in their city

You DO use airports and ports, you ridiculously thick, militant idiot.
All the goods and services you use and people who provide them to you come through them.

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Reply #53 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:59pm

Gordon wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:40pm:

Primary schools in NSW are pretty good.
Secondary schools are an abject failure and are totally propped up by the coaching industry.

People love the say how the kids with the best ATARs in NSW come from Govt selective schools but it's a total fraud because their parents pay for coaching to a financial level rivaling private school fees.

True. Selective schools are hugely rorted by Asians. Coaching colleges for Asians are huge. Selective schools are full of their products.

Two of my sons went to private schools, one to a selective school. The brown kids were pointing to him as a rarity: a smart white kid because the coaching colleges where the Asians all go are full of tinted kiddies , Monday to Friday until 9, 10 pm. So they thought white kids were less inteligent because they didnt see any at those colleges and saw only three white kids in a class of 30 in the selective school.

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Reply #54 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 10:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 4:59pm:

For those who oppose private school funding, think (hard) about FD's question:

"What do you think would happen if the government cut funding to private schools, and a bunch of students went to public schools instead, and some of the private schools had to close?"

Stiff shyte .. that's what happens in the private sector ......no?

And the govt funding that was given to those private schools could then be diverted to the public schools to cope with the extra students from the private ones that closed.

They'll just build new classrooms and toilet blocks overnight?

they'd have the money to do it.

And the tradespeople?

The materials?

See, creating employment as well. Bonus.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #55 - May 22^nd, 2024 at 10:34pm

Frank wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:43pm:

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 6:04pm:

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 3:12pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 12:27pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:34am:

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 9:10am:

Gordon wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

The per student cost to the Govt for a child in a private school is about 25% lower than a Govt school.

Private schools save us all money.
The 2 Steinway D-274s my daughter gets to play on aren't paid for by the taxpayer.

My point was: why should private schools get any Govt funding???

Why shouldn't they?

Because they push their own ideology-based concept of education, not an education for the collective, eg based on universal morality, justice and fairness.

Now.... why should private schools get government funding?

Because the parents pay tax at the same rate as anyone else. So they are entitled to similar education funding for their children. That they choose to pay extra on top of the government funding is their decision. You don't have to, you can send your kiddies to the state school.

What a ridiculous argument ... my taxes go towards airports and ports I don't use, ports. Why don't they build me a port near my place so I can use it? Afterall, i pay the same taxes as those who use a port in their city

You DO use airports and ports, you ridiculously thick, militant idiot.
All the goods and services you use and people who provide them to you come through them.

And all the doctors , nurses tradesmen etc that save your miserable arse are able to do so because they were educated in public schools. Cheesy

Cheesy

You dumbarse.

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Reply #56 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:43am

Frank wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:59pm:

Gordon wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:40pm:

Primary schools in NSW are pretty good.
Secondary schools are an abject failure and are totally propped up by the coaching industry.

People love the say how the kids with the best ATARs in NSW come from Govt selective schools but it's a total fraud because their parents pay for coaching to a financial level rivaling private school fees.

True. Selective schools are hugely rorted by Asians. Coaching colleges for Asians are huge. Selective schools are full of their products.

Two of my sons went to private schools, one to a selective school. The brown kids were pointing to him as a rarity: a smart white kid because the coaching colleges where the Asians all go are full of tinted kiddies , Monday to Friday until 9, 10 pm. So they thought white kids were less inteligent because they didnt see any at those colleges and saw only three white kids in a class of 30 in the selective school.

That's not a rort. That is the intention. If you put in the effort, you get to go. Even smart kids have to work hard.

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Reply #57 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:46am

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:43am:

Frank wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:59pm:

Gordon wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:40pm:

Primary schools in NSW are pretty good.
Secondary schools are an abject failure and are totally propped up by the coaching industry.

People love the say how the kids with the best ATARs in NSW come from Govt selective schools but it's a total fraud because their parents pay for coaching to a financial level rivaling private school fees.

True. Selective schools are hugely rorted by Asians. Coaching colleges for Asians are huge. Selective schools are full of their products.

Two of my sons went to private schools, one to a selective school. The brown kids were pointing to him as a rarity: a smart white kid because the coaching colleges where the Asians all go are full of tinted kiddies , Monday to Friday until 9, 10 pm. So they thought white kids were less inteligent because they didnt see any at those colleges and saw only three white kids in a class of 30 in the selective school.

That's not a rort. That is the intention. If you put in the effort, you get to go. Even smart kids have to work hard.

It is a rort, a distortion, a manipulation.

My daughter might not get into the top class, but at least I know she's had a childhood

Securing a spot in the prestigious program is a numbers game — and with only 1,700 places for some 11,000 applicants, the odds are stacked against them.

While the OC stream was designed to give children a classroom environment where they could excel, in recent times, it seems the classes are full of those children who have excelled at sitting a test.

It means children (or rather, their parents) are forced to up the ante, forking out exorbitant fees for tuition colleges to get exam ready.

"Parents can spend more than $20,000 a year on preparation for [opportunity class] or selective high school tests," NSW Department of Education secretary Mark Scott remarked in 2017.

And they do.

At our local tuition college, intensive coaching holiday workshops cost $100 a day or more, depending on how many hours the children attend.

If the intention of the OC and selective stream classes was to give children from disadvantaged backgrounds a boost, then that has certainly gone out of the window.

There has been much talk about overhauling the test so it could not be coached.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-19/opportunity-class-nsw-children-coaching-c...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-26/why-we-dont-need-more-selective-schools/8...

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Reply #58 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:51am

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It means children (or rather, their parents) are forced to up the ante, forking out exorbitant fees for tuition colleges to get exam ready.

No-one is forced to do anything. If your child needs tutoring, they probably aren't at the top of the class. A student who is naturally gifted will be able to get in if they make the effort.

A lot of those asian families you complain about are probably spending a fortune getting their children's English skills close to those of a native speaker.

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Reply #59 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 8:47am

My high school years were generally a learning experience about how to socialise and be educated in a balance. Knowing what I know about life in general, if I could go back and redo my high school years, I would take it a lot more seriously on the education side, and be more casual about the social side of things.

Going home and starting up the Nintendo to rescue Mario's girlfriend is what had my grades going downhill. If I did my homework for an hour of the afternoon, I would have had everything done and could well have been a B-average student at the very least with even my worst subjects.

You don't need tutors. You need discipline to value education to succeed.

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