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Apr 5th, 2024 at 2:14pm
 
     Bruce Lehrmann’s new court case begins another session of reminders of his accusations of rape, many bored inner brain decision making women are no doubt enraged by.
     Many women having male partners, use they’re enraged emotions to begin arguments (which may have little to do with Bruce Lehrmann’s court case stories) with male partners, women and men using fight or flight inner brain (no rational restraints) causing a sense of justified dominate power.

     Having recently watched SBS shown Fargo season 1 episode 1, a wife is seen more than once arguing with her husband actor over his poor career choice poor earnings ability, wife using his brother’s better earnings better life style, her so much bullying behaviour, the husband actor gabs a hammer and murders his wife bashing her head in.

     The world population being around 8 billion, I’m sure many poor third world deemed over populated countries: Africa; Middle East; Asia... governments would want to get rid of many of they’re population’s poorer people, wanting people to migrate to first world countries: Europe; USA; Canada; Australia.

     For first world countries to make room for migrants from poor third world countries to enter first world countries above list, first world countries use propaganda tactics to stall, even reduce local populations birth rate.

     Reducing population growth tactics include many years of stressful brain punishing school education encouraging university controlled learning making up for some lost/repressed intelligence during high school years, which university and college learning soon began after compulsory draft ended drafting post WW2 baby boom generation youth into the Vietnam war, many military personnel don’t get married until after returning from military service in Vietnam, delaying first born child.
     Vietnam war responsible for many youth becoming addicted to opioids.

     Future generations becoming drug and alcohol addicted after stressful schooling ended (I argue school learning traumas need for medication) would consume youth into reduced need to marry to begin families.
     Delaying men and women’s need to start having families, reducing the years women can have children creates fewer children being born over people’s lifetime, tactics third world countries have little incentives to practice other than their own increased poverty.

     Getting young adults into long term debt using saving for a deposit low interest rate property purchasing, then raising interest rates, increasing cost of living, must have an effect on young adults family planing having children and the number of children born.

     Poor partner selection, prime time media programming induced human behaviour programming with a sense of dissatisfaction with opposite sexes, further delays child births.

     Hearing statements that women should seek a career in the building industry has me laughing at dumb suggestions. Most women are not built for heavy lifting needed to carry out building industry labours. Having heard such statements, I twice witnessed a young women wiring components on what seems to be a building site. Reality has electricians on building sites holding heavy drills drilling holes in wood studs etc. pulling cables through holes and conduits. Physical efforts would be more than most women would be able to cope and 8 hours of such work would also be unmanageable.
     Most women particularly women with poor schooling grades, I can easily assume would need to find a marriageable man, get married, have at least one child to lock her husband into long term financial responsibility, in order to avoid having to work in some boring tiresome low paying job, supporting herself. Many women may find such statements offensive.

     The Lehrmann rape case I recon having happened in the Canberra Federal Parliament House gives some reason the case must be repeatedly reported in news media as though the case has some sense of importance above all other similar news stories. I recon the story is contrived full of fabrications, fake news, propaganda, shock jocks use as distraction from more important news relevant to citizenry.
     Because the story came out of Federal Parliament House, politicians involved, one more democracy in action transparency story, display of ‘can’t keep secrets from citizenry, democracy open media transparency society’. NASA must have landed Apollo astronauts on the moon, can’t keep large numbers of people involved in 50 years ago moon landings never happened, secrets from people.

     Because there are young people whom believe “no man has walked on the moon”, media are reporting new news ( I say Are faked ) stories of countries landing spacecraft on the moon, planing to land men on the moon’s surface, in order to create beliefs amongst youthful doubters ‘men have previously walked on the moon’.

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Reply #1 - Apr 5th, 2024 at 3:23pm
 
Moon-men on drugs avoided child-birth trauma in schools for parliament to brain-rape migrants less interest rates.
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Reply #2 - Apr 5th, 2024 at 5:52pm
 
I can nev er forget that SBS program on 'domestic violence' - during which some poor bloke who did not come from an abusive background and was essentially non-violent - had a wife who did come from such a background, and she picked fights all the time (learned behaviour and expectation of the same violent response) until the husband responded in some way - at which point he got all the blame.

You see one hell of a lot of that - any man who has lived with a woman who 'feels' oppressed etc or who has had a harsh background, can tell you she causes all or most of the problems - and he wears it over and over.  Even cops these days are on to that one - pretty much - though some retain the same old prejudices and utter willingness to bash an undefending man to make themselves feel superior somehow.  In NSW the police force steadily weeded those out, but some still manage to sneak through, often imagining that a job in the country is somehow more than a phone call away from HQ.

Glen Innes was cleared out of a nest of such rogue cops, starting with the sergeant who ran the place - who was replaced by an educated and fair-minded commissioned Superintendent.

Anyway - my advice to all young men is to avoid such women - you will NEVER alter or 'heal' their damaged psyches, not matter how meaningful and decent you are.... and they will bring you down. 

That is one clear reason why so many young men simply avoid entanglements these days.... at the first sign of imbalance they are off like a shot from a gun... and good on them.  Imagine wasting your life's work on such beings - as I did......

The oddest thing about such women can be - not always - is that they (and many embattled men) actually take on the characteristics of their own 'oppressor' - even to timbre of voice.... it's like they are possessed by the spirit of the often now-deceased 'oppressor' parent or whatever - the Eld Gel here - the ex for whom I am carer now - when entering her self-created combats with me - actually lowers the timbre of her voice about two octaves!!!

She is unconsciously imitating HER 'oppressor' - her father the violent and abusive town drunk.  I, coming from a hugely abusive background myself - have seen my own brother take on the same characteristics - even using the same phrases with his kids and others - that our hugely abusive drunk 'father' used, PLUS certain behaviours and manners of speech from our own equally insane 'mother'.  His kids are all damaged in some ways... they have told me some of it and how they loved the short times they spent with me and my kid's mother at my farm.... but they reach a point where they just shut off.... can't take any more..... my kids and grand-kids, by contrast, are pretty balanced, smart and getting on well in the world without all that trouble.

It breaks my heart to see this with children - and when I view such things as Alice Springs and what I can clearly see is behind all that - it can move me to tears, so I avoid news of it unless researching to wake youse dopes up a little.

This is walking a tight rope every day of your life for any sane person.... watching yourself for any sign of falling into that abyss... becoming the monster you chose years ago to avoid ever being.  Even harder when you need to watch your 'partner' at the same time for the same things.  No wonder I often go to bed at night locked up rock hard in tension.

I'd far rather be with Clancy out there on the Overflow.... or somewhere deep in the country on my own..... or just once, in this old lifetime, with a decent woman with whom - as Billy Joel said - I can just talk and be comfortable.... not all passion is spent when you age... but you appreciate the better things more.

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Reply #3 - Apr 5th, 2024 at 6:08pm
 
Anyway - after this left fielder from a disgruntled ex employee who sank himself and Seven - it sounds like they've decided to settle.

Imagine being caught out destroying documents - a company credit card used to set up a visit from the house maids..... vague allegations of wandering into a random restaurant and buying a bag of coke to split with a credit card (man - how common is that in Cambra and goes totally unnoticed?  WTF?)) ....that's what happens when you get rid of a good employee and leave him/her with anger and bitterness over the treatment received in return for loyalty.... the universe hath its ways.

Shall we run a sweep about how much Bruce will cop for this one?

This would have to be the seediest case to ever come out of our 'national capital' (make that notional capital) and its inner workings.... and maybe Bruce did the deed - but we STILL have no way of knowing for sure one way or the other.

If you accept the US politics style character assassination directed at him, he is of low moral virtue - buying coke and paying for sheilas etc .... IF you accept those stories unconditionally... and who could when the actual 'witnesses' did not SEE anything?

I almost said last night this was like the BRS saga - so many Tercius style non-witnesses - NOBODY actually saw the deed done..... but my god how the sh
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t flies off the fan blades.  WADR to serving members ... and their suffering morale over 2 Sqn being LOBOed .... it comes down to hard and verifiable fact...  I do understand how you feel..... having suffered the same myself in a different manner, and after many years have decided that a 'mate' must be kicked under the bus for his misdeeds.
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Reply #4 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:00am
 
Gets murkier by the moment... where's Aussie?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/surprise-twist-after-inquiry-into-lehrm...

"A former judge has been referred to the ACT Integrity Commission following allegations about his conduct during an inquiry into the criminal prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann.

The territory commission confirmed on Friday it was considering allegations of misconduct against ex-Queensland jurist Walter Sofronoff.

The allegations relate to his dealings with journalists during a 2023 Board of Inquiry and his decision to release the final report to a journalist before it was handed to the ACT chief minister. "
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Reply #5 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:32am
 
This'll be good... Brucey accused of making deals for stories... Brittany well on the way long ago....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/excerpts-of-unpublished-memoir-by-britta...

This one gets better by the day... We Want Revelations for the movie project!!

Working titles..... ummm...... "Internals" .... internal something.... sort of rings of pussy, you know.... titillates the masses .... stirs their sweetener/sugar in their peccadilloes... "Ins and Outs - A Canberra Odyssey..."

You now - the Aborassic Park concept might be becoming a serious movie project..... a genuine 'what-if' alternate future....

Joel Coen said:- "It's all about the hat!"  Just take a good look at some of those Hollywood hats.... Al Pacino's pork pie in Godfadda, Tommy's black in Miller's Crossing, same wit' de Dane's, Val Kilmer's in Tombstone compared to Kurt Russell,  Kilmer's in Ghost and The Darkness and his impeccable British officer tailored suits, Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall contrast in Open Range....

They WORK on them hats in H'wood.... part of the character building.... why, Johnny Ringo - you look like someone just walked over your hat....
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Reply #6 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
'Ere,'ere- don't let Brucey Story die!  It's vastly important for bringing the New Media to heel and forcing on them proper values and standards.... Chanel #7 is biting the dust..... again - years after Today Tonight, a notorious pack of liars and charlatans, bit the dust.... I love it...... enjoying watching all those who had at me personally years ago biting the dust one after another...... sit by the flowing waters long enough ....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/the-fallout-from-bruce-lehrmann-s-interv...

One at a time..... one at a time ......................
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Reply #7 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 4:35pm
 

Female domestic violence committed against men seldom gets
reported in the media, and is even less reported to police and/or
acted upon.

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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 11:52pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Female domestic violence committed against men seldom gets
reported in the media, and is even less reported to police and/or
acted upon.

https://i.postimg.cc/qMJSB8qm/Screenshot-2024-04-06-at-17-32-13-11883-article-in...

