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Rental Affordability Is As Bad As Its Ever Been (Read 2830 times)
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Reply #30 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:12pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 11:48am:
You do not have to live in one of the east coast capitals. Even if that is where you currently work.



and what is the cost of travel from your fictitious affordable town to the nearest capital ?


You don't have to work there either John.


So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?
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Reply #31 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm
 
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John.
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Reply #32 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 3:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



yes - house painters.
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Reply #33 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



And yet you've not listed these jobs nor this imaginary town of yours. Is it time for your yellow crayons again?
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Reply #34 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:58pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



And yet you've not listed these jobs nor this imaginary town of yours. Is it time for your yellow crayons again?


Are you suggesting the job ads don't exist because I don't list them for you John?

Do you think this is why people live in cities they cannot afford to rent in, because they are afraid of the unknown other 99% of the country?
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Re: Rental Affordability Is As Bad As Its Ever Been
Reply #35 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 10:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:35pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:58pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



And yet you've not listed these jobs nor this imaginary town of yours. Is it time for your yellow crayons again?


Are you suggesting the job ads don't exist because I don't list them for you John?

Do you think this is why people live in cities they cannot afford to rent in, because they are afraid of the unknown other 99% of the country?


No I'm suggesting that you're full of shit and making it up as you go.
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Reply #36 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 6:45am
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 10:02pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:35pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:58pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
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So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



And yet you've not listed these jobs nor this imaginary town of yours. Is it time for your yellow crayons again?


Are you suggesting the job ads don't exist because I don't list them for you John?

Do you think this is why people live in cities they cannot afford to rent in, because they are afraid of the unknown other 99% of the country?


No I'm suggesting that you're full of shit and making it up as you go.


And you think listing job ads will clarify the matter?
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Re: Rental Affordability Is As Bad As Its Ever Been
Reply #37 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:03am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 6:45am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 10:02pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 9:35pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 6:58pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Quote:
So what jobs are going in your imaginary town?


There are plenty of regional towns and cities with various labour shortages John. 



And yet you've not listed these jobs nor this imaginary town of yours. Is it time for your yellow crayons again?


Are you suggesting the job ads don't exist because I don't list them for you John?

Do you think this is why people live in cities they cannot afford to rent in, because they are afraid of the unknown other 99% of the country?


No I'm suggesting that you're full of shit and making it up as you go.


And you think listing job ads will clarify the matter?


No, I think you listing this imaginary town you keep citing that 'costs less than an apartment', along with all the jobs available for those who move there, might prove you aren't just making up crap as you go.
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Reply #38 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:08am
 
Ah, that town.

You also claimed in this thread that it does not exist, and I responded with several examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/50#50
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Reply #39 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:54am
 
Housing availability… there’s the problem….
I recall when they were in abundance and rent was competitively low.
At times I recall the house/s being empty for 4-6-8 weeks before the agent got some drop kick in.
And then we’ve had the odd house of two that was slightly damaged, rubbish left behind, rent not paid …
Then there were some tenants that were good, respecting they had roof over their heads.
In 30 years of what we experienced, I could probably write a book.

Now there’s a shortage of rental properties.
A visiting friend recently told us she can’t get a loan because of her age (62) and she, like us, had proven beyond doubt, of ability to handle money /investment/repayments etc but we can’t borrow either.
So those of us that want to buy properties to rent, can’t.
Those few remaining rentals are taken up quickly.
Most of us older gen that rented houses out are selling and mostly it’s not investors buying… it’s owner/occupiers.
And why not, since renting hikes now match mortgage repayments.

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Reply #40 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 5:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:08am:
Ah, that town.

You also claimed in this thread that it does not exist, and I responded with several examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/50#50


no, you listed a town that was for sale several years ago, another $6 million town (not sure what sort of apartment you live in)  and no job opportunities for either of them. Not quite the same thing as buying 'a town for less than an apartment' as a way to beat affordability in the property market now is it. I think it's time you got out your crayons and started again.
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Reply #41 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:04pm
 
Too many people.
Not enough houses.

What CAN be done?

Build more houses, import fewer people. No capacity for the former, wacist to limit immigration.

So.... paralysis.



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Reply #42 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:08pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 7:08am:
Ah, that town.

You also claimed in this thread that it does not exist, and I responded with several examples:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1712561086/50#50


no, you listed a town that was for sale several years ago, another $6 million town (not sure what sort of apartment you live in)  and no job opportunities for either of them. Not quite the same thing as buying 'a town for less than an apartment' as a way to beat affordability in the property market now is it. I think it's time you got out your crayons and started again.


As far as I know it is still for sale. As are others. For less than the price of an inner city apartment. Exactly like I said. I do not know how to explain your confusion on the matter.
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Reply #43 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Too many people.
Not enough houses.

What CAN be done?

Build more houses, import fewer people. No capacity for the former, wacist to limit immigration.

So.... paralysis.





But that's not how it works Frank.
It's all about creating a massive population of extreme poverty which allows a minority of brain cells to rule at the top like a gay-hierarchy of inbred uber rich.

Australia's British infused 'Egalitarian' middle-class culture is in the way of that.
...the more Australia embraces the American way (under the Media narrative) - the more it will be 'like' America.
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Reply #44 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:24pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Too many people.
Not enough houses.

What CAN be done?

Build more houses, import fewer people. No capacity for the former, wacist to limit immigration.

So.... paralysis.





Once upon a time, we had housing commission built by TAFE apprentices under supervision of competent teachers.

Not only were houses built quickly and cheaply but a pipeline of trades were trained.

Win, win, win.

I believe back to the future could be a answer.

We also need to have reasonable expectations.

I can’t afford what I want or where I prefer to live but given the opportunity of affordable housing I may in the future have the opportunity to move to my favourite area’s.

I’m happy too move out west if I can secure a reasonable rental and work.

Is housing a fundamental right for Australians  or is it now a luxury for the rich?

Why are stadiums priorities for governments rather than shelter?




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