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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2370 - May 31st, 2026 at 12:15pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:45am:
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Independent databases and monitoring groups (such as Wikipedia's conflict tracker)


That statement is an oxymoron.


No, that's just you resorting to a claim of  'fake news' to support your deplorable war mongering proclivities. 

So how many civilians have died on each side?
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Reply #2371 - May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.
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Reply #2372 - May 31st, 2026 at 12:45pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.


and you will be impaled on "oreshnik" to enhance your fantasies  Grin

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Reply #2373 - May 31st, 2026 at 1:01pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.


and you will be impaled on "oreshnik" to enhance your fantasies  Grin

[url]https://static.tildacdn.one/tild3766-3133-4633-b265-623265323436/Or
eshnik.jpg[/url]



I won't be impaled on "oresnik" (unless a nuclear war eventuates in which case you will also be vapourised): , while Putin - oh dear, how can he win the conventional war of attrition in Ukrane now, given the EU won't let Putin win in Ukraine, and Trump can't hold  two thoughts for more than a second? 
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2374 - May 31st, 2026 at 1:11pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 1:01pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.


and you will be impaled on "oreshnik" to enhance your fantasies  Grin

[url]https://static.tildacdn.one/tild3766-3133-4633-b265-623265323436/Or
eshnik.jpg[/url]



I won't be impaled on "oresnik" (unless a nuclear war eventuates in which case you will also be vapourised): , while Putin - oh dear, how can he win the conventional war of attrition in Ukrane now, given the EU won't let Putin win in Ukraine, and Trump can't hold  two thoughts for more than a second? 


They will use special perpetrator so you feel comfortable  Grin

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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2375 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 6:25pm
 
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 1:11pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 1:01pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.


and you will be impaled on "oreshnik" to enhance your fantasies  Grin

[url]https://static.tildacdn.one/tild3766-3133-4633-b265-623265323436/Or
eshnik.jpg[/url]



I won't be impaled on "oresnik" (unless a nuclear war eventuates in which case you will also be vapourised): , while Putin - oh dear, how can he win the conventional war of attrition in Ukrane now, given the EU won't let Putin win in Ukraine, and Trump can't hold  two thoughts for more than a second? 


They will use special perpetrator so you feel comfortable  Grin

[url]https://storage.united24media.com/thumbs/x/8/2a/cdf671052da170f411d
d8871793b42a8.jpg[/url] 


Putin will be in much more discomfort than me, as he realizes the US (read Trump) will side with whoever is winning:

(Dagens.com)

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A failed promise

Moscow is currently airing its frustrations over a supposed backroom deal. A top Russian official recently complained that the United States is failing to deliver on a very specific geopolitical promise.

Yuri Ushakov serves as a key advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin. He recently told Russian media that Washington has not lived up to an agreement allegedly struck during a major summit in Anchorage, Alaska.

That strategy completely collapsed. Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.

Military aid remains a major sticking point for the Kremlin. Even as Moscow attempts to bargain with Washington, Western allies continue to equip Ukrainian defense forces.


Trump the pragmatist will cause Putin's downfall even while stating he supports the Russian terms to end the war...but the Russian army has failed to conquer the Donbass, so Trump is losing interest while engaged in supporting Israel against Iran.   


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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2376 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:30pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 1st, 2026 at 6:25pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 1:11pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 1:01pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 12:19pm:
tallowood wrote on May 31st, 2026 at 11:50am:
Meantime Zelya panics and EU commissars don't know what to do.





Well - Trump's peacekeeping abilities are shown to be zero, and the EU's war-making abilities depend on the US.

And Putin will lose everything, the ultimate fool.


and you will be impaled on "oreshnik" to enhance your fantasies  Grin

[url]https://static.tildacdn.one/tild3766-3133-4633-b265-623265323436/Or
eshnik.jpg[/url]



I won't be impaled on "oresnik" (unless a nuclear war eventuates in which case you will also be vapourised): , while Putin - oh dear, how can he win the conventional war of attrition in Ukrane now, given the EU won't let Putin win in Ukraine, and Trump can't hold  two thoughts for more than a second? 


They will use special perpetrator so you feel comfortable  Grin

[url]https://storage.united24media.com/thumbs/x/8/2a/cdf671052da170f411d
d8871793b42a8.jpg[/url] 


Putin will be in much more discomfort than me, as he realizes the US (read Trump) will side with whoever is winning:

(Dagens.com)

(excerpt)

A failed promise

Moscow is currently airing its frustrations over a supposed backroom deal. A top Russian official recently complained that the United States is failing to deliver on a very specific geopolitical promise.