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Doesn't gel with the figures developed that women INITIATE 62% of relationship violence, and cop 62% of the injuries as a result... that means those figures are more likely reversed.

I can assure you the Eld Gel hits and attacks me far more often than I do her... I content myself with stirring her when she gets off her trolley.... she comes from a dysfunctional all girl family which thinks heaven is doing what her sister once did - slug the old man sitting at the table with a frying pan because she was having one of HER paranoid tiffs.... the three remaining sisters (the oldest died young) are all the same basically and cannot run a relationship. Same happened with the kids' mother's family - all six girls and NONE of them stayed married.... disaster piled on disaster for everyone around them.

Make sure you choose very carefully after thorough testing..... and at the first sign of instability or insanity - go like the wind.  Young men are learning that.... young women are depressed and lonely.... young men have seen the results of 'feminism' and women trying to run the show..... they vote with their feet....

How do you handle hormone treatment?  If she complains too much I just get another one..... as we grow older we men have the advantage - there are fewer of us.... and many are turning to 25 yo Asian ladies for good, civilised, quiet company with good food...

Readez-vous this nonsense:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/gender-pain-gap-women-with-depression-fac...

Now there's a 'gender pain gap' - and all these years we've been told men are wooses with 'man flu' etc.....   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #9 - Apr 7th, 2024 at 12:27am
 
Dang!  The Oestrogen Gap!!!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/other/women-are-more-likely-to-be-addicted-to-s...


Women are more addicted to smoking their lungs out.... they suffer more pain as a result of depression etc.......... more women die of heart attacks..... so what's killing the Great Men of the West?  Boredom?  Nagging?   Too good a life? Shagged to death by young sheilas?
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Reply #10 - Apr 7th, 2024 at 11:03am
 
Well - not a single soul came out of this Higginsgate smelling of roses..... every last one of them is seedy to the max.

I'm interested in hearing 'the real Brittany' and not the over-emotional 'I felt suicidal' chick primed by her media handlers to lunge for the old and worn-out sympathy game instead of standing tall..... Bruce tried to stand tall but it's not in his build/body structure etc....

I recall Julia Gillard saying she was going to show her true self and not the media driven one - then went mad on 'feminism' and 'misogyny' as if those really meant something... that wasn't the REAL Gillard by a long shot ....  playing the victim is passe` these days... people are sick of victims begging on every media corner for a free ride and another handout... weeping about suicidal ideation and such.... one more unsuccessful attempt and they get a free set of steak knives!!

What about Scotty looking like a Black Bear in the woods and coming on like a stuffed teddy bear and apologising to St Brittany before the case - or that dopey equalities YAS ma'am arm in arm with the complainant before the trial.... talk about sabotaging the law and the entire case... no wonder they fitted up a jury malfeasance thing to just get rid of it.... no case anyway... but now they can still slag off at Bruce... his rep is shot to ribbons for life....

The only good thing to come out of this utter disaster from start to finish, including PH security ... is that a spotlight has been thrown over the whole madness down there.... now they need me to really sort them out and lay down the rules.... higher standards, please.... or get out....
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Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2024 at 3:38pm
 
I'll re-phrase that last - I hold no brief for Linda Reynolds whatsoever.... HOWEVER ... of all those with any involvement in this sordid set of issues she is the only one to have consistently sought that matters only be dealt with on the basis of provable fact - and not on rhetoric, emotion, suggestion, innuendo, character assassination and so forth.

You say - you prove.... simple.

Now then - to continue - lookee here... 'presumption of innocence' rebirthed....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/lehrmann-to-headline-speaking-event/ar-...

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"Bruce Lehrmann has landed a speaking slot at a $100-a-ticket ‘restoring the presumption of innocence’ conference, hosted by author and columnist Bettina Arndt.

“For decades our justice system has been tilted to favour ‘victims’, with the result that men and women are treated very differently – by police, the Family Court, judges and juries in the criminal law system,” Ms Arndt says on the event’s website.

“The presumption of innocence has been tossed aside – totally discarded by our biased media and undermined by regular legislative tampering with basic principles of justice,” Ms Arndt writes.

Ticket-holding attendees will listen to a speakers line up of expert lawyers and statisticians, the latter who will “expose how data on rape cases is misrepresented to downplay false allegations”, Ms Arndt says.

Mr Lehrmann will join the panel at the Sydney event in June, speaking to an audience set to pay between $100 to $120 for a ticket, with sandwiches and morning tea included.

Speaking about the abandoned trial against him for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins in Parliament House, Mr Lehrmann told The Daily Telegraph in August: “Given what the prosecution has done to me, I may never work again”.

Mr Lehrmann has always denied the allegation, and there have been no findings made against him. The charge was dropped after the trial was aborted due to juror misconduct.

“I’ve got lawyers that need to be paid, people who have supported me, like my mum and uncle, who need to be supported” he said at the time.

However, Ms Arndt says Mr Lehrmann will not be paid for the speaking role.

“As is customary at this type of professional gathering, NO ONE WILL BE PAID!,” she told NCA NewsWire.

“We are fundraising for the event to ensure people such as law students will be able to afford the ticket price.”

Mr Lehrmann was asked to speak “as a victim of trial by media”, Ms Arndt said, “since he is the best-known example of how the media has signed up to the #MeToo narrative, rather than doing their proper job”.

Mr Lehrmann is currently in the midst of another blockbuster trial; he has sued Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson for defamation regarding The Project’s reporting of Ms Higgins’ sexual assault allegation, with judgment expected to be delivered in the coming weeks. "
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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 11:43am
 
Brittany drugged On The Night!!!


Oh - not quite....... sorry .. got carried away with the media there....

"Brittany Higgins has told the federal court the suggestion by an AFP officer that she might have been drugged on the night she was allegedly raped should have been raised in the defamation trial.

Higgins filed a seven-page submission to the court on Tuesday after being invited by Justice Michael Lee last week to make final submissions concerning her credit before the judgment in Bruce Lehrmann’s defamation case against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson is handed down on Monday."


Suggestions.... there were hints and innuendoes..... by George this gets better by the day ... JUICY!!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/brittany-higgins-questions-whether-she-...
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Reply #14 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 5:25pm
 
Better and better - sounds like a Parthian Poof shot to me... or is that a parting poof shot?  His silence is deafening - I thought he said loud and clear he didn't have any Thai Rub or coke (man)... and why bother argue with utter and unproven nonsense anyway?

Why, you ask?  Because you cannot rely on the truth simply coming out and clear and utter nonsense allegations being set aside without even much thought (yeah - yer 'onnah - he tried to run the car over us! ... ummm - what car was that? He was walking down the street when you accosted him... DUH - sounds like a cop's fairy tale) .. you have to force truth to speak.. a shy person or an autistic one (many times) is at a disadvantage... someone bashed into silence as a kid is at a disadvantage, may mumble or not speak up* ... that's why I support Bettina Arndt in pushing for a restoration of 'innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt' as the hard core of law....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/major-lehrmann-trial-054100678.html

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ohh great, another thread where crappler gets to play victim again with ream after ream of posts to himself  Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 5:41pm:
ohh great, another thread where crappler gets to play victim again with ream after ream of posts to himself  Roll Eyes


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John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 5:41pm:
ohh great, another thread where crappler gets to play victim again with ream after ream of posts to himself  Roll Eyes


Reality is a hard thing to respond to with any sense, smith... as you know... you may be willing to sell your country out to pissy vested interests for your thirty pieces of silver - I'm not.

They shall not pass.... the rights of all citizens equally shall not go into the darkness without a fight....
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Reply #18 - Apr 14th, 2024 at 2:05pm
 
Oooooh - juicy!  Tomorrow is Bruce Day.... 15th April - will it become a national day of celebration for the defamed - or nothing?  If only St Brittany and the security guards had maintained the chain of evidence...... either way ........

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/bruce-lehrmann-and-brittany-higgins-sag...
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Reply #19 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:46pm
 
Bruce Lehrmann is now worse off than if he had brought no action at all....Sometimes it is better to quite whilst you are ahead....Lets hope this is the end of it!!!

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Defamation trial judge finds Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-15/bruce-lehrmann-defamation-trial-judgment/...
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Reply #20 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm
 

The judge says he raped her.

Who will be the first to defend him: aquascoot, Frank, Bobby ("He just wanted a root")?

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Reply #21 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm
 
Well - that's a 'civil' case for you - no hard evidence required, just an opinion.

What a pity none of them at the time preserved the chain of whatever evidence there was, so nobody will ever know the truth now.
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Reply #22 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm:
The judge says he raped her.

Who will be the first to defend him: aquascoot, Frank, Bobby ("He just wanted a root")?



Pity nobody saw fit to preserve the scene or any evidence, eh?  You do understand the difference?


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Mr Lehrmann is now up there with Bill Clinton/Monica and Donald Trump/ Jean. It's a clever career move.
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I wonder how he will go with the other rape case in Toowoomba QLD scheduled for June 2024?
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Reply #25 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:09pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
I wonder how he will go with the other rape case in Toowoomba QLD scheduled for June 2024?


Well - this softcock has undermined the defence there.... sucking up to the baying crowd at the doors of the court instead of carefully weighing what little evidence there was... just an opinion.... and off we'll go again with the St Brittany BS again.... without a shred of evidence.... and you softcocks out thee will applaud  as your grandsons are set up for the slaughter.

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Reply #26 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm
 
i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).
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Reply #27 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:13pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm:
The judge says he raped her.

Who will be the first to defend him: aquascoot, Frank, Bobby ("He just wanted a root")?



Pity nobody saw fit to preserve the scene or any evidence, eh?  You do understand the difference?




I understand that a judge has deemed him a rapist.

I also understand that there is an alarming amount of "men" in the forum who love to defend rapists.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:13pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 1:53pm:
The judge says he raped her.

Who will be the first to defend him: aquascoot, Frank, Bobby ("He just wanted a root")?



Pity nobody saw fit to preserve the scene or any evidence, eh?  You do understand the difference?




I understand that a judge has deemed him a rapist.

I also understand that there is an alarming amount of "men" in the forum who love to defend rapists.



Yeah - soft court assumptions can do that to a judge... left to form an opinion only without evidence.... hard work... so he's appeased the baying crowd that he imagines is just outside his door.... what's another bloke's life more or less in pursuit of the great revolution to free all mankind from.... ummmm ... what was it again?  Oh, yes - the likes of this softcock judge and his fellow real destroyers of the world...

