chimera wrote on Apr 26
th, 2024 at 3:55pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 26
th, 2024 at 2:08pm:
That we should be ruled by Islamic law in an Islamic state, as Muhammad intended and enacted.
That removes the element of 'political' as normally used. The Bible set up the early state of Israel for religious functions without describing the politics. The Jews only had kings against the Bible's words about the Judges of the Law. Then the Church had power without politics being described in the scriptures.
Can you say what an Islamic political platform would look like, apart from no booze,
poofs diverse gender or idols? Would these 5 boys have any political opinions, hmm?
Islam rejects the concept of political as normally used. Christianity, and as a result most western thinking outside of Islam, makes a clear distinction between church and state and the separation of the two has become a foundation of our society, seen as necessary for the proper functioning of both the church and the state, as well as a way to separate powers. Most communist countries are openly hostile to religion, and France leans a bit in that direction as well under the label of secularism.
Not Islam. In Islamic culture they are one and the same. Muhammad was both a political and a religious leader. He had convenient revelations from Allah every time he wanted to rape and pillage, invent a new rule or custom, or even change his mind about previous rules that Allah had endorsed. Those revelations, which were transparently for political convenience at the time, have been embedded in the religion and from that, the culture.
We see this in the most fundamental religious aspect of Islam. Islam defines conversion to the religion as an act - a recital. Not as an adoption of beliefs or faith. Which of course gives you fewer arguments when you want to lop someone's head off for abandoning Islam.
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