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Reply #165 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:50pm:
It sounds like the judge is giving him a lighter sentence because he is a repeat offender.


“culturally-appropriate” sentencing?

Judge Durrant is as weak as piss.
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Reply #166 - Apr 17th, 2025 at 6:26pm
 
Perth’s new airport runway and developments on the holiday island of Rottnest are among billions of dollars worth of projects and government works facing delays after the Aboriginal corporation recognised for its cultural heritage work across the metropolitan area imploded.

The Whadjuk Aboriginal Corporation – the representative corporation for all traditional owners of Perth and surrounds – has been cut off from the money that flows from Australia’s biggest native title settlement following months of tumult.

Perpetual, the trustee of the Noongar Boodja Trust established as part of the historic $1.3bn settlement struck by former Liberal premier Colin Barnett, on Monday gave the corporation a suspension notice, telling the three remaining board members to go into administration.

Chaos within Whadjuk has included a months-long stalemate during which two people insisted they were both the chairperson, and surprise redundancies last month that left the corporation with just one paid staff member.

In a dramatic climax to the conflict, at the end of last month, police were called to the Whadjuk offices of in the southern Perth suburb of Applecross to remove Noongar grandmother Rosemary Walley, who had been appointed chairperson in November 2023.

However, Noongar man Reg Yarran told her he was now the chair. “I got up and I went to the door and I said hello to the police,” Ms Walley, 60, said.  “One of them told me ‘we’ve been called for you, you have to leave’. “There were four police officers there to tell me to go.  They were not rude but they said if you go back in there we will have to charge you with misconduct.”

In subsequent correspondence seen by The Australian, Whadjuk told councils and other proponents of projects across Perth that it had entered an arrangement with a private company which would do the Aboriginal cultural and heritage work previously done by corporation staff. The Australian has been told this caused confusion in some cases.

News that Whadjuk’s trust funding had been suspended has created anxiety across WA’s government and industry.

The mayor of one metropolitan council, who asked not to be named in order to speak freely about sensitive matters, told The Australian that all the council’s Aboriginal heritage work was now halted. This included public spaces where relevant approvals for development had been obtained but heritage monitoring was a condition.
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Reply #167 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:28am
 
The Aboriginal chairman of Whadjuk, the corporation established to deliver Australia’s biggest native title settlement, has been accused of screaming at his chief executive, telling her she had “better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice”.

A fellow Whadjuk board member also allegedly shouted at Lisa Dobrin, who is not Aboriginal: “I’m sick of you white people … sit down and shut up.

The Australian has been told of allegations of intimidation, threats and wild workplace scenes involving the three remaining ­directors at Whadjuk, the largest of six Aboriginal corporations created to distribute the benefits of the $1.3bn southwest native title settlement in Perth and the state’s southwest.

Instead, Whadjuk, which represents the approximately 30,000 Noongars living in and close to Perth, is locked in a stalemate with trustees who say it needs a special administrator and elections to ­appoint a new board.
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Reply #168 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:52am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:28am:
The Aboriginal chairman of Whadjuk, the corporation established to deliver Australia’s biggest native title settlement, has been accused of screaming at his chief executive, telling her she had “better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice”.

A fellow Whadjuk board member also allegedly shouted at Lisa Dobrin, who is not Aboriginal: “I’m sick of you white people … sit down and shut up.

The Australian has been told of allegations of intimidation, threats and wild workplace scenes involving the three remaining ­directors at Whadjuk, the largest of six Aboriginal corporations created to distribute the benefits of the $1.3bn southwest native title settlement in Perth and the state’s southwest.

Instead, Whadjuk, which represents the approximately 30,000 Noongars living in and close to Perth, is locked in a stalemate with trustees who say it needs a special administrator and elections to ­appoint a new board.


Her name gets mentioned - why not the racist directors yelling and threatening her?

$1.3 billion? No wonder all those creamy Noongars are carrying on like pork chops.

With that type of cash to be handed out works out around $43,000 each for 30,000 - those on Govt welfare should lose it for 12 months.
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Reply #169 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 11:50am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:28am:
The Aboriginal chairman of Whadjuk, the corporation established to deliver Australia’s biggest native title settlement, has been accused of screaming at his chief executive, telling her she had “better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice”.