He has become death - destroyer of words..... playing to the crowd and stirring it up like any school kid trying to push the envelope.... how far can we get today in the removal of ANY rights .... hmmm .... lessee now...........

Bet he's a a Laboriginal man.... there's your future for you.....  Undecided  Undecided  Undecided
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Reply #29 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:25pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).


Well I thought it was pretty obvious considering she was found half naked on the couch in the ministers office.

And even suggested afterwards she had been raped and he was then charged with rape before his court case was abandoned due to juror misconduct!


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Reply #30 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:27pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:25pm:
JC Denton wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).


Well I thought it was pretty obvious considering she was found half naked on the couch in the ministers office.

And even suggested afterwards she had been raped!





ok but that doesn't follow pal

i don't care eitherway they're both grubs
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Reply #31 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:31pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).


Under ACT Law - AS I SAID AT THE TIME IN MY NEUTRAL STANCE - sex with a drunk woman is rape....

Civil case - nothing has been proven - only assumed....  get hold of reality, people.

IF this influences the Toowoomba case - the appeal will succeed.

"Why did you assume that sex had taken place, Mr Lee?"

"They were in the same office suite...... at night.... alone together... sort of"

"Is that it?"

"He has piggy eyes..... they both struggled with the truth, but I feel he, as a man, had an obligation to not struggle with the truth... whereas a woman must be given leeway with truth at all times..... how else could society survive?"

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Civil case - nothing has been proven - only assumed....  get hold of reality, people.


so? i literally said "on the balance of probabilities" in my post, i still dont know why the more reasonable conclusion wasnt "who knows" rather than "he raped her"
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JC Denton wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
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Civil case - nothing has been proven - only assumed....  get hold of reality, people.


so? i literally said "on the balance of probabilities" in my post, i still dont know why the more reasonable conclusion wasnt "who knows" rather than "he raped her"


It's still - "Who knows?" .... no proof positive, just an opinion derived from somewhere....presumption of guilt?  Inference?  Innuendo?  Cowardice?  Mental dysfunction? 

That is precisely why we need a royal commission into the judiciary - too many comparative idiots can get through and make often terrible decisions. based on prejudice, discrimination, racism and all the other failings of humanity, rather than remaining aloof and making decisions based on law....

A 'civil' case is just making it up as they go... but can cause irreparable harm to individuals and to society.....

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Now then - what's the future for Bruce?  Brittany will surge now and move towards becoming the darling of the press and public and will stand for parliament and the easy life for life................. heroine of the poor oppressed woman  (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)..

If I were Bruce's advisor I'd say -

"Stand tall if you are sure of your truth!  Stand for election yourself on a genuine equal rights platform - let the people decide.... beat her to the punch, dork...... don't cower down... be a man.... McCarthyism must not prevail in this country...."

"Are you now - or have you ever in the past.... been a rapist of women?"

"No!"

"Have you ever been an oppressor of women?"

"No...."

"You are in contempt of this court!  We have a signed statement from General Groves himself who says that at the time of your employment on the Man-Hating Project - under today's rules - you would not be employed!!"

"Didn't he say that under today's rules no man would have been employed on the Man-Hating Project?"

"Irrelevant!  Take him away!!"


"Do you remember those figures I brought you?  About wage gaps and rape rates and rape with the eyes and affirmative action needed and so forth?"

"I remember - the ones where you feared we would destroy the world, set alight to the atmosphere - lose everything..."

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Reply #35 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 4:32pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68814811


Bruce Lehrmann: Judge finds Brittany Higgins was raped inside parliament


1 hour ago
By Tiffanie Turnbull,BBC News, Sydney


Former Australian political staffer Bruce Lehrmann raped his colleague Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House, a judge has found in a defamation case.

Mr Lehrmann has always denied sex took place at all and sued Network 10 over a TV interview with Ms Higgins.

The outlet successfully defended the story as substantially true.

Their report in 2021 shocked the nation and stirred huge public anger over the treatment of women in politics.

In the interview, a teary Ms Higgins detailed how she had woken up on a couch in a minister's office to find a colleague raping her, after a night out in Canberra in 2019.

However Mr Lehrmann told the Federal Court the pair had shared an Uber back to their office before going their separate ways.

Ruling that Mr Lehrmann had told "deliberate lies", Justice Michael Lee on Monday said the 28-year-old had been "hellbent" on having sex with Ms Higgins and was "recklessly indifferent" to whether she wanted to as well.

"So intent upon gratification... [Mr Lehrmann] went ahead with sexual intercourse without caring whether or not she consented."

The standard of proof in defamation cases is lower than in criminal proceedings - a defendant must only prove the claims are more likely to be true, than not.

Mr Lehrmann faced a criminal trial in 2022, but it was aborted due to juror misconduct. A retrial was later abandoned out of concern for Ms Higgins' mental health.
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This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...
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Reply #37 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:00pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...



He's a rapist.
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Reply #38 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:20pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:00pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...



He's a rapist.


Yes.  Him and Trump.  Rapists.

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:00pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...



He's a rapist.


A 'civil' rapist, anyway - never proven.  Just a token rapist - like the Token Man in the public service, Parliament, or teaching etc these days.... just there for show - not for any real go.......

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Reply #40 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:31pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:00pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...



He's a rapist.


A 'civil' rapist, ...



You mean he was courteous and polite when he raped her, or he isn't in the military?

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Reply #41 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:31pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 7:00pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 6:45pm:
This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...



He's a rapist.


A 'civil' rapist, ...



You mean he was courteous and polite when he raped her, or he isn't in the military?




He had to put it in -
he didn't know why -
he just had to.

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Reply #42 - Apr 15th, 2024 at 8:20pm
 
Don't choose to be obtuse - just be, man....

It was a civil case - ergo he is only a civil rapist - you can't call him a rapist until properly proven to the proper standard in a proper court - something it is increasingly clear is not in existence in Australia ... hasn't ever been really - but hope was beginning to dawn... until someone set fire to the atmosphere...

Just when light was beginning to dawn over the convict colony courts..... along came feminism with its wailing and whining and demands and outright lies - and the politicians saw in this their golden opportunity - as the beta men they were and remain in reality - to de-nut the real men of Australia and impoverish them in every way so as to ensure their own supremacy as the most overpaid assholes in the land....and gather in all the pussy - but when Bruce wants HIS share.. a lowly underling working for a leso... damn ....look what he gets?  Shortest shrift of the short shrift in the land.... a single part-time casual shrift to cover a lifetime... and if he was that pissed - he probably didn't get it anyway!!

When that started to stagger, the found the ethnics, and the blecks and the poofs and now the trannies - to play the part of the victim and thus 'force' governments' to chop the rights of all others bit by bit.... all the way up to the 2024 Enclosure Acts to create private hunting grounds for ten First Lords Of The Land..... something they'll never use between stops at Macca's anyway....  DUH...

As you head up to Jinadbyne - somewhere around the level just below Canberra on the road from Sydney or south or east or even west - if you look carefully, you can almost see the remains of the high tide mark where the waters of freedom washed up, to subside and be diverted into the Snowjob Scheme ..... and then washed back never to rise again..... and no arks stranded on those golden shores, either....

Let's take the judge down and pour the same amount of piss into him and see if HE can do the deed on a slippery couch...... just stay on that filly for ten seconds and you're an accredited bull rider... yeee hah....

I challenge you all to point out ONE SINGLE non-beta 'man' in Parliament today and in memory... JUST ONE!!
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Latest news ABC 20  media watch.

Bruce Lehrmann has $10 million in legal fees.    Grin



that was an expensive root.   Grin

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
Latest news ABC 20  media watch.

Bruce Lehrmann has $10 million in legal fees.    Grin



that was an expensive root.   Grin



A token root - never proven even yet... just a judicial suggestion based on in-reading of circumstances.  No legal meaning at all in the criminal arena.
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Reply #46 - Apr 16th, 2024 at 11:37am
 
So 1 Judge claims.

Why wasn't he judged by 12 & true of his peers?

Quote:
"Having escaped the lions den ..Mr. Lehrmann went back for his hat"


Why wouldn't he??? after all the Govt fallaciously
forked over $2.4 million in taxpayer funds to Higgins in less than 1 days deliberations/negotiations.

He was after some free money as well.

Seems the good Judge was better at making cliche quips than really proving that Lerhmann actually raped Higgins.

That's his assumption.
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 16th, 2024 at 11:23am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
Latest news ABC 20  media watch.

Bruce Lehrmann has $10 million in legal fees.    Grin



that was an expensive root.   Grin



A token root - never proven even yet... just a judicial suggestion based on in-reading of circumstances.  No legal meaning at all in the criminal arena.



He put it in - that's a root.
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Gets murkier by the moment... where's Aussie?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/surprise-twist-after-inquiry-into-lehrm...

"A former judge has been referred to the ACT Integrity Commission following allegations about his conduct during an inquiry into the criminal prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann.

The territory commission confirmed on Friday it was considering allegations of misconduct against ex-Queensland jurist Walter Sofronoff.

The allegations relate to his dealings with journalists during a 2023 Board of Inquiry and his decision to release the final report to a journalist before it was handed to the ACT chief minister. "


"Where's Aussie?"  Ask yer Mate, Vic.  But, here I am now having missed the chance to stick it you in real time.

You stuffed up on all counts especially with your incessant criticism of the security personnel.

"Lehrmann raped Higgiins."  Get that into your head.

As the Judge said, when he left that nightclub with the woman he found alluring, having plied her with grog, having got her into his Cab, having the perfect place to take her (his joint no go, girlfriend, her joint no go, flatmate..where better than the Ministers Suite) where there was more grog, his intentions were not cloaked in 'mystery.'

He was not going there to get keys, prepare for question time, he was there to screw Higgins.

The Judge seized on a very strong point I was making here.....Lehrmann's girlfriend rang him six times in the space of two minutes while they were in the Suite, and not one call was answered.  We all know why.

He was busy raping Higgins.

Eat cold crow Grappler.


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Reply #49 - Apr 27th, 2024 at 6:50pm
 
Unsupported opinion - judge made a mistake... watch for Bruce again...

No mistakes about the security staff .. let me rehash for you -

. they SHOULD have carried out an earlier check on a woman who apparently arrived drunk and whose accomplice later left alone ...

. they should have checked to see if sex had taken place or if in doubt, called ACT police under whose jurisdiction PH stands ...

. they checked twice - after about two hours and then later ....despite seeing a woman partly clothed they did nothing such as check properly or summon police.....