Yuri Ushakov serves as a key advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin. He recently told Russian media that Washington has not lived up to an agreement allegedly struck during a major summit in Anchorage, Alaska.

That strategy completely collapsed. Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.

Military aid remains a major sticking point for the Kremlin. Even as Moscow attempts to bargain with Washington, Western allies continue to equip Ukrainian defense forces.


Trump the pragmatist will cause Putin's downfall even while stating he supports the Russian terms to end the war...but the Russian army has failed to conquer the Donbass, so Trump is losing interest while engaged in supporting Israel against Iran.   


Putin reacts to your fantasy  Grin

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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2377 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:44pm
 
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Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.


That explains collapse of Konstantinovka defense with poor Ukrs found themselves in another cauldron.

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00:00:00 Introduction and overview
00:01:24 Ukrainian drone attack on school in Zaporizhzhia region
00:04:28 AI targeting errors and Western silence on civilian strikes
00:06:24 Drone attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
00:11:27 History of Ukrainian operations against the NPP
00:15:36 IAEA silence and Western media complicity
00:23:18 Escalation pattern and international law on NPP attacks
00:25:57 Hornet drones and the Mariupol to Crimea highway offensive
00:32:10 Konstantinovka collapses under Russian advance
00:37:53 Orekhov encirclement and Zaporizhzhia region crisis
00:41:17 Existential stakes if Slavyansk and Zaporizhzhia city fall
00:44:16 Oreshnik missile strike on Kiev bunkers imminent
00:50:40 Oreshnik submunition details and penetration capability
00:59:47 European diplomacy deadlock and Macron pressure
01:02:30 Russian economy resilient despite Western sanctions
01:12:52 Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Beaufort Castle capture
01:15:54 Global oil crisis and Japan turning to Russia
01:17:42 Germany political instability and closing thoughts
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Reply #2378 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:36pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:44pm:
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Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.


That explains collapse of Konstantinovka defense with poor Ukrs found themselves in another cauldron.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5209/zy77XP.jpg



Quote:
00:00:00 Introduction and overview
00:01:24 Ukrainian drone attack on school in Zaporizhzhia region
00:04:28 AI targeting errors and Western silence on civilian strikes
00:06:24 Drone attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
00:11:27 History of Ukrainian operations against the NPP
00:15:36 IAEA silence and Western media complicity
00:23:18 Escalation pattern and international law on NPP attacks
00:25:57 Hornet drones and the Mariupol to Crimea highway offensive
00:32:10 Konstantinovka collapses under Russian advance
00:37:53 Orekhov encirclement and Zaporizhzhia region crisis
00:41:17 Existential stakes if Slavyansk and Zaporizhzhia city fall
00:44:16 Oreshnik missile strike on Kiev bunkers imminent
00:50:40 Oreshnik submunition details and penetration capability
00:59:47 European diplomacy deadlock and Macron pressure
01:02:30 Russian economy resilient despite Western sanctions
01:12:52 Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Beaufort Castle capture
01:15:54 Global oil crisis and Japan turning to Russia
01:17:42 Germany political instability and closing thoughts


Note: EU "political backing" ensures Ukraine can fight to the last Ukrainian, while Trump is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.....


But how long can Russia continue to sustain its own losses, while Trump is happy to sell missiles to the EU, to keep Ukraine in the fight?

Note:  Trump at least once expressed concern for the needless loss of life (soldiers and civilians) on both sides; whereas you, like Putin, are indifferent to the lives your own people.
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Reply #2379 - Jun 5th, 2026 at 8:25am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:36pm:
tallowood wrote on Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:44pm:
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Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.