A fellow Whadjuk board member also allegedly shouted at Lisa Dobrin, who is not Aboriginal: “I’m sick of you white people … sit down and shut up.

The Australian has been told of allegations of intimidation, threats and wild workplace scenes involving the three remaining ­directors at Whadjuk, the largest of six Aboriginal corporations created to distribute the benefits of the $1.3bn southwest native title settlement in Perth and the state’s southwest.

Instead, Whadjuk, which represents the approximately 30,000 Noongars living in and close to Perth, is locked in a stalemate with trustees who say it needs a special administrator and elections to ­appoint a new board.


Her name gets mentioned - why not the racist directors yelling and threatening her?

$1.3 billion? No wonder all those creamy Noongars are carrying on like pork chops.

With that type of cash to be handed out works out around $43,000 each for 30,000 - those on Govt welfare should lose it for 12 months.


After parting on bad terms with two chief executives in five months, Whadjuk has had no chief executive since Ms Dobrin’s last day at the office on February 6. On that day, staff in the Whadjuk building in the southern Perth suburb of Applecross allegedly witnessed a dramatic escalation that began with chairman Reg Yarran becoming angry that board minutes were not ready ahead of schedule.

Ms Dobrin suggested that she, Mr Yarran and fellow board member Geri Hayden move to a meeting room where Mr Yarran and Ms Hayden allegedly shouted at Ms Dobrin until she asked them to leave.

According to allegations in a letter to Whadjuk from Metaxas Legal, representing Ms Dobrin: “Mr Yarran stood up and refused to leave and was screaming at my client whilst pointing his finger towards her face, telling her she had better watch herself and was on notice and to shut up.

“The shouting by Mr Yarran continued into the open-plan area where the staff were present and my client requested again that the directors leave or they would be removed from the building,” the letter claims. “Mr Yarran continued to shout at my client that ‘You’re on notice, woman! You’re on notice, woman!’ whilst leaning over my client and pointing his finger ­toward her face.”

At this point, Ms Hayden stood in between Mr Yarran and Ms Dobrin. She pulled Mr Yarran’s arm to try to move him away, according to the letter.

“Mr Yarran was being pushed out of the open-plan area by Ms Hayden whilst he shouted across the room at my client that she ‘Better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice’,” the letter states. “My client responded to Mr Yarran, informing him not to call her ‘woman’ to which he shouted again: ‘You’re on notice, woman. You’re on notice, woman’.”

When Mr Yarran and Ms Hayden left the building, staff locked the door.
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Reply #170 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm
 
Time for this 'native title' bullshit to be settled for good.  Nobody else gets to claim 'ancestral land ownership' and get a deal just because their ancestors might have walked there.

Total insanity.

It's 2025 - not 1787.

Who funded this .corporation?  Who pays its paid staff?

What has the WA government done to its people...

This is what you'll get in spades if AlboGroup get back in.
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Reply #171 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 9:38am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 12:17pm:
Time for this 'native title' bullshit to be settled for good.  Nobody else gets to claim 'ancestral land ownership' and get a deal just because their ancestors might have walked there.

Total insanity.

It's 2025 - not 1787.

Who funded this .corporation?  Who pays its paid staff?

What has the WA government done to its people...

This is what you'll get in spades if AlboGroup get back in.


I agree.
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Reply #172 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 1:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 11:50am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:28am:
The Aboriginal chairman of Whadjuk, the corporation established to deliver Australia’s biggest native title settlement, has been accused of screaming at his chief executive, telling her she had “better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice”.

A fellow Whadjuk board member also allegedly shouted at Lisa Dobrin, who is not Aboriginal: “I’m sick of you white people … sit down and shut up.

The Australian has been told of allegations of intimidation, threats and wild workplace scenes involving the three remaining ­directors at Whadjuk, the largest of six Aboriginal corporations created to distribute the benefits of the $1.3bn southwest native title settlement in Perth and the state’s southwest.

