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Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
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Reply #16 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
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Reply #17 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am
 
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
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How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.

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Reply #18 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 9:48am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
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The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Zion, schmion back at Frank.

Kiss Zionism goodbye Frank it is being flushed.
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Reply #19 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
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The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Yes there is.

Prof. Pappe explains that it's still going on today:




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Reply #20 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
Wiki



The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Yes there is.

Prof. Pappe explains that it's still going on today:







So?? Galloway and Pappe.


Why didn't the Arabs accept the 1948 partition?
Because they will never accept Israel's existence in any shape or form.
Why not??

I let you explain that.

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Reply #21 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:58pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
Wiki



The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Yes there is.

Prof. Pappe explains that it's still going on today:







So?? Galloway and Pappe.


Prof. Pappe is the author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, as shown above.

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Why didn't the Arabs accept the 1948 partition?
Because they will never accept Israel's existence in any shape or form.
Why not??

I let you explain that.



I already have. You just refuse to accept reality:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706934335/271#271
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Reply #22 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:43pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:10pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:58pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
Wiki



The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Yes there is.

Prof. Pappe explains that it's still going on today:







So?? Galloway and Pappe.


Prof. Pappe is the author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, as shown above.

Quote:
Why didn't the Arabs accept the 1948 partition?
Because they will never accept Israel's existence in any shape or form.
Why not??

I let you explain that.



I already have. You just refuse to accept reality:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1706934335/271#271

Nonsense.

The UN doesn't create - or not - countries. People create countries.
The UN resolution meant an international endorsement of the SUBSEQUENT creation, if they were willing, of two countries by two peoples.

The Jews accepted the endorsement and went ahead and created their state.
The Arabs, being interested ONLY in not allowing a Jewish state, revolted pronto and have been revolting ever since.

Do note that there was ZERO national 'Palestinian' struggle for nationhood for the previous 1400 years while they were under Islamic rule.


It's all a load of colossal bullshit. All countries in the ME are artificial creations. Come to think of it - all countries are.


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Reply #23 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:49pm
 
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:10pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:58pm:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:51am:
waggawoody wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:24am:
Frank wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Next, the Muslim armies consolidated their conquest of the Levant as Shurhabil and Amr went deeper into Palestine. Bet She'an surrendered after a little resistance followed by the surrender of Tiberias in February. Umar, after having learned of the position and strength of the Byzantine army in Palestine, wrote detailed instructions to his corps commanders there and ordered Yazid to capture the Mediterranean coast. Amr and Shurhabil accordingly marched against the strongest Byzantine garrison and defeated them in the Second Battle of Ajnadyn. The two corps then separated, with Amr moving to capture Nablus, Amawas, Jaffa, Haifa, Gaza and Yubna in order to complete the conquest of all Palestine, while Shurahbil moved against the coastal towns of Acre and Tyre. Yazid advanced from Damascus to capture the ports of Sidon, Arqa, Byblos and Beirut.[20] By 635 CE, Palestine, Jordan and Southern Syria, with the exception of Jerusalem and Caesarea, were in Muslim hands.
Wiki



The Muslims are invaders and conquerers.




How does that justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?



There is no ethnic clensing.



Yes there is.

Prof. Pappe explains that it's still going on today:







So?? Galloway and Pappe.


Prof. Pappe is the author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, as shown above.



Cry Cry Cry
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Peaceful rational Jews are telling hateful irrational Jews they are trapping themselves in constant war and hate and global isolation.
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Reply #25 - Jun 5th, 2024 at 9:34pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:52pm:
Peaceful rational Jews are telling hateful irrational Jews they are trapping themselves in constant war and hate and global isolation.

And we all watch you fapping to that, throbbo.

Faster, faster!  Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #26 - Jun 7th, 2024 at 7:48am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 8:43pm:
The UN doesn't create - or not - countries. People create countries.
The UN resolution meant an international endorsement of the SUBSEQUENT creation, if they were willing, of two countries by two peoples.

