Leroy wrote on Mar 21
st, 2025 at 8:41am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 21
st, 2025 at 8:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 21
st, 2025 at 5:35am:
Can anyone explain this?
Many countries in Europe have the F-35 stealth fighter bomber aircraft
including the UK, Holland, Finland, Italy, Poland, Greece, Norway, Denmark etc.
Why haven't any of them secretly used their F-35s to help Ukraine?
They could take out Russian air defences such as the S-300 and S-400 SAM systems.
They could have flown secretly to Ukraine -
they are stealth aircraft - they can't be seen on radar -
refueled at a military airport and continued on to attack Russian targets.
Only a few people would ever know about it -
no need to put it in the news or advertise it -
just a bit of assistance here and there for Ukraine to help them win.
With air defences and radars taken out - Ukraine would have been free
to attack the Russians using air power on Ukrainian territory.
Why are the Europeans playing this game with such a straight bat? -
especially the POMs
All is fair in love and war.
So rather than helping Ukraine defend themselves,
to keep a buffer between Russia and the West, you're now advocating for Europe to get involved to the point of actually triggering WW3?
My how you've flip flopped all over the place on this subject...
Why on earth would you want a buffer between Russia and the West?.
I can't believe you need this explaining to you... Has your transition to Russian-sympathiser finally reached it's crescendo?
Because Russia has a long history of expansionism and destabilisation, having a buffer between it and the West is just common sense. Look at how they’ve invaded Georgia, Crimea, and now Ukraine, every time they see an opening, they push further. A strong Ukraine acts as a frontline, stopping Russia from directly pressuring NATO countries and making it harder for them to spread influence unchecked.
Beyond military threats, Russia right now is suffering economically largely because it invaded Ukraine. Russia’s economy has been struggling under sanctions, corruption, and a reliance on resource exports, but if they took all of Ukraine, they’d gain a massive industrial base, agricultural land, and millions of workers to prop up their system. Ukraine’s economy is one of the largest in Europe in terms of resources, and absorbing it would not only help Russia recover but also make it far more self-sufficient, reducing the effectiveness of Western sanctions.
At the same time, the US economy has been slipping, especially since Trump took office. His policies have weakened domestic stability, and after his recent talks with Putin in mid-February, Russia’s economy has actually started strengthening while the US falters. If this trend continues, it’s not just about Russia reclaiming influence in its region, they could position themselves as a rising superpower while the US declines. Allowing them to take Ukraine unchallenged would accelerate that shift dramatically.
As much as I take issue with Trump’s assault on his own people, I’d still rather see the US remain the dominant global superpower than let Russia or China take the lead. But Trump, either through incompetence or design, is actively working to weaken the US while propping up Russia, paving the way for its resurgence at America’s expense.
This isn’t just about Ukraine or some hollow “peace deal” that Russia won’t honour. It’s about the broader geopolitical balance. If Trump keeps undermining the US while enabling Moscow, we’re looking at a world where Russia seizes the advantage, and Washington willingly hands it to them, all so MAGA can avoid confronting the fact that their hero is selling them out.
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