.  they should have had no need, if properly trained as one should expect in our parliament building, to contact a 'supervisor' for advice....

.  they made no apparent report in any timely fashion to any superior authority ....

I'd say they failed in every single way... let alone failed a young woman who MAY have been raped, but which can now never be proven one way or another but is pure conjecture ... AND at the same time failing a young man who may well have been innocent (apart from having piggy eyes), this despite the judge himself saying that he considered both were 'economical' with truth.

As for the judge - let's hope you get him on a similar accusation, Smith/Aussie/mothra and co... now - if Bruce were your son .................. not going to go there?  I dare you to try the boot on the other foot .... if my son were accused of that I'd fall off the chair laughing...... no way under the bright sun .....

We thought you wouldn't go there .....

As for Aussie - who has he offended THIS time ...  (oh - this is him - he's back - and I thought it was VI Smith) ...

Bruce can appeal - you can see the absolute prejudice of this 'judge' here, and his utter silliness - he now reckons Bruce could win an appeal... but attempts to influence any such decision in advance by saying he has no reputation since he was found to have raped the girl, for which there is still only she says and zero supporting or subtantiating evidence, largely due to her own actions:-

"It is open to Lehrmann to appeal against the judgment, but Lee said if he were to win on appeal his damages would only be $20,000 “because he is only entitled to be compensated for the reputation he deserves”."

So now Bruce's reputation - even if he wins an appeal and has this 'decision' overturned - remains tainted by the overturned decision?

Well - this is Australia after all..... we don't condemn a woman for not telling the truth here, nor do we exonerate a man because she has not told the truth - we don't judge a man by his character proven over a lifetime to date; we judge him on the unsupported in any way accusation that he raped someone ........and he has piggy eyes ... must be guilty.

WHEN this insane 'guilt by accusation but only against men' comes into force - I hope you and Aussie are caught up in it...... I'll happily attend your hearing as a character assassin .......

Now - where is Aussie's body hidden?

Bruce should appeal and stand for election as a fearless and innocent defender of law and truth in hearings.....

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I'm not going to change the lot to suit you, Aussie.... you know what I mean there.... just because you're not Smith THIS time is not relevant....

Now - where ya bin and who didya offend this time?  You're building a reputation .... and your piggy eyes give you away, too .... must be guilty ....
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How about this classic Grappler?

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Did Network Ten win the defamation trial brought by Bruce Lehrmann?

Not at all. Ten lost on the major argument about their journalism, which is a defence of qualified privilege.


And you quote that bullshit rag as a credible source.

Albrechstens's (also The Australian) coverage was also a disgrace.

Bottom line:

Lehrmann raped Higgins and Judge Lee's judgement will be referred to in many later decisions with approval, especially his explanation of 'balance of probabilities.'

Lehrmann raped Higgins.  It is written, and it is said.

I have never been in any doubt about his guilt and if he were my Son as you have asked, I'd kick his arse for being a moronic, easily exposed, opportunistic rapist, and a pathetically patent liar.
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Aussie wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 7:26pm:
I have never been in any doubt about his guilt and if he were my Son as you have asked, I'd kick his arse for being a moronic, easily exposed, opportunistic rapist, and a pathetically patent liar.

And, as a lawyer, you'd have sent him overseas to cool off from the notion of risking suing for defamation, I'd bet.
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Reply #54 - Apr 27th, 2024 at 8:30pm
 
We all know you've had no 'doubt' about his guilt, Aussie - you'd hang a man on accusation with the only evidence 'she says' days/months/years later.

This 'judge' did NOT find him guilty - indeed he could not do so in a civil matter - he expressed an opinion in a civil matter and that is the end of it - UNLESS the plaintiff appeals... in which case he is afforded and re-invested with all legal rights.

Get over it - nobody will ever know or prove what happened......   Cool

P.S.  and you will NOT have 'guilt by accusation' installed as the law of this land, regardless of the baying of the ratbags outside the court doors .... you need help badly, Aussie... you've suffered a meltdown.
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Nup...

Sydney attendees walked from Belmore Park to Hyde Park, holding signs reading, “I’d feel safer alone with a bear”, “Murder on the dance floor, on a run, in a park, at the shops, in our homes”, and “Men are like mushrooms: dangerous ’till proven otherwise”.
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Gordon wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 9:22pm:
Nup...

Sydney attendees walked from Belmore Park to Hyde Park, holding signs reading, “I’d feel safer alone with a bear”, “Murder on the dance floor, on a run, in a park, at the shops, in our homes”, and “Men are like mushrooms: dangerous ’till proven otherwise”.


Yes - that's verbal violence and does nothing to de-tune any potential situations.  This direct assault on legal rights via this 'Bruce' thing - of demanding conviction upon accusation - is one of the most dangerous assaults on our legal system and way of life, probably the worst to come from the 'feminists' yet.  Like Aussie they will leap on thyis as 'Bruce Raped Her' - when it's nothing more than another unsubstantiated opinion in a civil case - and I think this 'judge' should have shut up about that and stuck to the case provable.

He SHOULD have said there is no way of ever knowing - but Bruce wasn't specifically named immediately and was named after the show aired, and it was open to a reasonable person to consider that something of that nature did occur.

I understand and sympathise with their feelings - but their lack of reasoning is precisely why Aussie and the sheilas should never be permitted to run the show.  If they do, I predict a further escalation in violence on all sides.  Women initiate more violence than men - women kill their kids at a higher rate than men - women are more likely to use weapons.... remember that drunk sheila who ran down my son's childhood friend in anger and killed him and that sheila up north of here who ran down her own daughter and niece and killed both ....  the range of issues involved here needs to be looked at thoroughly.

As I said way back in 1992 - you cannot resolve the issues of peace in the Pacific by coming back and bombing Pearl Harbour again...

One look at that guy in the Ticehurst thing and what do you see?  The drowned rat with the tatts and the boxing gloves... uh, huh .... I comment no further ... YTF would a lovely lass like that take to a clear mongrel like that?   Was talking with a lady t'other night about this kind of thing - and I said to her to always ask another bloke since we know blokes - same as a bloke should ask a woman since they know women.

I wouldn't even look at some bloke like that if I was a woman... same as a woman who looked the same. Would YOU go for a drowned rat sheila covered in tattoos and wearing Auntie Jack boxing gloves and a serious attitude problem?  Not for me thanks.

What ARE women thinking - or not thinking?

Did Bruce do it?  We will never know....... that's all there is to it.  Pitiful trying to defend the security staff at our most sensitive location, when they clearly failed in their job over and over ... and only because they were both sheilas on shift at that time... a bloke Aussie would probably have hung for not White Knighting ...  PITIFUL!
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Sounds like more Anti-White Male stuff from the 'Media' women.
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Useless sheila security staff stuffed up - Bruce is innocent.... but he has piggy eyes....kill the pig... drink his blood..... mass hysteria .... mob mentality ....'feeling' supercedes fact .....  finally the adult arrives to control the infantile Lord of The Flies - and sits in a corner in his ivory tower mumbling to self about 'hats' while considering how to lick the balls of the baying crowd and looking like a good mummy's boy... and feeling that feeling supercedes fact and opinion supercedes provable realities....

This is what my country has come to... the lunatics run the asylum ... look around you... and we PAY them to do it!!

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Reply #59 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 12:04pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 8:23pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 27th, 2024 at 7:26pm:
I have never been in any doubt about his guilt and if he were my Son as you have asked, I'd kick his arse for being a moronic, easily exposed, opportunistic rapist, and a pathetically patent liar.

And, as a lawyer, you'd have sent him overseas to cool off from the notion of risking suing for defamation, I'd bet.


Transportation to England for the Term Of His Natural Life..... good grief - what a fate these days!  Aussie claims he would assume his own son was guilty of rape and would convict him on that 'evidence' .... pure madness...... 'Aussie' is a liar and definitely no lawyer.
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[quote author=The_Grappledate=1714269758]Useless sheila security staff stuffed up - Bruce is innocent.... but he has piggy eyes....kill the pig... drink his r link=1712290491/58#58 blood..... mass hysteria .... mob mentality ....'feeling' supercedes fact .....  finally the adult arrives to control the Lord of The Flies - and sits in a corner mumbling to self about 'hats' while considering how to lick the balls of the baying crowd and looking like a good mummy's boy... and feeling that feeling supercedes fact and opinion supercedes provable realities....

This is what my country has come to... the lunatics run the asylum ... look around you... and we PAY them to do it!!

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How did you arrive at that conclusion (and don't give me the pissy innocent till proven guilty.)
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Aussie wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 12:09pm:
[quote author=The_Grappledate=1714269758]Useless sheila security staff stuffed up - Bruce is innocent.... but he has piggy eyes....kill the pig... drink his r link=1712290491/58#58 blood..... mass hysteria .... mob mentality ....'feeling' supercedes fact .....  finally the adult arrives to control the Lord of The Flies - and sits in a corner mumbling to self about 'hats' while considering how to lick the balls of the baying crowd and looking like a good mummy's boy... and feeling that feeling supercedes fact and opinion supercedes provable realities....

This is what my country has come to... the lunatics run the asylum ... look around you... and we PAY them to do it!!



How did you arrive at that conclusion (and don't give me the pissy innocent till proven guilty.)
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Never proven guilty.
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Bruce Is Innocent!!
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 12:26pm:
Bruce Is Innocent!!


When he commenced the defamation action, he knew he was inviting a civil finding as to whether he had raped Higgins or not.  That is what the Judge meant when he made the hat/lions den comment.

He could have walked away an innocent man, but he got too clevah, as is his arrogant want.  He thought he could "fight the Law," but contrary to his little ditty, "Bruce did not win."



He got the finding.....he raped Higgins.
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Reply #64 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:37pm
 
Getting desperate, 'Aussie' - Bruce is innocent ...

A judge's unsupported opinion is the same as yours - unsupported and no conviction ... and I say that with conviction...

Bruce is innocent - with piggy eyes..... same as he is guilty because of piggy eyes..... kill the pig... drink his blood.... get up a hue and cry throughout the land.... mass hysteria.... infantile reasoning .... Lord Of The Flies.... without anyone to stop them.... that's what we've got these days ... the herd wanted his blood one way or the other ... and this 'judge' licked their balls ..... having none himself....

You people are sick..................... a civil finding is not of guilt.... it's an opinion personal.... nothing more...

Brucie needs to counter-attack... the 'law' in this country is in a parlous state .... being a man in a public place will soon be illegal and make one liable to deportation to the gulag for processing..... Feminazi Mythology 101...

