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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #15 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:24am

Negative gearing applies the same way to all types of investment, not just houses. So it does not encourage people to invest in housing more or less than anything else. If you removed it from housing, it would push prices up, not down. That would mean more homeless people.

When ignorance dictates economic policy, the outcome is invariably the opposite to that intended.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #16 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:30am

This guy is getting a lot of attention lately:

https://twitter.com/purplepingers

Not sure if this link will work but it shows his most recent posts... because Space Karen (Elon Musk) has stuffed X/Twitter to the point where you can't read anything recent unless you have an account or a direct link.

https://nitter.poast.org/purplepingers/with_replies

He was even on The Project the other day.

Fury As TikToker Posts Vacant Property Addresses

The man behind s*it Rentals, Jordan van den Berg, AKA Purple Pingers, has angered Americans after he started collecting addresses of vacant properties and publishing them to encourage those without a home to squat in them amid the housing crisis.

He joins us to explain what's going on.

He's been upsetting Americans too. Someone even tried reporting him to the FBI. Grin

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11139 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #17 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:37am What's wrong with housing in Australia (and the US and other countries) summed up in a single Tweet. Disgraceful.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53254 At my desk.	Re: Tent Cities Reply #18 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:50am Carl D are you saying that an 80 year person with dementia who has no family to look after her should be left to die on her own?
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11139 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #19 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:54am freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:50am: Carl D are you saying that an 80 year person with dementia who has no family to look after her should be left to die on her own? Huh? No, I'm not. But "Landlord's Victoria" (D'Artagnan Aramis) apparently is. What an odd question to ask.
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #20 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 10:00am

Carl D wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:50am:

Carl D are you saying that an 80 year person with dementia who has no family to look after her should be left to die on her own?

Huh?

No, I'm not.

But "Landlord's Victoria" (D'Artagnan Aramis) apparently is.

Do you believe everything you read on the internet?

Where does it even say Aramis wants her to be left to die on her own?

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11139 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #21 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 10:15am I'm not playing your silly games today, freediver. Or any other day for that matter. And if you've been following my posts here over the years you should already know that. Have a great day.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53254 At my desk.	Re: Tent Cities Reply #22 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 10:22am Your post doesn't even make sense Carl. Did it ever occur to you that it might be BS? Or do you just regurgitate whatever propaganda makes you feel morally superior? How many 80 year olds with dementia and no family support do you know who live on their own?
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #23 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 12:40pm

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:13am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

What controls housing prices is the price of building a new house. Government regulations do a lot to push that price up. We may have the most expensive houses in the world, but we also have the largest, most elaborately capitalised houses in the world. But builders do not charge more for their labour on account of cgt laws.

First home buyers are constantly outbid by investors. That has little to do with the cost of building and everything to do with cgt and ng laws.

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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #24 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 12:44pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 12:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:13am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Homelessness is everywhere.

I thought by voting for Albo and Wong it would be addressed ( pun not intended).

I was wrong, it’s worse than ever. I assume our leaders just can’t see it as they fly on trips above us?

Apart from supply issues, for which there is no short term fix, nothing will ease our housing shortage. The two policies they need to change they won't touch.
Labor went to an election with policies to reform capital gains and negative gearing and in doing so lost an unlosable election. Labor won't touch these policies now. Not until those who remember losing are replaced by those to young to remember.

Homelessness has nothing to do with negative gearing. If anything, negative gearing reduces homelessness. The reason there is not more cheap housing available is that we are not allowed to build cheaper housing.

The reason there is so much homelessness is because our housing is some of the most expensive in the developed world. A large driver in pushing up prices is cgt and ng laws. I agree with the negative gearing rules, but I just don't think we can sustain them.

What controls housing prices is the price of building a new house. Government regulations do a lot to push that price up. We may have the most expensive houses in the world, but we also have the largest, most elaborately capitalised houses in the world. But builders do not charge more for their labour on account of cgt laws.

First home buyers are constantly outbid by investors. That has little to do with the cost of building and everything to do with cgt and ng laws.

You are confused John, on so many levels. A few auction results does not tell you whether removing negative gearing would result in more or less housing. Did it ever occur to you that the cost of building the house might determine the price of the house? Or do you think it depends only on the events you were exposed to as a real estate agent?

And if the homeless are to obtain housing, do you think they will go straight into first home ownership, or rent from one of those investors you are so jealous of?

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56855 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #25 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 1:56pm I'm thinking of setting up a massive tent. Fill it full of luxurious cushions and pillows... and a harem of concubines.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #26 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:02pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 12:44pm: You are confused John, it is you who is confused. And it's not just a few auction results, it's a consistent result over the last few years.
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Re: Tent Cities
Reply #27 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:18pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

You are confused John,

it is you who is confused.

And it's not just a few auction results, it's a consistent result over the last few years.

You are making it up as you go along John, and you do not even know what your made-up BS means anyway. Did it ever occur to you that the cost of building the house might determine the price of the house? Or do you think it depends only on the events you were exposed to as a real estate agent?

And if the homeless are to obtain housing, do you think they will go straight into first home ownership, or rent from one of those investors you are so jealous of?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #28 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 5:46pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:18pm: You are making it up as you go along John you're a genuine retard you know that https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australias-first-home...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Tent Cities Reply #29 - Apr 9^th, 2024 at 5:48pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 2:18pm: And if the homeless are to obtain housing, do you think they will go straight into first home ownership, or rent from one of those investors you are so jealous of? no you dumbarse
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