The Jews accepted the endorsement and went ahead and created their state.
The Arabs, being interested ONLY in not allowing a Jewish state, revolted pronto and have been revolting ever since.

Do note that there was ZERO national 'Palestinian' struggle for nationhood for the previous 1400 years while they were under Islamic rule.


It's all a load of colossal bullshit. All countries in the ME are artificial creations. Come to think of it - all countries are.





"In other words, the (UNSCOM) report explicitly recognized that the denial of Palestinian independence in order to pursue the goal of establishing a Jewish state constituted a rejection of the right of the Arab majority to self-determination. And yet, despite this recognition, UNSCOP had accepted this rejection of Arab rights as being within the bounds of a legitimate and reasonable framework for a solution."

But this thread is about the Nakba, So back on topic:

‘I am for compulsory transfer; I do not see anything immoral in it.’
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The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine  by Ilan Pappe


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Preface

In this building (The ‘Red House’, a typical early Tel-Avivian building), on a cold Wednesday afternoon, 10 March 1948, a group of eleven men, veteran Zionist leaders together with young military Jewish officers, put the final touches to a plan for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. That same evening, military orders were dispatched to the units on the ground to prepare for the systematic expulsion of the Palestinians from vast areas of the country. The orders came with a detailed description of the methods to be employed to forcibly evict the people: large-scale intimidation; laying siege to and bombarding villages and population centres; setting fire to homes, properties and goods; expulsion; demolition; and, finally, planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled inhabitants from returning. Each unit was issued with its own list of villages and neighbourhoods as the targets of this master plan. Codenamed Plan D (Dalet in Hebrew), this was the fourth and final version of less substantial plans that outlined the fate the Zionists had in store for Palestine and consequently for its native population. The previous three schemes had articulated only obscurely how the Zionist leadership contemplated dealing with the presence of so many Palestinians living in the land the Jewish national movement coveted as its own. This fourth and last blueprint spelled it out clearly and unambiguously: the Palestinians had to go. In the words of one of the first historians to note the significance of that plan, Simcha Flapan, ‘The military campaign against the Arabs, including the “conquest and destruction of the rural areas” was set forth in the Hagana’s Plan Dalet’. The aim of the plan was in fact the destruction of both the rural and urban areas of Palestine.

... this plan was both the inevitable product of the Zionist ideological impulse to have an exclusively Jewish presence in Palestine, and a response to developments on the ground once the British cabinet had decided to end the mandate. Clashes with local Palestinian militias provided the perfect context and pretext for implementing the ideological vision of an ethnically cleansed Palestine...

Once the decision was taken, it took six months to complete the mission. When it was over, more than half of Palestine’s native population, close to 800,000 people, had been uprooted, 531 villages had been destroyed, and eleven urban neighbourhoods emptied of their inhabitants. The plan decided upon on 10 March 1948, and above all its systematic implementation in the following months, was a clear-cut case of an ethnic cleansing operation, regarded under international law today as a crime against humanity.

After (WW II), it has become almost impossible to conceal large-scale crimes against humanity. Our modern communication-driven world, especially since the upsurge of electronic media, no longer allows human-made catastrophes to remain hidden from the public eye or to be denied. And yet, one such crime has been erased almost totally from the global public memory: the dispossession of the Palestinians in 1948 by Israel. This, the most formative event in the modern history of the land of Palestine, has ever since been systematically denied, and is still today not recognised as an historical fact, let alone acknowledged as a crime that needs to be confronted politically as well as morally. Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity, and the people who perpetrate it today are considered criminals to be brought before special tribunals...