Instead, Whadjuk, which represents the approximately 30,000 Noongars living in and close to Perth, is locked in a stalemate with trustees who say it needs a special administrator and elections to ­appoint a new board.


Her name gets mentioned - why not the racist directors yelling and threatening her?

$1.3 billion? No wonder all those creamy Noongars are carrying on like pork chops.

With that type of cash to be handed out works out around $43,000 each for 30,000 - those on Govt welfare should lose it for 12 months.


After parting on bad terms with two chief executives in five months, Whadjuk has had no chief executive since Ms Dobrin’s last day at the office on February 6. On that day, staff in the Whadjuk building in the southern Perth suburb of Applecross allegedly witnessed a dramatic escalation that began with chairman Reg Yarran becoming angry that board minutes were not ready ahead of schedule.

Ms Dobrin suggested that she, Mr Yarran and fellow board member Geri Hayden move to a meeting room where Mr Yarran and Ms Hayden allegedly shouted at Ms Dobrin until she asked them to leave.

According to allegations in a letter to Whadjuk from Metaxas Legal, representing Ms Dobrin: “Mr Yarran stood up and refused to leave and was screaming at my client whilst pointing his finger towards her face, telling her she had better watch herself and was on notice and to shut up.

“The shouting by Mr Yarran continued into the open-plan area where the staff were present and my client requested again that the directors leave or they would be removed from the building,” the letter claims. “Mr Yarran continued to shout at my client that ‘You’re on notice, woman! You’re on notice, woman!’ whilst leaning over my client and pointing his finger ­toward her face.”

At this point, Ms Hayden stood in between Mr Yarran and Ms Dobrin. She pulled Mr Yarran’s arm to try to move him away, according to the letter.

“Mr Yarran was being pushed out of the open-plan area by Ms Hayden whilst he shouted across the room at my client that she ‘Better watch out, woman, as you’re on notice’,” the letter states. “My client responded to Mr Yarran, informing him not to call her ‘woman’ to which he shouted again: ‘You’re on notice, woman. You’re on notice, woman’.”

When Mr Yarran and Ms Hayden left the building, staff locked the door.



A lot of arse covering and lies being told by Mr. Yarran.

Holding meetings without a quorum - sacking staff & employing an outside agency Moodjar Consultancy  whose majority owner Len Collard is heavily connected to Whadjuk therefore creating a conflict of interest in that consultancy receiving funds.

Something that Yarran, Hayden did not appreciate being told by 2 CEOs and a special expert financial officer.

I hope Ms Dobrins lawyers take him & Geri Hayden on for his threats and she for her racist comment.

With this sort of money these people need to held to account and made open to independent scrutiny/audit like any other corporation/business.

Afterall - it's not really "their" money - it's Govt/taxpayer money.
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Reply #173 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 11:36pm
 
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Reply #174 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 8:06am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 5:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 20th, 2024 at 1:11pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 20th, 2024 at 6:38am:
You're dealing with a mentally unstable person.
Some get very repeatative, as they do in this forum.


I am triggered by these sort of people just repeating themselves over and over. Brian just loads the forums with these articles and does not show any sense to add his own thoughts to the article, other than a "thumbs up" or "cool" emoji. And when we tear the article to threads, Brian has no other way of defence other than to post memes.
Perhaps it was the years of fighting other posters on other forums that led Brian to lazily post these memes as a form of response.


I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What "impossible levels" Brian?


Brian?
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Reply #175 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 9:10am
 
Maybe we should all just yawn 🥱 at the Aborigines and call their stone aged culture the Twilight Zone rather than the Dreamtime?
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Reply #176 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 11:51am
 
It isn't that the behavioural standards are impossible for Aborigines - many succeed admirably in life without resorting to this chip on the shoulder nonsense .... it's mostly a matter of choices in life and often early upbringing.

Notice how the 'stolen generations' are mostly polite, civilised, reasonable etc?  Saved from an early death or a living death can work wonders for the individual.
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Reply #177 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 29th, 2025 at 8:06am:
freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 5:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 1:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 20th, 2024 at 1:11pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 20th, 2024 at 6:38am:
You're dealing with a mentally unstable person.
Some get very repeatative, as they do in this forum.


