A separate strand for this now crying issue is a terrible thing!  And I think it is time we had one!!!   

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/experts-call-for-less-talk-and-more-act...

"What actions need to urgently be prioritised to prevent women's deaths?"

That was the question on the agenda at yesterday's crisis talks on murdered and missing women.

Domestic, Family and Sexual Violence Commissioner Micaela Cronin — who convened the talks — was joined by those who have lost a loved one to violence, frontline workers, advocates and peak bodies.

Attendees working at every level on this crisis say they have got the answers to help stop this scourge, but say they need governments to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, if they're serious about ending it.

In 2021, the federal government held a national summit on women's safety, in 2020 a Senate inquiry was established looking at violence against women and children, and in March 2015 then-prime minister Tony Abbott described it as a tragic and deadly epidemic and established a new advisory panel on domestic, family and sexual violence.

Also in 2021, the Senate inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls was established. However, it hasn't received anything near the attention given to these other events."

I'll leave my analytical comments until later ..... go to it!  Violence overall in society is one issue - relationship abuse and even the occasional violence are another set of issues......

Let's hear it from the monkey gallery first.... smith - you're on .... messra - you're on ... peccars - you're on ... dividie - you're on ....Karnal - you're on .... don't forget your lines ....   heeeeey - where's laughing boy?  Still in Gondwanamo?  It's so hard these days to even get messra out of that Sleeping Beauty phase.... must be some wild and alluring dreams in there....

chimera wrote on May 8^th, 2024 at 7:09am:


Some of the areas that contribute that must be fully looked into.

At the moment this entire 'argument' is dominated by one side - the side who got in the first invasion/strike - and has thus degenerated, by government decree and guidance - into an echo chamber with one clear agenda in mind and sight.  What is NEEDED is the equivalent, from the 'gender ideology' component of Woke, of the Cass Review..... wherein as the very first step - Dr Cass recommended a halt to all procedures on minors and children and the accumulation over a sufficiently lengthy period of time of ALL the relevant information while constructing the 'social constructs' such as rules, and regulations and standards and training and accreditation - you know the drift.... BEFORE any Final Solutions and Konzentrationslageren/gulags are even considered.

We can't have a Bruce Final Solution spy on every corner and people being convicted on denouncement (he has piggy eyes, is a beach ball and has a prick - GUILTY!) and made into 'crims', and then disappeared (socially or even physically) in Night and Fog operations.**

**3 am knock**

"Come along, Comrade... we are all brothers and sisters together here and you know how these things work.  You have been denounced as an oppressor of a certain group!  Do not concern yourself about your baggage ... you will not be needing it.... and no need for concern.... nobody ever hears screams from the Lubyanka cellars.... all of your rights are safe once you are behind the walls...."

**  I hold no brief for Bruce IF he did it - and that remains an IF .... I hold only a brief for what is Right..... and what was done there..... is nothing but a disgrace on all sides.... except maybe Reynolds - for whom I equally hold no brief - if not actually a negative one.

Tenez Le Droit!  Hold (to)The Right!  Let Right be done though the heavens fall!!  And Honey - Swat That Malicious Ponce!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/at-risk-children-s-broken-nsw-governmen...

Not like this..... take a look at the single phrase - 'started acting out' - now - WHAT was he acting out?

The abuse etc, pure and simple....  let's forget all the arguments for the moment about 'disadvantage'  - we all know that not all from disadvantaged backgrounds turn bad - what can happen, on the other hand as a result of dysfunction at the level of abuse, violencem, neglect and general devil behaviour (gotta admit the 20th Century was all mine, Kevin!  All of it!!) by 'parents' and those in loco parentis - is that sometimes for a LIFETIME a person will absorb - like a sponge or a kid - from their environment the very things that are creating of that environment a living hell..... and they will live those things out, even if their superficial social face is a sweety-pie.

I call it The Monster.... I'll try to give you an example of The Monster - the ex is from a savagely dysfunctional and violent family - at one time when I was going down with heart failure, she  nagged me into getting down on my hands and knees to  clean the bottom shelves under the sink that 'she couldn't get to with her back and hip' .. she was the boss, you see - just ask her, so any demand was fair game.  Halfway through I looked up at her and she was standing there with this hate-filled, devilish look on her face - the sort of thing you would see in some really bad boss who would try to force people to things and felt super-smug and superior - seen it before .... it was HATE-filled and she felt smug at getting her way with a very sick man... concentration camp guard stuff.

The result of all this - with me on anti-coagulants and such, was long-lasting bruises to elbows and knees and a couple of minor what felt like tendon tears that dragged on and on for months....  The Monster.... see her in public and butter would not melt in her mouth - but her kids know as well.... for a long time she was supposed to be getting counseling etc ... has  ways of skirting away from actually doing that...

So - who was she acting out?  Why - her very own father who was his own kind of Monster, the town drunk and violent and all that neglectful and abusive even possibly sexually (four daughters).... she even takes on the timbre of his voice when The Monster comes out.... but it is well hidden.... a form of 'relationship abuse' you never hear about....

There are two kinds - those who absorb their environment and its (bad) lessons like a sponge and live them out, often for life and often via even a form of 'possession' by the Monster who created them... after that monster has died..... they take on the same characteristics ... scary stuff, huh?  the other kind are the ones who stand back from dysfunction and say - "This is not what I EVER want!"  and often walk away at some point - forever if possible.  But the scars remain.... and must be closely watched lest they break open ...... firstly - never let a human smell blood in the water .... secondly ... don't bite others ..... there's enough blood in the waters already...

I'm working on it - part of a thesis....

Setanta wrote on May 8^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:


** does a Jordan Peterson pause**   Ummm ... yes - but could it perhaps be considered as a form of relationship abuse on account of the clear differentials in power involved, and the clear reality that this is an entrenched cultural thing, which establishes in itself a relationship....??  If we consider it from that point of view - then to impose in such a way according to a 'script' can indeed itself be no more than blatant abuse - as usual many may accept it without too much thought - but when any perceived or real wrong has been done to any individual, that leaves the field wide open to revenge and retaliation and all kinds of unrest - not least the exertion by the powerless person in that situation to impose on those  with less 'power' than she or he has ... often in the close family relationship ... the equivalent of kicking the mangy cur at home after being badly treated by the Mullah in a case ...


None of this functions so curb or cure violence.... but becomes instead just another form of entrenched and entrenchment OF violence in communities....