Now then - about that fee simple $50 to lodge and pursue a defamation case...... with an entire burden of PROOF of truth .....  legal rights should not be based on bank account warfare......  Huh
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I mean honestly, you'd have to be a colossal dickhead to deny it at this point wouldn't you.

Enter, Crappler, stage right.
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And you're a genius  Roll Eyes
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... and the beatings go on .....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/brittany-higgins-fails-in-bid-to-delay-...

Chequebook lawfare added to prejudice and pussy passing.....  even Sharaz knows a bloke has no chance there... The Agenda is in full swing.... and nothing will be allowed to stop it.... and HE has piggy eyes as well.... and is a beach ball .... no chance at all ...

I can't see this one going away any time soon... and not a soul found guilty of anything ................................................... Innocent .................................

Now then - what about those changes to 'security' at Parliament House?  Very quiet on that front....... nobody wants to say for fear of being dragged into this mess that is ruining lives.  If only those sheilas had known and done their job properly....... and not been subject to influence to NOT do their job but to wink, wink at late entry by couples.....

EVERY great traitor was a trusted employee....... allowed access at all hours etc....
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He Lives!  Justice Lee's Creature Lives!!  OOPS... damn, this saga of a root gone sour goes on and on.... FFS... read this and ask how he found against Piggy Eyes... on the basis that he has Piggy Eyes, assuredly.....

Bonus Question:-  Why are the judiciary such craven cowards that they MUST always find 'guilt' when appeasing the baying crowds of ill-informed and overwrought mob werewolves outside the doors.... and then leave it entirely wide open to appeal ... for someone else to resolve?  It's not as if they are elected here .... so they must be operating under the orders of their political masters....... make it look good for the screeching sheilas or we're all doomed at the polling booth.....  we put you there - now you take care of us... mutual back-scratching.... find against Piggy to appease the mob and then take a shotgun to your own judgement....  Huh Huh Huh

I never joke............

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Reply #69 - May 3rd, 2024 at 10:04am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/lehrmann-set-to-appeal-judgement-in-def...

Yeah - but he's a bloke in a court against the Holy Sheila these days... and he's got piggy eyes...

One of the things I warned the 'law reform commission' (three lies for the price of one - it's not law, it never reforms it ruins, and it's a qango amounting to an inquisition, not to mention it's a Salem Witch Trial with gender roles reversed, same as 'truth telling' is another SWT with race roles) about in 1992 (count the years now) was that the imposition of the illegal right of a court under 'dv complaint' to impose on any individual guilty of no wrong - was that this would tend to lower, in the minds (they have minds?) of the 'courts' (inquisitions) the viability of 'innocence until proven guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt' and especially in the case where the 'defendant' is a man against a woman.

NOT TO MENTION that this 'action on complaint without verification AND the language in use - for a very long time - pre-disposed police to attend such things ready for a fight and thus creating of countless people 'created criminals' who had done no wrong.  You cannot see the historical parallels there?  In the land of the blind - the one-eyed man is king.. do you now wonder - why so? - that there is growing anger in the community leading to massive unrest and even deaths - as I've been telling yez for years now.

I can lead a camel jockey to peace with Israel instead of being wiped out in retaliation - but I can't make him think it...

Once again - I couldn't have been more right... but then - when am I ever wrong?


"Are you now... or have you at any time ever been or been acquainted with ..... a member of the Oppressors of Women/Blacks of Australia Party?"

"No!"

"You are in contempt, sir - take him away.... remove his rights!!!!"


You have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?  You will one day....
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the imposition of the illegal right of a court under 'dv complaint' to impose on any individual guilty of no wrong -

Without judging guilt, courts make many orders such as seizing a passport, forbidding accused to speak to witnesses or hold in custody without bail.  AV orders are a joke because of the lack of any power 'to impose'.
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chimera wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 10:11am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 10:04am:
the imposition of the illegal right of a court under 'dv complaint' to impose on any individual guilty of no wrong -

Without judging guilt, courts make many orders such as seizing a passport, forbidding accused to speak to witnesses or hold in custody without bail.  AV orders are a joke because of the lack of any power 'to impose'.


Yes - the powers of the court can be exceeded.  that's the whole point.  There are CLEAR REASONS for the things you cite.... not just a policy or a doctrine.

Answer now - under what circumstances is a passport seized?  Genuine concerns for flight or misuse.  It is a given that an accused cannot speak to witness - nor should the prosecution etc attempt to intimidate them .... custody is a matter of judgement of someone accused of a genuine offence and likely to offend again. 

You reckon the offenceless accusation is enough?

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Can't answer that. Your thinking is so tangled that it's best to buy a new one.
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chimera wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 10:27am:
Can't answer that. Your thinking is so tangled that it's best to buy a new one.


Gotcha.  You were doing well with that statement on its own.  You have no answer.

Now then - this guilt by accusation that you so little understand...... where do YOU imagine it should start and finish?  What special 'rights' should accrue to one side over another in its application?  You know - like ' racism' or 'genocide' etc these days?  What incredible range of 'offences' do YOU consider a person should suffer sanction by a court when no harm is done?

Lessee now.... jeez - he insulted the Emperor.... made a joke about the regime.... held a court in contempt (buggar me!) ... opposed a pathetic policy idea.... felt that his vote against something should hold the day ... OFF TO THE GULAG WITH HIM!!  Where you BIN, Laden?  Let's just make it 'offences as an enemy of the people, a.k.a. City Hall ' and round 'em all up!!  We'll have a pure society by our standards even if it  kills every Right in it!!!

Should everyone simply be convicted and be subject to arbitrary sanction by any court at any time purely on accusation?  After a few wines the old girl feels like a whine and there's nothing in it, but along comes the spider and steals all the curds and whey - what part of "in 2012 96% of callouts over 'dv' resulted in no charges" do you fail to understand?

What part of 'illegal use of law' and imposition by force and not reality by a court are themselves acts of violence and thus engender the very thing they claim to be preventing - while in reality escalating the overall violence and anger within the community, thus leading to deaths and disadvantage for life and other forms of abuse for many without proper reason, but as part of an overall policy thrust to lower the value of the rights and privileges of every citizen?

Do you 'protest' 'for' poor Palestine?  What about trannies rights to get into women's spaces?  You one of them Woke, boy?

Let's just consider it symbolic of your struggle with those Oppression.... more like a struggle with not falling asleep at the wheel while participating in oppression...  Cool

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Reply #74 - May 3rd, 2024 at 11:20am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/domestic-violence-advocates-and-legal-e...

Now then - empty rhetoric aside ........

Who are these 'perpetrators'?  How are they defined?  By what standard does someone become a 'perpetrator'?  How does ankle braceleting a murderer who gets no bail help anyone by prevention?  What is this 'perpetrator' of whom you speak so loudly??  Your son, uncle, father, grandfather, nephew, husband ... oh, sorry - of course not them..... they'd never do that..... well maybe they'd hang your husband on suspicion and/or denouncement ....

Anyone?  Proper comments only thanks... for instance Bruce isn't a rapist because some judge in a civil matter holds that opinion.... and then says - "Oh, yeah - but everyone lied.... he's the one with the piggy eyes... the rest are cleanskins and public figures - no discrimination of course..... no elitism ... no sexism...... but he IS the bloke ...."

Neither is Trump of course - guilt never found - just an opinion on inadequate evidence.... I saw a unicorn the other day, too....

Now then - WHO ARE THESE 'PERPETRATORS'?  If they are PERPETRATORS they've been convicted and are being punished..... so what is the point of ankle braceleting someone who kills someone else?  You see the dead ends here, do you not?  Words are cheap and easy and drive the herds along .... they don't solve problems..... but when you seek to apply the solutions to those guilty of nothing but being denounced after a few wines.............. you see where we're going?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/lehrmann-set-to-appeal-judgement-in-def...
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Reply #75 - May 3rd, 2024 at 11:24am
 
chimera wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 10:27am:
Can't answer that. Your thinking is so tangled that it's best to buy a new one.


Grasshopper - it is your MIND that is tangled - either by policy or by years of hard training ... if you want to be confused and play first grade at it - train like a first grader....

Again - how many years of training do you need to get things so wrong?
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Reply #76 - May 3rd, 2024 at 11:58am
 
Better all the time....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/federal-court-to-consider-costs-in-fail...

I find 10's argument spurious - if they approved Wilkinson's comments etc, it's not 'repeating' - the buck stops there.  I don't support what any of them said - Lee said they all lied (but one is a man with piggy eyes so his ass is grass) .... 10 made the decision to allow their employee to go ahead - they need to take some responsibility.

That said - Wilkinson has gone way down in my estimation as has her husband.
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Reply #77 - May 3rd, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 11:58am:
Better all the time....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/federal-court-to-consider-costs-in-fail...

I find 10's argument spurious - if they approved Wilkinson's comments etc, it's not 'repeating' - the buck stops there.  I don't support what any of them said - Lee said they all lied (but one is a man with piggy eyes so his ass is grass) .... 10 made the decision to allow their employee to go ahead - they need to take some responsibility.


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That said - Wilkinson has gone way down in my estimation as has her husband.


No-one ever suggested your sense of judgement was anywhere near good!

Brucey has been given leave to appeal out of time as he needs to Brief a different Senior Counsel.  I guess the old one either had enough of the raping prick, or was not going to be part of a doomed exercise,  or Brucey has not come to satisfactory financial arrangements.

What are you going to clutch at when the appeal fails, Grappler?
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Reply #78 - May 3rd, 2024 at 1:18pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 11:58am:
Better all the time....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/federal-court-to-consider-costs-in-fail...

I find 10's argument spurious - if they approved Wilkinson's comments etc, it's not 'repeating' - the buck stops there.  I don't support what any of them said - Lee said they all lied (but one is a man with piggy eyes so his ass is grass) .... 10 made the decision to allow their employee to go ahead - they need to take some responsibility.


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That said - Wilkinson has gone way down in my estimation as has her husband.


No-one ever suggested your sense of judgement was anywhere near good!


Brucey has been given leave to appeal out of time as he needs to Brief a different Senior Counsel.  I guess the old one either had enough of the raping prick, or was not going to be part of a doomed exercise,  or Brucey
never convicted of anything
has not
been able to
come to satisfactory financial [s]arrangements.

Chequebook lawfare works like that.  Geez - Pig Eyes Sharaz has pulled out of HIS case due to financial constraints... St Brittany is being given no quarter from claimant (good word that - it's a civil case about money - not crime - got it?)


