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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #30 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 6:02pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:

You are making it up as you go along John

you're a genuine retard you know that

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australias-first-home...

John did it ever occur to you that the cost of building the house might determine the price of the house? Or are you somehow impervious to this kind of logic? Do you think the price depends only on the events you were exposed to as a real estate agent?

If the homeless are to obtain housing, do you think they will go straight into first home ownership, or rent from one of those investors you are so jealous of? Straight answer please, not your usual gibberish.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #32 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 6:34pm You're both dumb as dogsh it John Smith wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 5:48pm: freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:18pm: And if the homeless are to obtain housing, do you think they will go straight into first home ownership, or rent from one of those investors you are so jealous of? no you dumbarse
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53255 At my desk.	Re: Tent Cities Reply #33 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:59pm Jasin wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 6:10pm: Smith is too bent to give a straight answer. As is little pink Peccary. He didn't even understand the question.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #34 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:37pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:59pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 6:10pm: Smith is too bent to give a straight answer. As is little pink Peccary. He didn't even understand the question. Sure I did. That's why i answered. But for some reason you appear to struggle to understand what 'no' means.
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #35 - Apr 10^th, 2024 at 1:25am

Well this deteriorated quickly.

On topic if our issue is one of housing supply perhaps we need to look away from our coastline and at our interior?

This is from a article regarding “ The line”-

A tall and narrow stripe of a city more than 105 miles long, teeming with 9 million residents and running entirely on renewable energy — that's the vision Saudi Arabia's leaders have for The Line, part of a "giga-project" that will reshape the kingdom's northwest.

Newly revealed design concepts show a futuristic walled city — its open interior is enclosed on both sides by a mirrored façade — stretching from the Red Sea eastward across the desert and into a mountain range.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53255 At my desk.	Re: Tent Cities Reply #36 - Apr 10^th, 2024 at 8:01am With some people, you have to avoid asking compound questions. Say for example if they have some kind of handicap which means they can only conveniently give yes or no answers. Also John Smith.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #37 - Apr 10^th, 2024 at 8:55am just because you struggle to understand what 'yes' and 'no' mean FD.
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #38 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:15am

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

Sure we are. There are numerous kit homes that are relatively inexpensive. Hell, you can whack a transportable on a block of land ... if you can afford the block of land. And the amenities.

Whoops. Land value. Bummer.

Wonder what's been driving that up then? And why there are so many with so much and so many with nothing at all. Seems, i dunno, inequitable?

What do you think the reasons for that are Fleadriver, now we've dispensed with the cost of building the actual house being prohibitive.

I mean, that's just silly. They literally give away transportables for the cost of moving them in some instances. Reckon a bank loan would stretch to hiring a truck?

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #39 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:28am

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Sure we are. There are numerous kit homes that are relatively inexpensive. Hell, you can whack a transportable on a block of land ... if you can afford the block of land. And the amenities.

And council approval. Have you looked into how much that costs, and whether the council would actually approve it?

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Whoops. Land value. Bummer.

There is plenty of cheap land available in Australia. You don't have to live near the CBD of the state capital.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #40 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:29am

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:28am:

[quote]Sure we are. There are numerous kit homes that are relatively inexpensive. Hell, you can whack a transportable on a block of land ... if you can afford the block of land. And the amenities.

And council approval. Have you looked into how much that costs, and whether the council would actually approve it?

So, it's not just that house building is too expensive then? Agreed. Thanks.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36398 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #41 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:30am freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:28am: Whoops. Land value. Bummer. There is plenty of cheap land available in Australia. You don't have to live near the CBD of the state capital. [/quote] Sure. All the poor should live in the desert.
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #42 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:30am

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2024 at 1:25am:

Well this deteriorated quickly.

On topic if our issue is one of housing supply perhaps we need to look away from our coastline and at our interior?

This is from a article regarding “ The line”-

A tall and narrow stripe of a city more than 105 miles long, teeming with 9 million residents and running entirely on renewable energy — that's the vision Saudi Arabia's leaders have for The Line, part of a "giga-project" that will reshape the kingdom's northwest.

Newly revealed design concepts show a futuristic walled city — its open interior is enclosed on both sides by a mirrored façade — stretching from the Red Sea eastward across the desert and into a mountain range.

It's an option. But what people call 'homelessness' of me when I was out and about, I called 'Happy Camping'.
In other words - I found it fun, a challenge and a politically liberal feeling.

No way would I camp in some Tent City - you're just asking for trouble from people who made their own trouble being there and are there to 'sponge' and 'scab' from the City around them with 'emotional guilt' for their plight.
Nor would I really hang out in some Tent Village out in the Regional or Rural areas - again, still asking for trouble the moment you leave your tent for the day and to come back to it being ransacked.
Still, people prefer to do so and enjoy so, etc. Let alone don't have the choice.

Me. The Bush is the place to be. And to be in the Bush, means - 'in the Bush' where I can roam naked and run wild and the best things in life are free.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #43 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:35am

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So, it's not just that house building is too expensive then? Agreed. Thanks.

You are confused Mothra.

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Sure. All the poor should live in the desert.

You don't have to live in the desert to get cheap land. Even along the coastal strip east of the divide that we seem to cling to, we have an extremely sparse population density. There are entire towns for sale for less than the cost of an inner city apartment.

Have you actually looked into the costs and regulations you need to follow Mothra, or are you just having a whinge about things you know nothing about?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36398 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #44 - Apr 12^th, 2024 at 8:37am Can i ask you a question, Fleadriver?
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