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Reply #1875 - Yesterday at 5:47am
 
There is a hell of a lot of dishonesty in Ukraine:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/peace-plan-bombshell-ukrainians-reportedly-...

Peace Plan Bombshell:

Ukrainians Reportedly Re-Wrote Plan to Give Themselves Full Immunity
and Remove Audit of International Aid.



A senior U.S. official said that Ukraine significantly changed one of the 28 points in the version that appeared online. In an apparent move to expose alleged corruption, the draft had called for an audit of all international aid Ukraine had received. The language was changed to say all parties will receive “full amnesty for their actions during the war.

[Ukrainian national security secretary Rustem] Umerov in his statement Friday denied that Ukraine had altered the provision.



According to a Wall Street Journal report from last week that's just getting more play in the social media sphere, it turns out that the U.S.-proffered version of a brokered peace between Kyiv and Moscow eliminated, at Ukraine's request, a call for an audit like the one described above.

This comes as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been under fire at home for a major corruption scandal involving close associates of his who were allegedly involved in a $100 million energy-sector embezzlement scheme.

I know, right? Corruption in Ukraine's energy sector? Who would have ever thought it?
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Reply #1876 - Yesterday at 5:50am
 

We can't let those crooks get away with that.
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Reply #1877 - Yesterday at 11:03am
 
Talking about corruption in Ukraine -  some of US and Europe top politicians have been involved in the corruption schemes as well, remember Bidens and Ukrainian Burisma scandal.
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Reply #1878 - Yesterday at 11:18am
 

The Ukraine war ended on November 6th last year, didn't it?

Surely Trump didn't lie   Undecided
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Reply #1879 - Yesterday at 11:57am
 
tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:03am:
Talking about corruption in Ukraine -
some of US and Europe top politicians have been involved in the corruption schemes as well,
remember Bidens and Ukrainian Burisma scandal.



yep - a whole lot of crooked scum working together to
cream off as much money as possible.
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Reply #1880 - Today at 6:01am
 
tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:03am:
Talking about corruption in Ukraine -  some of US and Europe top politicians have been involved in the corruption schemes as well, remember Bidens and Ukrainian Burisma scandal.


LOL, of course there is “no” corruption in ruzzia  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Witkoff’s idiotic “peace proposal” would see the rest of Ukraine occupied by the ruzzians within a year or two. Even repugs don’t much like it:

Quote:
. . . in Congress, the leaked calls stoked already fierce criticism of Mr. Trump’s attempts to engage with Mr. Putin, even among Republicans.


Trumpy lurrves dicktators.

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Representative Brian Fitzpatrick, a Pennsylvania Republican and co-chairman of the Ukraine Caucus, said on social media that “these ridiculous side shows and secret meetings need to stop.”

A Democratic co-chairman of the Ukraine Caucus, Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois, said in an interview that other than Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Mr. Trump’s team did not understand the need to “show Putin strength” and “how to best coalesce with your allies.”

“He acts so differently with Putin than anybody else in the world,” Mr. Quigley said. “It doesn’t make sense.”


Trumpy lurrves dicktators.

His idiotic “peace” plan is Trumpy seeing himself being awarded the Bobel peace prize. What an idiot!


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/26/us/politics/witkoff-leaked-transcript-deferen...
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Reply #1881 - Today at 8:01am
 
It all seems hopeless.

None of the European countries have converted to a wartime economy
and called for mass conscription to obtain millions of soldiers.
If they did I guess they would have to half all public service pay
and social welfare payments -
that would put them into economic depression conditions -
more than just a recession
and could lead to massive political uprisings and
even the overthrow of Govts.
I think they are all hoping the war will just go away -
but I don't think it will -
Putin just keeps making maximalist demands which can't be met.
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Reply #1882 - Today at 8:30am
 


The USA is involved with supplying intelligence to Ukraine:

They have many military spy satellites similar in size to the Hubble space telescope
but they aren't pointed at the stars they are pointed at the Earth.
They are providing detailed real time intelligence to Ukraine -
exactly what the KH-11 satellites do is highly classified.
Trump might cut off that information if Ukraine won't sign the "peace deal".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-11_KENNEN
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Reply #1883 - Today at 9:53am
 
It is good to hear woeful whinge from poofter who can not spell word Russia, it means that all is good  Wink
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Reply #1884 - Today at 10:02am
 
Now back to more meaningful discussion.

Bobby. wrote Today at 8:01am:
None of the European countries have converted to a wartime economy
and called for mass conscription to obtain millions of soldiers.
If they did I guess they would have to half all public service pay
and social welfare payments -
that would put them into economic depression conditions -
more than just a recession
and could lead to massive political uprisings and
even the overthrow of Govts.

I think they are all hoping the war will just go away -
but I don't think it will -
Putin just keeps making maximalist demands which can't be met.


On one hand that can be end of WOKE ideology
but on another hand it can accelerate replacement of Europe's white population and final Islamic takeover.

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Reply #1885 - Today at 3:40pm
 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/australias-m1a1-abrams-ba...


Australia’s M1A1 Abrams battle tanks for Ukraine are proving to be a poisoned chalice

A Ukrainian soldier on the front lines has grilled outdated military tech as “not sufficient”
for the current pressures in the war against Russia.

The usefulness of the M1A1 Abrams, however, is suspect.
They are a downmarket version of a 1970s-era design poorly suited to the modern high-tech battlefield.
All but two of the 31 similar tanks donated by the US in 2023 have already been destroyed.
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Reply #1886 - Today at 4:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote Today at 3:40pm:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/australias-m1a1-abrams-ba...


Australia’s M1A1 Abrams battle tanks for Ukraine are proving to be a poisoned chalice

A Ukrainian soldier on the front lines has grilled outdated military tech as “not sufficient”
for the current pressures in the war against Russia.

The usefulness of the M1A1 Abrams, however, is suspect.
They are a downmarket version of a 1970s-era design poorly suited to the modern high-tech battlefield.
All but two of the 31 similar tanks donated by the US in 2023 have already been destroyed.


I have photo evidence for 19 destroyed and 5 taken as trophy.
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Reply #1887 - Today at 4:33pm
 
LOL.

ruzzia must have found some tanks and artillery because Ukraine destroyed them no problem.

Notice the ruzzian air defences being taken out—Moscow going to be saturation bombed before long—industry, power plants, substations, ralway lines all gone soon.

ruzzians in Moscow are going to have a freezing cold winter:



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Reply #1888 - Today at 4:42pm
 
tallowood wrote Today at 4:25pm:
Bobby. wrote Today at 3:40pm:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/australias-m1a1-abrams-ba...


Australia’s M1A1 Abrams battle tanks for Ukraine are proving to be a poisoned chalice

A Ukrainian soldier on the front lines has grilled outdated military tech as “not sufficient”
for the current pressures in the war against Russia.

The usefulness of the M1A1 Abrams, however, is suspect.
They are a downmarket version of a 1970s-era design poorly suited to the modern high-tech battlefield.
All but two of the 31 similar tanks donated by the US in 2023 have already been destroyed.


I have photo evidence for 19 destroyed and 5 taken as trophy.



Tanks are no match for the latest drones -
tanks are obsolete now.
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Reply #1889 - Today at 4:49pm
 
Lots of Americans in Ukraine’s Foreign Legion.

One VERY polite American fighter forces 4 ruzzian pigs to surrender:

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