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Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine
Apr 28^th, 2024 at 7:55am

We're in $1.2 trillion of Federal Govt debt -
we don't have $100 million to give away -
it will have to be printed by the RBA -
causing more inflation.
Total aid now $1 billion.
Albo is a total idiot.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-announces-new-100-million-support-pa...

Australia announces new $100 million military aid package for Ukraine

By 9News Staff

6:27am Apr 28, 2024

Australia has announced its renewed support for Ukraine with a new $100 million military aid package.
Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence, Richard Marles, announced the package overnight during a brief visit to Ukraine.
"Australia remains committed to supporting Ukraine to resolve the conflict on its terms," Marles said.

"I am pleased to announce an additional $100 million of military assistance, including world leading drone technology, with the support of local Australian defence industry.
"Australia is also providing critical air-to-ground precision munitions and short range air defence systems."
The Albanese Government's support package for the war-torn country includes $50 million in military aid, which includes $30 million towards uncrewed aerial systems and another $15 million for other high priority equipment, such as combat helmets, rigid hull inflatable boats, boots, fire masks and generators.
The other $50 million is earmarked for short range air defence systems and the delivery of air-to-ground precision munitions.

The new package takes Australia's military assistance to $880 million

since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine,
and it brings Australia's overall support for Ukraine to more than

$1 billion.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50283 At my desk.	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #1 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 7:58am This is our chance to defend democracy Bobby.
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Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine
Reply #2 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:03am

freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2024 at 7:58am:

This is our chance to defend democracy Bobby.

But we don't have that money to give away -
we're already in massive debt.
We're borrowing money to give away.

The Europeans should have joined forces right at the start
in Feb 2022 and kicked the Russians out before they got a foothold.
It is obviously not important to them because they didn't do that.
Why should it be important for us?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50283 At my desk.	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #3 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:07am Quote: But we don't have that money to give away Yes we do.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143467 Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:09am Take that, Putin!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111100 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:10am freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:07am: Quote: But we don't have that money to give away Yes we do. Yeah - the Govt issued Govt. Bonds and the RBA printed the money to pay for it.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52196 Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #6 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:24am This is our chance to defend Biden's democracy.
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Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine
Reply #7 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:09am:

Take that, Putin!

Smiley

NATO was created by 12 countries from Europe and North America on 4 April 1949 -

therefore it had 2022- 1949 = 73 years
to decide what to do if a non NATO member was attacked by
the then Soviet Union or Russia now.
Their decision was to let Russia invade and do almost nothing to interfere
except give Ukraine an insufficient number of high tech weapons -
give them no troops -
not enough activity to kick the Russians out.
That was their decision - sit on their bums and watch -
they have to live with it - that was their poor decision not ours -
why should we pay for their poor decision? -
it's in their backyard not ours.
We have China to worry about here.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2023 Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:30am I believe a LNP government would be doing the same. Are we giving away actual equipment or just the $$$?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111100 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #9 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:33am Daves2017 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:30am: I believe a LNP government would be doing the same. Are we giving away actual equipment or just the $$$? The Libbos would do the same. We have a one party State with 2 branches : Labor and Liberal.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143467 Gender:	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #10 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:34am Daves2017 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:30am: I believe a LNP government would be doing the same. Are we giving away actual equipment or just the $$$? Equipment, mainly. Bobby thinks we're handing over $100 million in cash - we're not.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50283 At my desk.	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #11 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 8:39am If we are counting the man-hours, we can charge that at whatever rate we want, seeing as we are not asking anyone to actually pay it.
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Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine
Reply #12 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 9:00am

Equipment can have its benefits for Australia.
Bomb and rockets have a use by date.
Australian made equipment means Australian jobs.

We get a return on the donation in seeing how our equipment works/ doesn’t in real life as well.
I know I sound hawkish but I’m not actually. Just looking at it realistic.

I believe NATO is profiting in much the same way with the added bonus of seeing exactly what Russia has and how it use’s it.
It might be in NATO advantage too allow the war too drag on forever as it drains Russia thus in turn making NATO country’s more secure.
A weaker Russia is a less dangerous Russia, right?

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“Two incomes of $120-150k a year is the minimum required to live in Australia. You need to find a career that can get you to that in the future, or you’re cooked,”

Fair go!?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50283 At my desk.	Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine Reply #13 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 9:13am Quote: A weaker Russia is a less dangerous Russia, right? So long as they don't forget where the nukes are stored.
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Re: Albo gives away $100 million more to Ukraine
Reply #14 - Apr 28^th, 2024 at 10:06am

My village needs govt grants for basic infrastructure

We need stormwater channeling to prevent flooding so we can get out to buy supplies

We need street lighting, footpaths, mobile reception, sealed street roads, a PO mailing box, etc, etc

There's no democracy, there's only LibLab decisions, poor decisions at that, they only do what they want, not what Australia needs

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