What are you going to clutch at when the appeal fails, Grappler?


Took a while - the bait was laid for days and you play coy ... you KNOW you want it..... to argue the leg off a chair.  Now then - let's just correct your misdemeanours first...

What are YOU going to do when anything involved in this fails?  Just sit back and say - "Oh, it's perfectly all right for a 'judge' to say all liars are equal, but some are more equal than others...... and he does have piggy eyes and a prick, so it must be, eh?"....???

Now then - about that son of yours in a capital case and labeled guilty in a civil matter associated with it....
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Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Minister's Suite that night?
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Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Ministers' Suite that night?



He was organising some pussy for the night.    Grin
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Reply #81 - May 3rd, 2024 at 5:12pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:27pm:
Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Minister's Suite that night?


Getting his keys - drinking some whiskey - sorting a few papers - finding a cure for cancer - meditating on world events - seeking a peace solution for Gaza - writing up a suggestion on how to end the Afghanistan commitment.... thinking of his holiday to Eskimoland ... **coughs** we have no way of KNOWING ..... but you know that already.

The list of possibilities is endless...... now 0h Great Svengali The Mind Reader - what WAS he doing in the ministerial suite at that time in company with a girl flaked out on the lounge?  The Great Gonzo ..... tell us what the crystal balls reveal ...

No assumptions, please - no suppositions, no innuendoes, no suspicions, no inferences, no opinions ..... just the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.... let's not do another Lee thing here - we all KNOW Bruce has piggy eyes and is a beach ball....
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Reply #82 - May 3rd, 2024 at 5:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:45pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:27pm:
Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Ministers' Suite that night?



He was organising some pussy for the night.    Grin


Probably - just not certainly.... and organising is not the same as getting  ..... I could organise a delivery of unicorns for my grand-daughters after organising a huge Powerball win..... if I could get the win first...

The difference is subtle....
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 5:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:45pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:27pm:
Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Ministers' Suite that night?



He was organising some pussy for the night.    Grin


Probably - just not certainly.... and organising is not the same as getting  ..... I could organise a delivery of unicorns for my grand-daughters after organising a huge Powerball win..... if I could get the win first...

The difference is subtle....


There is the word....'probably' and that is what the Judge found.
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Reply #84 - May 3rd, 2024 at 6:15pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 5:12pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2024 at 3:27pm:
Tell me Grappler, what was Lehrmann doing in the Minister's Suite that night?


Getting his keys - drinking some whiskey - sorting a few papers - finding a cure for cancer - meditating on world events - seeking a peace solution for Gaza - writing up a suggestion on how to end the Afghanistan commitment.... thinking of his holiday to Eskimoland ... **coughs** we have no way of KNOWING ..... but you know that already.

The list of possibilities is endless...... now 0h Great Svengali The Mind Reader - what WAS he doing in the ministerial suite at that time in company with a girl flaked out on the lounge?  The Great Gonzo ..... tell us what the crystal balls reveal ...

No assumptions, please - no suppositions, no innuendoes, no suspicions, no inferences, no opinions ..... just the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.... let's not do another Lee thing here - we all KNOW Bruce has piggy eyes and is a beach ball....


Raping Higgins.  She said so.  Other evidence backed her up.

He was not there for his stated reasons of getting keys (does not take 40 mins to do that,) nor was he there for making notes (he made none he showed us etc,) whiskey (yes, that was the first reason he gave for going there and he was not lying about that, and he was not there to answer phone calls from his girlfriend....six in all while he was in the Suite, all unanswered....while he was raping Higgins, the girl he found alluring, the girl he plied with booze, the girl he had in the cab with him, the girl he left like a drunken shag on a rock....after shagging her, she to be found not long later virtually naked and disorientated.

Tell me Grappler, did you agree with the Judge who found that Lehrmann's evidence that Higgins was no more alluring to him than anyone in the Court Room, a comment the Judge found to be as disconcerting as it was unconvincing?
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Reply #85 - May 3rd, 2024 at 7:04pm
 
"Raping Higgins.  She said so."

You were doing well up to that point...... although the claimed out of it drunken recollection is not the most reliable evidence ...

What 'other evidence' 'supported' that claim made days afterwards when she was on the spot and had already herself destroyed physical evidence, if any?

The security guards didn't smell the Holy Juices.... never a mention.... why was that?  Sense of smell surgically removed as a requirement for the job?  I can understand such a need in Parliament House....

What WAS that sweeping evidence that made it even on balance that Piggy Eyes did her???

I've always said - IF he did - and the available evidence does not support that - and she was drunk at the time - it is a crime....... it's hardly my fault that everyone involved has told lies - apparently - and those most 'affected' - or claiming to be anyway - destroyed evidence..... no smoking dress..... no tissue swab even retained .... wearing the same dress to a party later... fibbing about the minister....  in front of witnesses....  porkies flying everywhere around this one....

But yeah - Bruce is a beach ball, has piggy eyes and a dick - he must be guilty ...... kill the pig!  Drink his blood!!

And the adult, Lee, on arrival said - "Go ahead!  He DOES have piggy eyes...."

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Reply #86 - May 7th, 2024 at 11:44pm
 
MediaKommissariat have decided it is time to rev up the Higgins saga again:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/update-in-higgins-v-reynolds-court-figh...

"Senator Linda Reynolds and her former staffer Brittany Higgins appeared to be heading for a trial in their defamation battle, but now there is new hope they may be able to reach a settlement.

Western Australia’s Supreme Court has listed a mediation conference for May 21 between Ms Reynolds, Ms Higgins and her fiance David Sharaz."


Note:-  Sharaz - being another piggy eyed man with a prick - had decided he has no chance in a court in Australia today...
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Reply #87 - May 8th, 2024 at 5:01pm
 
So, the rapist's Lawyers took it on, speculatively.

Morons.

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For anyone who is interested, the decision on costs will be live on You Tube commencing at 2.15 pm today (Eastern.)
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Lehrmann has to pay costs of at least $8 million -
but he has no money.


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Reply #90 - May 10th, 2024 at 4:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 3:46pm:
Lehrmann has to pay costs of at least $8 million -
but he has no money.


https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/may/10/bruce-lehrmann-defamation-tr...


So, he's a rapist with no money who'll be forced into bankruptcy?

Who does that remind you of?

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Reply #91 - May 10th, 2024 at 8:07pm
 
He's not a rapist - there is no solid evidence to support that unsubstantiated opinion which a reputable member of the bench should naver have made - but clearly this guy is part of The Agenda to break down Law and replace it with arbitrary assumptions, followed by arbitrary arrests and detainment and conviction and imprisonment on accusatio.

I warn you - in Australia Too Long Under The Boot Heel of The Scum Floating On the Top - them's fighting words.

Bruce is Innocent until properly found guilty - which we all knew would never happen on that 'evidence'.  So he's broke?  What would you expect after this fiasco and incredible bodyguard of lies put forward by EVERY participant - ALL of them with far deeper pockets than any ordinary beach ball with glasses and piggy eyes (must be guilty)?

Give it a rest.  They executed the little man - he couldn't run fast enough... he was the smaller kid on the block...he wasn't fit enough to be a Marine.... he had piggy eyes ... so they killed him!  I reckon they should all stand trial and spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Clearly Albo and the rest are intent on bringing on the Civil War - but they reckon they'll win it since they have the power...... but what if the military and the police take the other side - the side of Democracy, instead?

It astounds me that any government of a 'democracy' would CHOOSE to behave with such hubris as to exploit the power of the state through unelected minions on contract payments and at the bidding of that government while desperately seeking 'plausible deniability' at both Federal and State level - to undermine the democratic will and Rights of The People.......

That is called despotism and tyranny...
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Reply #92 - May 24th, 2024 at 9:00pm
 
Ooooh - this one gets better and better:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/higgins-texts-before-social-post-court/...


"Mr Zwier had requested the court allow more time for Ms Higgins’ to respond to an application submitted by Senator Reynolds, who is attempting to obtain a copy of the Brittany Higgins Protection Trust deed.

The trust was set up in February last year, after Ms Higgins received a $2.4m compensation payment from the Commonwealth.

Senator Reynolds wants to find out who the trustee is and who to sue if Ms Higgins is unable to pay damages from the defamation case that is yet to be determined."
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Reply #93 - May 24th, 2024 at 11:55pm
 
What a mess.

Everyone is laughing except the taxpayer, you and I have/are/ will pay for this!
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Reply #94 - May 25th, 2024 at 11:22am
 
I could sympathise with accused rapists who have their cases dismissed. But, why bother suing the media after the acquittal? I cannot remember Lehrmann being defamed in any way.
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 8:07pm:
He's not a rapist



wrong .......... again!
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Reply #96 - May 25th, 2024 at 2:58pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 2:35pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 8:07pm:
He's not a rapist



wrong .......... again!


Of course - he's a beach ball with piggy eyes - and an opinion expressed in a civil case is not a conviction....  Bruce is not a rapist by any legal standard... jeez - the only 'evidence' was a drunken recollection on a lounge -could've been a dream...

Judiciary must not take sides in a political thrust - especially when it involves destruction of legal rights.  They have literally no right to do so, and clearly this guy is onside with the idea of 'guilt by accusation' = denunciation.... social Night and Fog .... totally anathema to our way of life and Law and division of powers... but I don't expect you to understand that...

The judiciary interpret law - they do not make it.

To begin to heal your lack of understanding you must first acknowledge that you have a problem of not knowing.

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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
Bruce is not a rapist by any legal standard...



but he is a rapist by every other definition.  Roll Eyes

If i steal your car, I am a thief. If I am never caught with your car and never convicted of the crime, I am still a thief. 

Why you make excuses for rapists is beyond me.
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But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.
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But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.
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Reply #101 - May 25th, 2024 at 8:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You see - that's the problem - you've never touched Bruce's case... you weren't there.... you know nothing... so you can't know if it was wet or dry ... the old Mosaic Law would reject your stance entirely.....

Let us know when your time machine takes you back and you can get inside Parliament House on the night and at the time and place under consideration.....
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Reply #102 - May 25th, 2024 at 8:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.


A beach ball with piggy eyes and Roy Orbison glasses?  What hope has he got in a modern day Australian court against a vague accusation by a woman who is being publicly pilloried AGAIN right now and whose integrity is being challenged over and over?

The piggy eyes do it every time.... kill the pig - drink his blood...  you infants are just like those kids in Lord of The Flies.... just rush around like lunatics without a single thought in your heads....