That explains collapse of Konstantinovka defense with poor Ukrs found themselves in another cauldron.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5209/zy77XP.jpg



Quote:
00:00:00 Introduction and overview
00:01:24 Ukrainian drone attack on school in Zaporizhzhia region
00:04:28 AI targeting errors and Western silence on civilian strikes
00:06:24 Drone attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
00:11:27 History of Ukrainian operations against the NPP
00:15:36 IAEA silence and Western media complicity
00:23:18 Escalation pattern and international law on NPP attacks
00:25:57 Hornet drones and the Mariupol to Crimea highway offensive
00:32:10 Konstantinovka collapses under Russian advance
00:37:53 Orekhov encirclement and Zaporizhzhia region crisis
00:41:17 Existential stakes if Slavyansk and Zaporizhzhia city fall
00:44:16 Oreshnik missile strike on Kiev bunkers imminent
00:50:40 Oreshnik submunition details and penetration capability
00:59:47 European diplomacy deadlock and Macron pressure
01:02:30 Russian economy resilient despite Western sanctions
01:12:52 Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Beaufort Castle capture
01:15:54 Global oil crisis and Japan turning to Russia
01:17:42 Germany political instability and closing thoughts


Note: EU "political backing" ensures Ukraine can fight to the last Ukrainian, while Trump is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.....


But how long can Russia continue to sustain its own losses, while Trump is happy to sell missiles to the EU, to keep Ukraine in the fight?

Note:  Trump at least once expressed concern for the needless loss of life (soldiers and civilians) on both sides; whereas you, like Putin, are indifferent to the lives your own people.


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A dying bleeding man was handcuffed because police were more concerned about a false allegation of racism.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/28/vickrum-digwa-guilty-southampton-student-henry-nowak

Your fake morality is despicable, disgusting and stupid.
Most of the world evil happens because of hypocrites like you. 


Russian Ambassador to the United Kingdom Andrey Kelin exposes hypocrisy of WOKE idiots.

 
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #2380 - Jun 5th, 2026 at 4:43pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 5th, 2026 at 8:25am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:36pm:
tallowood wrote on Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:44pm:
Quote:
Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.


That explains collapse of Konstantinovka defense with poor Ukrs found themselves in another cauldron.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5209/zy77XP.jpg



Quote:
00:00:00 Introduction and overview
00:01:24 Ukrainian drone attack on school in Zaporizhzhia region
00:04:28 AI targeting errors and Western silence on civilian strikes
00:06:24 Drone attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
00:11:27 History of Ukrainian operations against the NPP
00:15:36 IAEA silence and Western media complicity
00:23:18 Escalation pattern and international law on NPP attacks
00:25:57 Hornet drones and the Mariupol to Crimea highway offensive
00:32:10 Konstantinovka collapses under Russian advance
00:37:53 Orekhov encirclement and Zaporizhzhia region crisis
00:41:17 Existential stakes if Slavyansk and Zaporizhzhia city fall
00:44:16 Oreshnik missile strike on Kiev bunkers imminent
00:50:40 Oreshnik submunition details and penetration capability
00:59:47 European diplomacy deadlock and Macron pressure
01:02:30 Russian economy resilient despite Western sanctions
01:12:52 Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Beaufort Castle capture
01:15:54 Global oil crisis and Japan turning to Russia
01:17:42 Germany political instability and closing thoughts


Note: EU "political backing" ensures Ukraine can fight to the last Ukrainian, while Trump is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.....


But how long can Russia continue to sustain its own losses, while Trump is happy to sell missiles to the EU, to keep Ukraine in the fight?

Note:  Trump at least once expressed concern for the needless loss of life (soldiers and civilians) on both sides; whereas you, like Putin, are indifferent to the lives your own people.


Quote:
A dying bleeding man was handcuffed because police were more concerned about a false allegation of racism.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/28/vickrum-digwa-guilty-southampton-student-henry-nowak

Your fake morality is despicable, disgusting and stupid.
Most of the world evil happens because of hypocrites like you. 


Your error: I was as horrified by that incident as you.

Quote:
Russian Ambassador to the United Kingdom Andrey Kelin exposes hypocrisy of WOKE idiots.

 


Llke I said, it's too late for Russia to be talking about Woke idiots.

Indeed Zelensky's success in stopping the Russian advance in the Donbass - after 4 years of fighting, and a guarantee of ongojg EU support -  has emboldened him to write an open letter to Putin, to give Putin a chance to save himself...

Meanwhile the slaughter on both sides goes on with your deplorable support - while you profess concern for the life of a white man who was murdered by poiice after a black man attacked him with a knife - in a reversal of what usually happens; the white supremicists and racists like Farange - as well as you and me - are outraged....
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Reply #2381 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 9:32pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 5th, 2026 at 4:43pm:
tallowood wrote on Jun 5th, 2026 at 8:25am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:36pm:
tallowood wrote on Jun 2nd, 2026 at 1:44pm:
Quote:
Ukrainian leaders refused to surrender, and European nations quickly stepped in to offer massive political backing.


