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Reply #45 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:08pm
 
The birth rate in Australia is at 1.6.

It has been in decline for nearly a decade.

A birth rate of 2.1 is required for replacement.

It's too late for hyper-productive f~cking to provide workers to sustain a sharply rising over-60s population to 2045.

Australia is lucky that it is a destination of choice for prospective immigrants who have needed skills and want to raise a family of at least 2 children.
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Reply #46 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:07pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Too many people.
Not enough houses.

What CAN be done?

Build more houses, import fewer people. No capacity for the former, wacist to limit immigration.

So.... paralysis.





But that's not how it works Frank.
It's all about creating a massive population of extreme poverty which allows a minority of brain cells to rule at the top like a gay-hierarchy of inbred uber rich.

Australia's British infused 'Egalitarian' middle-class culture is in the way of that.
...the more Australia embraces the American way (under the Media narrative) - the more it will be 'like' America.


You've got it - order your thoughts better.... we are looking at the development of a neo-feudal style of society/culture here ... some of it is the inner madness of the overly well-off in their base assumptions without merit or intellect, that somehow they have the 'right' to go down this path - another part comes from the advent of far too many people from what were third world countries, with their extreme divides between rich and poor, and their fundamentally uncivilised idea that only the rich deserve anything decent and the rest should be begging for a crust of a couple of day's work here and there to pick their grapes and olives.

Years ago, broke as after divorce, injury and illness, and out of fuel - I was parked on the side of the road at a stop where you could build a fire... it wasn't so bad... winter and sunsets were nice and a fire was beaut... slept in the back of the station wagon for 3-4 days before finding a place in town where I found a great sleeping partner - man, oh, man - what a woman ............  as I looked one evening from gathering sticks, back at my car - I thought:-  "This would make a great painting - modern day swaggy and his faithful steed at the fireside stop".

Not so far off the truth.... after that I started again, building a house from scratch in my fifties.... and still not well... ending up with a heart attack, but still going and then renovating two houses to build capital... until the big one eighteen months ago - heart failure and triple bypass..... and that has sure knocked some steam out of me.

Best you learn as much from the Old Master as possible.... none of us know how much time we have left.... and you will need me some time.....
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Re: Rental Affordability Is As Bad As Its Ever Been
Reply #47 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:08am:
Ah, that town.

You also claimed in this thread that it does not exist, and I responded with several examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/50#50


no, you listed a town that was for sale several years ago, another $6 million town (not sure what sort of apartment you live in)  and no job opportunities for either of them. Not quite the same thing as buying 'a town for less than an apartment' as a way to beat affordability in the property market now is it. I think it's time you got out your crayons and started again.


As far as I know it is still for sale. As are others. For less than the price of an inner city apartment. Exactly like I said. I do not know how to explain your confusion on the matter.


If it was still for sale the listing would have been updated and not be a 3 yr old listing.  Besides,  you've failed to show what jobs would be available for anyone moving there. You've also not explained how anyone buying that town is going to pay for upgrades to make the houses habitable,  given they can't find a job.

Only a simpleton would argue that the tens of thousands struggling with rental stress can just buy some shack out in the middle of nowhere and move. Congratulations,  you qualify as that simpleton.
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Reply #48 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:17pm
 
Yeah - but all those people in part-time casual and lower wages working for their old country boss on agreement are not going to be paying the taxes needed to support that older generation anyway - so this is barking up a dead tree... it is barking along a dead log lying on the ground.

Creating of this one another third world country is not going to solve any problems in any way.... NO third world country is able to look after itself properly and especially any 'aging population'.

Get with it... engage brain.... you can't make a country more 'prosperous' sufficiently to afford that aging population by reducing the general prosperity and hoarding it all into the hands of a few, most of whom 'disappear' it offshore or into tax dodges anyway.

Jesus - some of you people....  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Re: Rental Affordability Is As Bad As Its Ever Been
Reply #49 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:05am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:10pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:08am:
Ah, that town.

You also claimed in this thread that it does not exist, and I responded with several examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/50#50


no, you listed a town that was for sale several years ago, another $6 million town (not sure what sort of apartment you live in)  and no job opportunities for either of them. Not quite the same thing as buying 'a town for less than an apartment' as a way to beat affordability in the property market now is it. I think it's time you got out your crayons and started again.


As far as I know it is still for sale. As are others. For less than the price of an inner city apartment. Exactly like I said. I do not know how to explain your confusion on the matter.


If it was still for sale the listing would have been updated and not be a 3 yr old listing. 


I didn't say through the same agents John.

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Besides,  you've failed to show what jobs would be available for anyone moving there.


I agree that you ask a lot of stupid questions.

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You've also not explained how anyone buying that town is going to pay for upgrades to make the houses habitable,  given they can't find a job.


Another good example.

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Only a simpleton would argue that the tens of thousands struggling with rental stress can just buy some shack out in the middle of nowhere and move. Congratulations,  you qualify as that simpleton.


Only a simpleton would misunderstand what I posted the way you did.
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Reply #50 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:10am
 
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Why are stadiums priorities for governments rather than shelter?


Transaction costs, and other legal and logistical issues.

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Is housing a fundamental right for Australians  or is it now a luxury for the rich?


Neither.

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The birth rate in Australia is at 1.6.


The latest data is back up to 1.7
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Reply #51 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:40am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:10am:
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The birth rate in Australia is at 1.6.


The latest data is back up to 1.7

So immigration is having a positive effect, then.
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Reply #52 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:16am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:05am:
I didn't say through the same agents John.



A new agent would have a new ad dumbarse

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:05am:
I agree that you ask a lot of stupid questions.


they only seem stupid to simpletons

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Another good example.


of your stupidity? I agree

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Only a simpleton would misunderstand what I posted the way you did.


you making dumb comments with no thought to how it works is a misunderstanding, it's just another example of your simple mindedness.
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Reply #53 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:37am
 
John no sane person would have interpreted my post as a suggestion that people who cannot afford a house should buy an entire town that they do not know what to do with.

Just you.
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Reply #54 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:43am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:08pm:
The birth rate in Australia is at 1.6.

It has been in decline for nearly a decade.

A birth rate of 2.1 is required for replacement.

It's too late for hyper-productive f~cking to provide workers to sustain a sharply rising over-60s population to 2045.

Australia is lucky that it is a destination of choice for prospective immigrants who have needed skills and want to raise a family of at least 2 children.




This will be lost on them. Utterly.
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Reply #55 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:44am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:37am:
John no sane person would have interpreted my post as a suggestion that people who cannot afford a house should buy an entire town that they do not know what to do with.

Just you.


Nah man. You said that.

Remember? I asked you if they could negatively gear their general store and you went quiet?
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Reply #56 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:48am
 
And Mothra.
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Reply #57 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 8:24am
 
Oh Fleadriver, trying to cover your tracks, you left this mess behind:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/30

Just gobsmackingly pathetic. How long did it take you and is your ego really that fragile?


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Reply #58 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 8:59am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2024 at 7:37am:
John no sane person would have interpreted my post as a suggestion that people who cannot afford a house should buy an entire town that they do not know what to do with.



No sane person would suggest it as a solution to the housing crisis.

But i can understand why you are running away from your comments. Cheesy
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Reply #59 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 9:03am
 
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No sane person would suggest it as a solution to the housing crisis.


No one here suggested it as a solution to the housing crisis John. Only a simpleton would come to that conclusion.
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