That's why kids can't decide if they are girls or boys ....
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Reply #103 - May 25th, 2024 at 9:29pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 8:03pm:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You see - that's the problem - you've never touched Bruce's case... you weren't there.... you know nothing... so you can't know if it was wet or dry ... the old Mosaic Law would reject your stance entirely.....

Let us know when your time machine takes you back and you can get inside Parliament House on the night and at the time and place under consideration.....


The fact that I don't shove my head up my arse and ignore the evidence says that I know more than you
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Reply #104 - May 25th, 2024 at 9:37pm
 
Yes you did - the evidence was that she said one thing - he said another.... and you had no way of knowing the truth.  so because she's a woman you feel you must accept her word for everything and anything, even when the same judge said that everyone involved had been less than forthcoming with the truth..... and women suffer double the percentage of mental illness that men do.....

So you feel free to place yourself under that kind of regime, son - just don't expect the rest of us to.
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Reply #105 - May 25th, 2024 at 9:49pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 8:06pm:
Aussie wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.


A beach ball with piggy eyes and Roy Orbison glasses?  What hope has he got in a modern day Australian court against a vague accusation by a woman who is being publicly pilloried AGAIN right now and whose integrity is being challenged over and over?

The piggy eyes do it every time.... kill the pig - drink his blood...  you infants are just like those kids in Lord of The Flies.... just rush around like lunatics without a single thought in your heads....

That's why kids can't decide if they are girls or boys ....


Nothing vague about the accusation, as the Judge found.

And your narrative is just not working. Even "beach balls with piggy eyes and Roy Orbison glasses" can be rapists and you have way overcooked the Lord of the Flies thing.  It is not cleverly profound Grappler, but I know you think it is.
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Reply #106 - May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm
 
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.
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Reply #107 - May 25th, 2024 at 10:45pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


Political movement? Grin Grin Grin
He said that in all likelihood Lehrmann raped her.  That's not a political movement,  that's just stating the obvious.   Cheesy
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Reply #108 - May 25th, 2024 at 11:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:45pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


Political movement? Grin Grin Grin
He said that in all likelihood Lehrmann raped her.  That's not a political movement,  that's just stating the obvious.   Cheesy


There you go - he did not have the evidence to support such a statement.... but should instead have given equal weight to both sides given the utter lack of any other evidence.  When he clearly sides with the demand for 'guilt by accusation' and actually fuels that push to destroy legal rights, he is deserving of censure and probably dismissal.

By insinuation now he has prejudiced the outcome of a trial against Let's Call Him Bruce based on pretty much the same level of 'evidence' and has pre-disposed the minds of any jury or judge to find guilt where the evidence does not support that.

Not even you are that blind and stupid.  Oh - wait a minute...


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'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'
Lehrmann never met her, she's not his type and he paid cash hush-money or his lawyer did or someone didn't and the judge is crook.
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Reply #110 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?
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Reply #111 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:27am
 
Aussie wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.


Lehrmann denied having sex with Higgins. That is why Lehrmann is not doing time in prison for rape.
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Reply #112 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 8:03pm:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You see - that's the problem - you've never touched Bruce's case... you weren't there.... you know nothing... so you can't know if it was wet or dry ... the old Mosaic Law would reject your stance entirely.....

Let us know when your time machine takes you back and you can get inside Parliament House on the night and at the time and place under consideration.....


The fact that I don't shove my head up my arse and ignore the evidence says that I know more than you


You might be more flexible than others. But, you are not dumb enough to commit yourself to shoving your head up your arse. The evidence that you ignore is that Brittany does not know if intercourse took place -- consensual or otherwise. Another piece of evidence is the fact that Brittany did not go to the police to do a rape kit to show that sexual intercourse took place.

There is plenty to read up about the case against Lehrmann. But the circumstantial evidence is just not enough to say that Lehrmann is a rapist. I doubt Lehrmann's innocence, too. But, it is not about proving Lehrmann's innocence. It is about proving his guilt.
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Reply #113 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.
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Reply #114 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.
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Reply #115 - May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.
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Reply #116 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


So he ignored the facts that Bruce presented?  The fact that all parties were loose with the truth?  Just had to dig desperately for one factoid to hang a man's entire life on?

The New Hanging Assizes should have their first victim - the judge.

These guys are way beyond themselves making law as they go along - I read last night of a decision that said, in effect, that the people's rejection of a political move (say, the voice) was insufficient to stop a government going ahead with it!!

Astonishing .... I've been calling for a royal commission into judiciary and jurisprudence for a very long time... for many reasons but basically because of their demolition of legal rights - but that is definitely becoming more and more urgent as time goes by.  They are supposed to be independent - not tools of the party in government on the day, not sucking down to the screaming pack at the door who demand that legal protections be removed so they can get at the accused and lynch him, are most especially not supposed to engage in legal lynchings, and are supposed to uphold the right and Rights - not alter them to suit.

I hold no brief for Bruce or anyone else in this sordid matter - but the clear and present danger from the judiciary is in front of your noses.... get with it.  They are but part of the dire peril this country is in at this time.

** Thirty-two years ago I warned the NSW 'Law reform Commission' that introducing their idea of 'domestic and apprehended violence laws' would lead to a diminution in the burden on judges and magistrates to actually find on proven and provable facts - especially in any case where a woman is the accuser and a man the accused.  This has come to pass.... I also pointed out that any genuine act of genuine violence was already actionable under existing law... to the then existing standard - which standard in itself was already perilously thin in the upholding of the rights of the defendant, in the hands of clearly biased and often incompetent 'magistrates' not even remotely drawn from the general populace and knowing what simple realities are, and in the overwhelmingly vast majority of cases, still hopelessly tied to the idea that 'the thin blue line' could never lie.  Then came royal commission after royal commission in state after state to PROVE how very much 'the thin blue line' DID lie as a matter of course.

Now far to many in the community, who have themselves never faced this atrocity of jurisprudence out of control of the Law,  suddenly feel that Law should be abandoned to favour a woman complainant, and a conviction made purely on the basis that 'women don't lie' - even though 10% of women and 5% of men will suffer a mental disorder that renders them incapable of knowing the difference.

Again I hold zero brief for the man on policies or politics - but look at what that did to one politician in the hands of a deeply schizophrenic woman whose very family rejected her claims.

Aussie knows this full well - he claims to have successfully defended one person accused of rape - and accused on much more substantial evidence than a single statement.... so what happened to Aussie after that?  He KNOWS 'the thin blue line' still lies and formulates a 'case' by often excluding relevant evidence and so forth - yet he leaps to the hang man's rope for Bruce on the basis of one single statement by an allegedly drunken woman, and ZERO other evidence.

Bruce has piggy eyes, etc, of course.... he looks like a rapist ... he had some sort of 'power' and we all know (wink, wink) that 'power' corrupts ...
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Reply #117 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:24pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:42am:
'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'
Lehrmann never met her, she's not his type and he paid cash hush-money or his lawyer did or someone didn't and the judge is crook.



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  When he clearly sides with the demand for 'guilt by accusation' and actually fuels that push to destroy legal rights, he is deserving of censure and probably dismissal.

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Reply #119 - May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.


Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'
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Aussie knows this full well - he claims to have successfully defended one person accused of rape - and accused on much more substantial evidence than a single statement.... so what happened to Aussie after that?  He KNOWS 'the thin blue line' still lies and formulates a 'case' by often excluding relevant evidence and so forth - yet he leaps to the hang man's rope for Bruce on the basis of one single statement by an allegedly drunken woman, and ZERO other evidence.


I have successfully defended many blokes charged with rape, and also carnal knowledge (as it was then known.)  Which one are you referring to?

I have also successfully defended blokes at the wrong end of AVOs as they are now known.

You have forests on that shoulder of yours and it can only be because of some bad experience you personally have had with domestic violence laws.
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Aussie knows this full well - he claims to have successfully defended one person accused of rape - and accused on much more substantial evidence than a single statement.... so what happened to Aussie after that?  He KNOWS 'the thin blue line' still lies and formulates a 'case' by often excluding relevant evidence and so forth - yet he leaps to the hang man's rope for Bruce on the basis of one single statement by an allegedly drunken woman, and ZERO other evidence.


I have successfully defended many blokes charged with rape, and also carnal knowledge (as it was then known.)  Which one are you referring to?

I have also successfully defended blokes at the wrong end of AVOs as they are now known.

You have forests on that shoulder of yours and it can only be because of some bad experience you personally have had with domestic violence laws.


Better that a hundred innocent men hang than that one guilty man go free, eh?  A lie is a lie no matter how many times you turn it on the barbecue.  Justice is coming....

So you condemn Bruce on the basis of a single unsubstantiated statement made long after the alleged event........ you are truly amazing.... it is not I with forests on my shoulders.... I stand for the right .....

Now then - why is there no diminution in the brutal war between women and men, but instead that war is escalating?
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Reply #122 - May 26th, 2024 at 3:09pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:04pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:01pm:
Grappler:

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Aussie knows this full well - he claims to have successfully defended one person accused of rape - and accused on much more substantial evidence than a single statement.... so what happened to Aussie after that?  He KNOWS 'the thin blue line' still lies and formulates a 'case' by often excluding relevant evidence and so forth - yet he leaps to the hang man's rope for Bruce on the basis of one single statement by an allegedly drunken woman, and ZERO other evidence.


I have successfully defended many blokes charged with rape, and also carnal knowledge (as it was then known.)  Which one are you referring to?

I have also successfully defended blokes at the wrong end of AVOs as they are now known.

You have forests on that shoulder of yours and it can only be because of some bad experience you personally have had with domestic violence laws.


Better that a hundred innocent men hang than that one guilty man go free, eh?  A lie is a lie no matter how many times you turn it on the barbecue.  Justice is coming....

So you condemn Bruce on the basis of a single unsubstantiated statement made long after the alleged event........ you are truly amazing.... it is not I with forests on my shoulders.... I stand for the right .....

Now then - why is there no diminution in the brutal war between women and men, but instead that war is escalating?


No, and neither did the Judge.  Read his decision.  Stop blathering rubbish.
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The 'judge' ventured an opinion personal based on a single flimsy piece of evidence.  The perfect modern day Fascist - he'd fit perfectly with all the other 'progressive' Fascists doing the rounds ..

