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Reply #180 - Oct 29th, 2025 at 2:03pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2025 at 1:05pm:
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Rising heat kills one person a minute worldwide, major report reveals


Biggest analysis of its kind finds millions are dying each year because of failure to tackle climate crisis


Rising global heat is now killing one person a minute around the world, a major report on the health impact of the climate crisis has revealed.

It says the world’s addiction to fossil fuels also causes toxic air pollution, wildfires and the spread of diseases such as dengue fever, and millions each year are dying owing to the failure to tackle global heating.

The report, the most comprehensive to date, says the damage to health will get worse with leaders such as Donald Trump ripping up climate policies and oil companies continuing to exploit new reserves.

Governments gave out $2.5bn a day in direct subsidies to fossil fuels companies in 2023, the researchers found, while people lost about the same amount because of high temperatures preventing them from working on farms and building sites.

Reduced coal burning has saved about 400 lives a day in the last decade, the report says, and renewable energy production is rising fast. But the experts say a healthy future is impossible if fossil fuels continue to be financed at current rates.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01919-1/abstr...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/29/rising-heat-kills-one-person...

Actually the study is paywalled. The text comes from The Guardian.

This is the limit of the Lancet article -

"Driven by human-caused greenhouse gas emissions, climate change is increasingly claiming lives and harming people's health worldwide. Mean annual temperatures exceeded 1·5°C above those of pre-industrial times for the first time in 2024. Despite ever more urgent calls to tackle climate change, greenhouse gas emissions rose to record levels that same year. Climate change is increasingly destabilising the planetary systems and environmental conditions on which human life depends."

What is carefully NOT said in the post is the reduced number of people dying from cold.

"Non-optimal temperatures are now considered among the leading risk factors of mortality worldwide.1 A global analysis showed that 9·4% of all deaths can be attributed to both cold and hot non-optimal temperatures, corresponding to about 5 million deaths.2 In most epidemiological studies, excess cold deaths far outnumber heat deaths. In that same global analysis, of the 9·4% attributable temperature-related deaths, 8·5% (range 6·2–10·5%) were cold-related and only 0·9% (range 0·6–1·4%) were heat-related,2 which corresponds to approximately 4·6 million deaths from cold and about 489 000 from heat, a ratio of roughly 9:1 of cold versus heat. This pattern is also consistent in regional studies.3–5 In this Comment we summarise why this pattern emerges and address what this implies for future temperatures and related mortality under climate change."

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"The bottom line, however, is not whether heat or cold is more dangerous, but how we can save the most lives, especially as the climate continues to change. Nowadays, given the current climate trends and limited success in climate mitigation, the current epidemiological literature strongly suggests that an urgent focus on heat-related deaths is well justified. "

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(25)00054-3/fullt...

So ten time more deaths from cold. Sounds like a warming world win, to me.

BTW - 3 references to be from the world weather attribution group. 

4 references to the Guardian. So much for peer-review.  Wink
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Reply #181 - Oct 30th, 2025 at 4:06pm
 
I see that social loser is calling you a liar in C&C Board.
No-one reads his posts on this Forum, beyond his enemies that he makes.
He just doesn't relate to this Forum anymore.
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Reply #182 - Oct 30th, 2025 at 4:09pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 30th, 2025 at 4:06pm:
I see that social loser is calling you a liar in C&C Board.
No-one reads his posts on this Forum, beyond his enemies that he makes.
He just doesn't relate to this Forum anymore.


It's ASPD:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1617167598/1380#1384
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Reply #183 - Oct 30th, 2025 at 8:33pm
 
It's the result of him being, as Gordon has revealed, that he is a lonely old homosexual and as I like to point out - with the brain of a redneck.
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Reply #184 - Oct 31st, 2025 at 2:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2025 at 8:03am:
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An E.P.A. Plan to Kill a Major Climate Rule Is Worrying Business Leaders


Some carmakers and energy executives say the plan would trigger costly litigation and spur individual states to create a patchwork of tighter rules.


The Environmental Protection Agency is promising to erase a scientific finding that underpins climate regulations nationwide. But some business leaders said they are wary that the move could lead to a costly legal quagmire.

The rule, known as the “endangerment finding,” is the conclusion by the E.P.A. that greenhouse gases endanger public health and therefore must be regulated by the federal government. Lee Zeldin, the E.P.A. administrator, has said the agency would repeal the finding, claiming that the burden to industries of cutting greenhouse gas emissions is more harmful than a warming planet.

And yet carmakers, electric utilities and even the oil and gas industry have asked the E.P.A. to tread carefully. If the federal government were to stop regulating greenhouse gases, it could clear the way for states and municipalities to sue companies for damages from climate change. And it could spur individual states to come up with their own pollution limits, creating a patchwork of regulations. Environmental groups have also promised to sue the E.P.A. if it repeals the finding, leading to more uncertainty for businesses.

“This is something that the vast majority of industry didn’t ask for and doesn’t want,” said Zach Friedman, the senior director of federal policy at Ceres, a nonprofit group that submitted a letter from 59 companies and investors opposing the E.P.A. plan.