We know the names of the people who sat in that room on the top floor of the Red House, beneath Marxist-style posters that carried such slogans as ‘Brothers in Arms’ and ‘The Fist of Steel’, and showed ‘new’ Jews – muscular, healthy and tanned – aiming their rifles from behind protective barriers in the ‘brave fight’ against ‘hostile Arab invaders’. We also know the names of the senior officers who executed the orders on the ground. All are familiar figures in the pantheon of Israeli heroism. Not so long ago many of them were still alive, playing major roles in Israeli politics and society; very few are still with us today.

For Palestinians, and anyone else who refused to buy into the Zionist narrative, it was clear long before this book was written that these people were perpetrators of crimes, but that they had successfully evaded justice and would probably never be brought to trial for what they had done. Besides their trauma, the deepest form of frustration for Palestinians has been that the criminal act these men were responsible for has been so thoroughly denied, and that Palestinian suffering has been so totally ignored, ever since 1948.

... using primarily Israeli military archives...revisionist Israeli historians did succeed in showing how false and absurd was the Israeli claim that the Palestinians had left ‘of their own accord’. They were able to confirm many cases of massive expulsions from villages and towns and revealed that the Jewish forces had committed a considerable number of atrocities, including massacres...

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,,, When it created its nation-state, the Zionist movement did not wage a war that ‘tragically but inevitably’ led to the expulsion of ‘parts of’ the indigenous population, but the other way round: the main goal was the ethnic cleansing of all of Palestine, which the movement coveted for its new state. A few weeks after the ethnic cleansing operations began, the neighbouring Arab states sent a small army – small in comparison to their overall military might – to try, in vain, to prevent the ethnic cleansing. The war with the regular Arab armies did not bring the ethnic cleansing operations to a halt until their successful completion in the autumn of 1948...

But the story of 1948...is the simple but horrific story of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, a crime against humanity that Israel has wanted to deny and cause the world to forget. Retrieving it from oblivion is incumbent upon us, not just as a greatly overdue act of historiographical reconstruction or professional duty; it is, as I see it, a moral decision, the very first step we must take if we ever want reconciliation to have a chance, and peace to take root, in the torn lands of Palestine and Israel.

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When ... Zionism began in earnest in the late 19th century, there were only about 15,000 Jews in Palestine. In 1893, for example, the Arabs comprised roughly 95 percent of the population, and though under Ottoman control, they had been in continuous possession of this territory for 1300 years. Even when Israel was founded, Jews were only about 35 percent of Palestine’s population and owned 7 percent of the land. The mainstream Zionist leadership was not interested in establishing a bi‐national state or accepting a permanent partition of Palestine. The Zionist leadership was sometimes willing to accept partition as a first step, but this was a tactical maneuver and not their real objective. As David Ben‐Gurion put it in the late 1930s, “After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.”

To achieve this goal, the Zionists had to expel large numbers of Arabs from the territory that would eventually become Israel. There was simply no other way to accomplish their objective. Ben‐Gurion saw the problem clearly, writing in 1941 that “it is impossible to imagine general evacuation [of the Arab population] without compulsion, and brutal compulsion.” Or as Israeli historian Benny Morris puts it, “the idea of transfer is as old as modern Zionism and has accompanied its evolution and praxis during the past century.” This opportunity came in 1947‐48, when Jewish forces drove up to 700,000 Palestinians into exile. Israeli officials have long claimed that the Arabs fled because their leaders told them to, but careful scholarship (much of it by Israeli historians like Morris) have demolished this myth. In fact, most Arab leaders urged the Palestinian population to stay home, but fear of violent death at the hands of Zionist forces led most of them to flee. After the war, Israel barred the return of the Palestinian exiles.

The fact that the creation of Israel entailed a moral crime against the Palestinian people was well understood by Israel’s leaders. As Ben‐Gurion told Nahum Goldmann, president of the World Jewish Congress, “If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. . . . We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti‐Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”

    -   J. J. Mearsheimer and S. M. Walt, The Israel Lobby and U. S. Foreign Policy, Faculty Research Working Papers Series, Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, (March, 2006)
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