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Tent Cities
Apr 8^th, 2024 at 5:24pm

Buggar - I thought there was a strand on this one.....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/rough-sleepers-in-tent-city-face-uncertainty-as-upcomi...

"Dozens of Aussies sleeping rough in a so-called "tent city" may now face having to forfeit the only place they call home, with the park they inhabit set to be cleared next month to make way for a festival.

There are currently some 60 tents at Musgrave Park in South Brisbane, which has become known as a makeshift community for those in desperate need of housing. Residents of the park say they don't know what will become of their home when the Paniyiri Festival comes to town, but according to council, "there are strict processes in place to ensure occupied tents aren't removed".

Paul Slater, who runs the Northwest Community Group — a charity to help the homeless — sets up stands twice a week to give away food, clothes, toiletries and tents at the park. Previously speaking to Yahoo News Australia, Slater said the pop-up community reflects the overall dire state of the nation's housing crisis.

Slater said the country is in "a housing emergency" and that "these people aren't here by choice". Extortionate rental prices and a lack of suitable housing have been blamed for Australia's rise in homelessness, with wild weather also posing several safety concerns for those in the park too, Slater explained.

"They're often praying for anything to help them get out of the situation that they're in," he said. "They get stuff stolen, their tents get damaged and they can't sleep because of the noise."

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #1 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 5:57pm Oh what a sordid web we weave.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53227 At my desk.	Re: Tent Cities Reply #2 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 6:01pm The article says there are 60 tents in the "city", but they could only get 3 or 4 of them in a photo. Nice looking tents. Do you think they would mind if I pulled up with a camper trailer?
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Daves2017 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 3382 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #3 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm Homelessness is everywhere. I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended). I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #4 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59026 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #5 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:59pm But we have a trans visibility day. First things first.
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Daves2017 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 3382 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #6 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:00pm Frank wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:59pm: But we have a trans visibility day. First things first. 😔 sigh
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #7 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #8 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #9 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 10:51pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

From my POV - nobody goes into a business in order to make a loss year after y7ear and thus incur NG. Having had businesses myself I've had NG ONCE - if you are into NG EVERY year for thirty years of a mortgage - you should have been wound up.

Simple - then there is Concessional Capital Gains Tax - since the objective of encouraging 'investment' in housing was to produce greater supply - and that has manifestly failed despite the encouragement of Concessional CGT which was supposed to make it worthwhile for an 'investor' to sell - it no longer has a place in the calculations.

Furthermore - receiving both CCGT and NG is double dipping against accumulated profit, thus turning a modest profit of 4-5% annually into a mega profit ... a super profit which should be taxed.

Can ye hear 'em, Morag Cameron? Can ye hear the pipes callin'? An' the drums.... d'ye hear the sounds of battle comin'.....

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #11 - Apr 8^th, 2024 at 11:42pm

They're not 'Homeless'.
They're 'Bludgers'. Hanging around in Tents in the middle of a City pushing the 'emotional blackmail' card to extort a guilt-ridden hand-out from the Public or Council.

Anyone who is 'truly' homeless might feel ashamed of their situation and stay out of the public eye. Especially when they feel so vulnerable.

Others take advantage of the positive side of it and go out into the wonderful country and rural landscapes like Happy Campers. Enjoying the fresh air, not monoxide in city-central.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #12 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 7:52am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 10:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

From my POV - nobody goes into a business in order to make a loss year after y7ear and thus incur NG. Having had businesses myself I've had NG ONCE - if you are into NG EVERY year for thirty years of a mortgage - you should have been wound up.

Simple - then there is Concessional Capital Gains Tax - since the objective of encouraging 'investment' in housing was to produce greater supply - and that has manifestly failed despite the encouragement of Concessional CGT which was supposed to make it worthwhile for an 'investor' to sell - it no longer has a place in the calculations.

Furthermore - receiving both CCGT and NG is double dipping against accumulated profit, thus turning a modest profit of 4-5% annually into a mega profit ... a super profit which should be taxed.

Can ye hear 'em, Morag Cameron? Can ye hear the pipes callin'? An' the drums.... d'ye hear the sounds of battle comin'.....

D’uh, negative gearing is there to reduce the tax on the wealthy by turning highly taxed income into lowly taxed capital. House hoarding is why rents are so bloody high.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #13 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:13am

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

What controls housing prices is the price of building a new house. Government regulations do a lot to push that price up. We may have the most expensive houses in the world, but we also have the largest, most elaborately capitalised houses in the world. But builders do not charge more for their labour on account of cgt laws.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #14 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:20am

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 7:52am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 10:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

From my POV - nobody goes into a business in order to make a loss year after y7ear and thus incur NG. Having had businesses myself I've had NG ONCE - if you are into NG EVERY year for thirty years of a mortgage - you should have been wound up.

Simple - then there is Concessional Capital Gains Tax - since the objective of encouraging 'investment' in housing was to produce greater supply - and that has manifestly failed despite the encouragement of Concessional CGT which was supposed to make it worthwhile for an 'investor' to sell - it no longer has a place in the calculations.

Furthermore - receiving both CCGT and NG is double dipping against accumulated profit, thus turning a modest profit of 4-5% annually into a mega profit ... a super profit which should be taxed.

Can ye hear 'em, Morag Cameron? Can ye hear the pipes callin'? An' the drums.... d'ye hear the sounds of battle comin'.....

D’uh, negative gearing is there to reduce the tax on the wealthy by turning highly taxed income into lowly taxed capital. House hoarding is why rents are so bloody high.

Rubbish ... what or who do you class as wealthy?

There are lots of Mum & Dad property investors out there .... they're not house hoarding.

And the way tenancy laws have been slanted many are divesting themselves of their properties because the investment is costing more money in maintenance.(tenants trashing the place)

I think Capital Gains tax is as abhorrent a tax as Death Taxes and should be abolished.(The only certainties in life are death & taxes)

Why should the Govt make any gain in the investment you have taken the financial risk for?

Do they cover you for any investment losses?

Both Negative Gearing and Capital Gains tax should be scrapped.

Most property investments are made as being a form of "superannuation" for buyers in their later lives.

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