That explains collapse of Konstantinovka defense with poor Ukrs found themselves in another cauldron.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5209/zy77XP.jpg



Quote:
00:00:00 Introduction and overview
00:01:24 Ukrainian drone attack on school in Zaporizhzhia region
00:04:28 AI targeting errors and Western silence on civilian strikes
00:06:24 Drone attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
00:11:27 History of Ukrainian operations against the NPP
00:15:36 IAEA silence and Western media complicity
00:23:18 Escalation pattern and international law on NPP attacks
00:25:57 Hornet drones and the Mariupol to Crimea highway offensive
00:32:10 Konstantinovka collapses under Russian advance
00:37:53 Orekhov encirclement and Zaporizhzhia region crisis
00:41:17 Existential stakes if Slavyansk and Zaporizhzhia city fall
00:44:16 Oreshnik missile strike on Kiev bunkers imminent
00:50:40 Oreshnik submunition details and penetration capability
00:59:47 European diplomacy deadlock and Macron pressure
01:02:30 Russian economy resilient despite Western sanctions
01:12:52 Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Beaufort Castle capture
01:15:54 Global oil crisis and Japan turning to Russia
01:17:42 Germany political instability and closing thoughts


Note: EU "political backing" ensures Ukraine can fight to the last Ukrainian, while Trump is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.....


But how long can Russia continue to sustain its own losses, while Trump is happy to sell missiles to the EU, to keep Ukraine in the fight?

Note:  Trump at least once expressed concern for the needless loss of life (soldiers and civilians) on both sides; whereas you, like Putin, are indifferent to the lives your own people.


Quote:
A dying bleeding man was handcuffed because police were more concerned about a false allegation of racism.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/28/vickrum-digwa-guilty-southampton-student-henry-nowak

Your fake morality is despicable, disgusting and stupid.
Most of the world evil happens because of hypocrites like you. 


Your error: I was as horrified by that incident as you.

Quote:
Russian Ambassador to the United Kingdom Andrey Kelin exposes hypocrisy of WOKE idiots.

 


Llke I said, it's too late for Russia to be talking about Woke idiots.

Indeed Zelensky's success in stopping the Russian advance in the Donbass - after 4 years of fighting, and a guarantee of ongojg EU support -  has emboldened him to write an open letter to Putin, to give Putin a chance to save himself...

Meanwhile the slaughter on both sides goes on with your deplorable support - while you profess concern for the life of a white man who was murdered by poiice after a black man attacked him with a knife - in a reversal of what usually happens; the white supremicists and racists like Farange - as well as you and me - are outraged....


Your fantasy is irrelevant because it is based  based on fake news and what you say is bs for the same reason.

Now if you want make intelligent comments go to original discussion


Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with representatives of leading international news agencies during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) 2026.

The annual question-and-answer session provides a platform for Putin to discuss Russia's domestic and foreign policy, international affairs, economic developments, global security issues and key geopolitical events with journalists and media executives from around the world.

The meeting takes place at the Konstantinovsky Palace in St. Petersburg as SPIEF 2026 brings together political leaders, business executives and policymakers for discussions on the global economy, international cooperation, rare earths, critical minerals and emerging challenges facing the world.

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The topic of the special military operation and the growth of the Russian economy under its conditions were also discussed, as well as peace talks on the Ukrainian settlement. One of the questions concerned the Russian leader's attitude toward Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The conflict surrounding Iran and the consequences of the energy crisis were also touched upon. The head of state responded to rumors that Russia was preparing to attack NATO countries and spoke with journalists about contacts with the United States regarding Cuba and Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with representatives of leading international news agencies during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) 2026.


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“Last night, our drones covered a distance of about 1,000 kilometers to the St. Petersburg region — to the enemy navy’s arsenals and a base in Kronstadt,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on X, adding that drones also hit an oil depot in Russia's southern Krasnodar region.



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Reply #2384 - Jun 7th, 2026 at 11:35am
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 6th, 2026 at 10:19pm:
Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with representatives of leading international news agencies during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) 2026.


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What a dramatic picture of burning ship but where is the dry dock  they talk about @4.53, it looks more like Hormuz
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Meanwhile, the Iranian Navy launched Ghadir anti-ship missiles and new kamikaze drones, named Shahid Danaye (Dana'ie), against US destroyers in the Gulf of Oman.
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In reality the shot down drone fall down starting fire, which was extinguished under couple of hours.

So it is another fantasy fake made by idiots for idiots.
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