I am triggered by these sort of people just repeating themselves over and over. Brian just loads the forums with these articles and does not show any sense to add his own thoughts to the article, other than a "thumbs up" or "cool" emoji. And when we tear the article to threads, Brian has no other way of defence other than to post memes.
Perhaps it was the years of fighting other posters on other forums that led Brian to lazily post these memes as a form of response.


I post these memes because I am fed up with arguing with fools who do not know anything about the topic we are discussing, UnSub.  Some people refuse to learn, to acknowledge new research and findings and just stick to their old Racist beliefs.  They are WOFTAMs.  They are why Australia is holding Indigenous people to impossible levels of behaviour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What "impossible levels" Brian?


Brian?


I want to know more about this 'new research and findings' - is that - you know - Pascoe's nonsense and fantasies?  The Golden Temples and such.. the vast storage for grains and such, the making of bread from pounded grass seeds (not nutritious to humans - ask the Russian gulag inhabitants who added grass to their 'rations' to fill them out), the amazing trade routes and trade across hundreds of baking, dry miles to swap painstakingly ground stone basins for some fish at the other end - fish they could catch once they got there through the spears and boomerang showers...

Nobody until around 1967 PP (Pascoe Period) thought much about the remaining few wandering hunter-gatherers - people were content and immer4sed in making their own way - sadly - the Second Greatest Generation - The Boomers who in many cases missed out on a lot - made life far too easy for their offspring and created the environment in which borderline thinking could flourish...  now look at the joint.

Men can be women - women can be men - women can do and have it all (only with countless artificial props to hold them up there) - society/culture is better off being destroyed along with families (which ONLY are a sacred species among the more recent immigrants and especially among The Patriarchals - who thus flourish while Aussies die in Kramer v Kramer - Wars Of The Roses) ... endless division and conflict is better for the society as a whole.... and disintegration of the Way Things Were is the best path forward - although it's really downward..

All this has lead to the rise and rise of the Infantile Extremist Thinking Quasi-Educated Dorks - of which there are some prime examples here - I have more time for that little bastard Smith who simply knows no better than I have for those who claim 'education' and yet harvest and promote the most bizarre theories of how this country should run a BE run.....

Let me tell you this - it will NEVER be run along the lines of ANY despotism of right or more dangerously left or by any thieving bunch of parasites or by the kind who think nothing of emptying the national treasury to stash in some tax haven to guarantee their outrageous incomes for life - not on my watch.
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Reply #178 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:17pm
 
BTW - as an aside .... anyone else notice how the Borderline Thinking In Place of Reality all started with the advent of feminism, alongside the sudden mass introduction of women to universities under Whitlam's free education, since most men were tied up working the industries etc to support their families and most had not the time, energy or focus to do a degree as well- something men are still obliged to do even when they do not HAVE those families and now in an environment when they are pushed out of genuine equal education and employment opportunities - and the sudden perceived 'need' to 'explore' all these apparently amazing and endless 'social science' ideas?

That kind of 'thinking' is what gives rise to not only the Pascoes of this world - but also to those cloud-educated followers of fools without the mental acuity to see how utterly fantastic those kinds of ideas and conclusions are... and many of those occupy places in government - either elect or in The Shadow Government of public service ... and if you do not know by now the true situation of the PS ... I can't save you.  I've told you  all over and over.... and now we have the realisation that EVERY election here is a Stolen Election via the half-hidden under many rocks 'preference voting' ... wherein a third of the vote can secure a party a two-thirds majority in the Houses DESPITE the will of the people.
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Reply #179 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 8:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 8:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 3:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 3:18pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 1:31pm:
Brian would you like to explain for us why you think it is impossible for aborigines to live up to the same expectations as everyone else?


I will answer your questions, Freediver when you answer mine.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Do you think they are genetically inferior, or do you think it is culturally ingrained 'learned helplessness' from being treated as inferior by generations of limp wristed woke dogooders?


I will answer your questions, Freediver when you answer mine.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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