Brigit Hirsch, a spokeswoman for the E.P.A., said in a statement that rescinding the endangerment finding would “unlock regulatory clarity like never before” and said the finding had led to heavy costs, particularly for the auto industry. “We live in a democracy, and as such private companies are welcome to make decisions as they see fit,” she said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/25/climate/endangerment-finding-auto-energy-laws...

So nothing about the Endangerment Ruling at all. It is based on the falsified Linear No Threshold junk science. It is also based on the worthless climate models.

The Endangerment Ruling, being looked at by among others quantum physicists, climatologists, and statisticians looks not at the earth observatory stations, subject to gross mismanagement, but the troposphere where the models predict the tropospheric hotspot. The satellites find no evidence of a tropospheric hotspot, so therefore the climate models are debunked. Observations trump theory. Wink


With the number of papers being withdrawn expanding, it needs statisticians on the paper reviews. Wink
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Reply #185 - Oct 31st, 2025 at 2:36pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 30th, 2025 at 8:33pm:
It's the result of him being, as Gordon has revealed, that he is a lonely old homosexual and as I like to point out - with the brain of a redneck.



Monk doesn't know.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #186 - Oct 31st, 2025 at 3:36pm
 
Monk's education was from reading trivial pursuit cards, watching Sale of the Century and Xmas bangers.
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Reply #187 - Oct 31st, 2025 at 6:39pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2025 at 5:03pm:
Paint me cool: scientists reveal roof coating that can reduce surface temperatures up to 6C on hot days



They have been on the market for years.

So not new. Roll Eyes

And quoting the Guardian about the new, improved heatwave deaths, with no mention of lower deaths by cold. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #188 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 10:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 6th, 2025 at 8:00pm:
Well, we knew it was.

UAH6 to end October 2025:

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The Version 6.1 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for October, 2025 was +0.53 deg. C departure from the 1991-2020 mean, unchanged from the September, 2025 value.

The Version 6.1 global area-averaged linear temperature trend (January 1979 through October 2025) remains at +0.16 deg/ C/decade (+0.22 C/decade over land, +0.13 C/decade over oceans).


https://www.drroyspencer.com/2025/11/uah-v6-1-global-temperature-update-for-octo...


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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 6th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
Of course, we knew AGW was continuing, extreme heat continues as do wildfires.


So let's see. AGW is so bad it is cooler than 1998. 28 years. Wink

And of course wildfires continue, so do arsonists. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #189 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 10:49pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Monk's education was from reading trivial pursuit cards, watching Sale of the Century and Xmas bangers.



Monk doesn't know -

he was a high school drop out.
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Reply #190 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 2:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2025 at 12:12pm:
While sea surface temperatures (SSTs) continue to be very high, throughout the month of October daily temperatures were tracking close to those of October 2015, the fourth warmest month on record. The average SST for 60°S–60°N for October 2025 was 20.54°C, 0.34°C above the 1991-2020 average, placing it third highest on record for October, 0.24°C and 0.14°C lower than the values of 2023 and 2024, respectively, and just 0.02°C above October 2015.


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What JM doesn't say is the increased SST's since the Hunga Tonga eruption and subsequent decline as postulated at the time. Wink

AGW the only lens through which we must look. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #191 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 6:29pm
 
Only 3 weeks till summer and we have snow on Mt Macedon and Mt Baw Baw -
both close to Melbourne:



https://www.weatherzone.com.au/vic/central/mount-macedon

Central for Tuesday. Cloudy. Very high chance of showers,
most likely in the morning and afternoon with possible small hail.
Snow falling above 800 metres.
(Mt Macedon altitude 1,010 meters)

Winds W/SW 20 to 30 km/h tending W/NW 15 to 20 km/h in the late evening.


https://www.weatherzone.com.au/vic/w-and-s-gippsland/baw-baw

West and South Gippsland for Tuesday. Cloudy. Very high chance of showers,
most likely in the morning and afternoon with possible small hail.
Snow falling above 800 metres.
Winds W/NW 15 to 20 km/h tending W/SW 25 to 35 km/h before dawn
then tending W/NW 15 to 20 km/h in the late evening.


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Reply #192 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 6:39pm
 
Close to Monk's place?

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/tas/lower-derwent/mount-wellington


Mount Wellington Weather

Tomorrow

Snow tending to rain

-3 ° C     to    +3 ° C

South East for Tuesday. Partly cloudy. High chance of showers.
Snow falling above 400 metres, rising to 600 metres during the afternoon.
The chance of a thunderstorm in the early afternoon.
Possible small hail. Winds NW 15 to 25 km/h tending
NW/SW 20 to 30 km/h in the early morning then becoming NW 25 to 35 km/h in the late evening.
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Reply #193 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 6:48pm
 
Well - how about that?

Less than 3 weeks till summer and we have snow.

Where's all the global warming that Monk was trying to scare us with?

Melbourne and Hobart are cold and wet.
Monk has a tropical dog - the poor thing.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #194 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 8:03pm
 
You can't blame JM for that. According to AGW theory, any temperature increase is proof of AGW, any decrease or snow is just weather. Wink
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