I, of course, am a Progressive against 'progressives' - the New Fascists - they have lost their way in the wildernesses of tyranny and despotism - I am leading them out of it.... bit by bit - but they are resistant to reason and sense, preferring to go down into the darkness of the human soul than to rise above their petty stupidities.  Only when they find themselves digging their own graves - as so many did once they fell from favour with the 'government' under the Cambodian regime  - will they understand what they are doing and have done.

Now then - about all these 'special rights' that somehow accrue to those with Accredited Victim Status these days.... when will basic rights be restored to the majority - you know - the right to be innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt and only on verifiable and supported facts... the right to move freely about their own country... the right to not be controlled by some oddball 'religious' belief ... the right to a fair return for their efforts??

Fascists ..... do you understand what they are in reality?  Most of you seem to think they are just ordinary, well-intentioned people, good at heart ....... well... they all were, weren't they?  Just doing what was best for the country..... and startlingly ordinary  while doing the most heinous things to others without thought or consideration.

Now all decent people must prepare themselves for the Civil War being forced upon them.   Undecided
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
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But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?


You might.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.


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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


So he ignored the facts that Bruce presented..


Not likely.  It's just that the judge has a better grasp of reality than you do, and so was able to better interpret those facts. 
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John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:01pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.


I'm sure they're shivering in fear that you might cry about it


They should be... remember Wyatt Earp?  His 'vendetta' was a direct conflict between one body of law and another... only one can be right..... and when a 'judge' arbitrarily finds on a single flimsy statement - that is clearly in the wrong........

If this 'judge' had said that Bruce was NOT guilty on the available evidence - there would be a hue and cry and demonstrations and whining throughout the land, and pressure applied to 'politicians' to do what they are seeking to do - impose a rule by decree that the rights of a defendant under law are abolished in some circumstances.  They've been halfway there since 1992 with their 'dv laws' that have wrought such havoc..... clearly the people do not agree with them ...

You must put a stop to these Fascists before they totally rule you all.... but you can't see that....

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Reply #128 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:13pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
doing the most heinous things to others without thought or consideration.

Lehrmann wanted the judge to rule on defamation. The judge ruled. Grappler's white-washing of the man matches Grappler's black-bashing of certain people with a skin colour.
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Reply #129 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:28pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:07pm:
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:01pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.


I'm sure they're shivering in fear that you might cry about it


They should be... remember Wyatt Earp?  His 'vendetta' was a direct conflict between one body of law and another... only one can be right..... and when a 'judge' arbitrarily finds on a single flimsy statement - that is clearly in the wrong........

If this 'judge' had said that Bruce was NOT guilty on the available evidence - there would be a hue and cry and demonstrations and whining throughout the land, and pressure applied to 'politicians' to do what they are seeking to do - impose a rule by decree that the rights of a defendant under law are abolished in some circumstances.  They've been halfway there since 1992 with their 'dv laws' that have wrought such havoc..... clearly the people do not agree with them ...

You must put a stop to these Fascists before they totally rule you all.... but you can't see that....

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Fuck me Grappler!  What is this suggestion this Judge could find him 'not guilty?'

Aren't you the very bloke who has been correctly pointing out that this was a civil Trial, not a criminal one?

Yet there you are, using the terms you abuse other people for using!
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Reply #130 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:30pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:13pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
doing the most heinous things to others without thought or consideration.

Lehrmann wanted the judge to rule on defamation. The judge ruled. Grappler's white-washing of the man matches Grappler's black-bashing of certain people with a skin colour.


Saying he was a rapist is not ruling on defamation... it is accusing a man of rape... I don't 'black-bash' anyone - I set the record straight about land grabs and such... insanity like demanding control over land water and resources and thus ruling over everyone else...

I take it you have a real issue with the NT Coroner stating that 76 out of 81 women murdered in the NT since 2000 were Aboriginal?  truth too hard to handle?  All men must be subjugated because of the overwhelming predominance of 15-odd% of the population up there in such crimes - a figure that will most likely fit nicely with other states and territories, too?  Every kid in Alice Springs should suffer because of the antics of a few?

You do realise that if 15% of the total population up there are guilty of that level of murder - that means that Aboriginal women there are nearly 100 times more likely to be killed at home or in some relationship thing, don't you?  30.8% put the figure at 49 times - half that perp population is 98 times...... 98 times more likely to be killed than ALL others....got it?  and you call that 'black-bashing'?

Is it at all possible for you to actually grasp an issue?  Do you actually GAF about those Aboriginal women and children?  You are just another New Fascist - the perfect concentration camp guard.... a willing dupe just doing your job for the greater good ...

So you don't reckon that a Three State Solution is the answer to all this heebie-jeebie about rights and such and spirits wandering about being upset but never seen and such as long as that idea draws benefits, even down on the ocean floor where they've never seen?  I think you need to get out of your inner city enclave and see the real world for a change..... what is wrong with you, boy?
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Reply #131 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'


If a news outlet makes defamatory comments about you, it would be easy to make a defamation lawsuit against them. Other than Wilkinson's implied association of Lehrmann as a rapist -- although I cannot make a definite connection -- it is difficult to ignore having your name dragged through the mud.
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Reply #132 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:39pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'


If a news outlet makes defamatory comments about you, it would be easy to make a defamation lawsuit against them. Other than Wilkinson's implied association of Lehrmann as a rapist -- although I cannot make a definite connection -- it is difficult to ignore having your name dragged through the mud.


It already had been in the criminal trial process, and he managed to escape the lion's den.

He went back for his hat, and got badly mauled this time.
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Reply #133 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?


You might.


If you experience something for the first time, you might wonder how things go. Lehrmann, I guess, you have not met in your life? Higgins, too? You did not witness what went on in the Parliament House, away from security cameras?

Therefore, you do need to know what happened in order to make a credible judgement. Circumstantial evidence is not enough.
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Reply #134 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:43pm
 
A judge rules on defamation by finding whether stuff happened. He gets paid for it, someone has to collect the $ 1/2 million. Lehrmann wanted lolly big time.
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Reply #135 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:43pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'


If a news outlet makes defamatory comments about you, it would be easy to make a defamation lawsuit against them. Other than Wilkinson's implied association of Lehrmann as a rapist -- although I cannot make a definite connection -- it is difficult to ignore having your name dragged through the mud.


Defamation case against the 'judge'?

Everyone with any sense will tell you that the greatest guards need to be set against government and quasi-government abuse of power and privilege..... our 'founding fathers' had that very much in mind when they formed OUR Constitution...

Government and its agencies - including 'courts' stacked with political activists or any kind - enjoy massive power through holding Billions of your money while you have little, and through holding direct power and even acceptance by a blinded community who know no better.

Look at the apologists for this 'judge's' comment here....

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Reply #136 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:43pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:39pm:
It already had been in the criminal trial process, and he managed to escape the lion's den.

He went back for his hat, and got badly mauled this time.


Lehrmann was victimised by an allegation that could not be proven, even though the complainant had plenty of opportunity to make a case against Lehrmann.

If I said that you robbed me of $60, would it be up to you to prove that you did not?
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Reply #137 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:54pm
 
Yadda says Trump is forgiven in heaven. Islam says women are guilty. Judges say 'gimme gimme'. Lehrmann says his bank acount is ready and waiting. (it's down a bit paying for the girl's grog).
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Reply #138 - May 26th, 2024 at 4:56pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:39pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'


If a news outlet makes defamatory comments about you, it would be easy to make a defamation lawsuit against them. Other than Wilkinson's implied association of Lehrmann as a rapist -- although I cannot make a definite connection -- it is difficult to ignore having your name dragged through the mud.


It already had been in the criminal trial process, and he managed to escape the lion's den.

He went back for his hat, and got badly mauled this time.


No criminal trial was heard - the single statement made long after the event was never examined let alone contested properly - and he did not go back for his hat - he claimed that his name had been defamed and the 'judge', who had no right or legal reason to say he was guilty, tripled down, using the safety of his position to preclude his own punishment for such a vile action against Law.
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Reply #139 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:03pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
A judge rules on defamation by finding whether stuff happened. He gets paid for it, someone has to collect the $ 1/2 million. Lehrmann wanted lolly big time.


Well - a certain unnamed other party - let's just call her Britts Witness B - collected a few lazy millions on the basis of some very flimsy assertions.... many of which assertions are now being tested with an ADEQUATE body of evidence in a similar court for a similar reason.

Let's Just Call her Britts (Witness B) clearly has set about precluding the loss of her payout - by putting it into a trust fund ... meaning it is not 'legally' hers any more but is owned by the 'trust' from which she directly benefits**.  That shows a lot of premeditation and clear thought, don' cha think?  Hardly 'broken down' for life and unable to work etc.... even with her new job...

Reynolds has witnesses.... in the room at the time ..... there's the difference.... I suppose that's why Reynolds will not accept any negotiated settlement... she wants her pound of flesh and blood for the assault on her name.

Now then, my fine feathered friends - see the comparisons between a Complainant R case and a Complainant B case?  Complainant B was called upon to PROVE his innocence when there were no independent witnesses, and uphold the assertion that wrong had been done to him - and had no chance with a prejudiced 'judge' prepared to assume guilt on accusation alone .....  Witness B is being called upon to justify her assertions about events that took place in front of witnesses ..... interesting.... very interesting.


** another clear reason for a full review of 'trusts' -  Henri?  Where are you? Vere iss our Voortrekker?
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Reply #140 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:07pm
 
I want Grappler to be a judge. He's eloquent, good with blacks, better with whites, calm, moderate and is cheap.
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Reply #141 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:23pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:07pm:
I want Grappler to be a judge. He's eloquent, good with blacks, better with whites, calm, moderate and is cheap.


~ and yet, stupid.
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Reply #142 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:25pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:07pm:
I want Grappler to be a judge. He's eloquent, good with blacks, better with whites, calm, moderate and is cheap.


Never met a black I didn't like.  I'm as friendly with them as anyone else around town... I don't trust many whites anyway.... I'm aware of the facts of mental illnesses and women's predominance in those (hmmm - the 'transgender' thing?) ... I can bite as well as the next man when aroused, but I'm a sweetie by nature... I am very middle of the road and am happy to accept the poor pay of a judge along with all the perks....  what is that now?  I dunno - 5-6 grand a week and the best super in the land etc, and all costs paid?

Well over 400 grand a year anyway... wait a minute..... that's about eight grand a week.... I missed my vocation..  WTF???
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Reply #143 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:26pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:07pm:
I want Grappler to be a judge. He's eloquent, good with blacks, better with whites, calm, moderate and is cheap.


~ and yet, stupid.


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Reply #144 - May 26th, 2024 at 6:13pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?


You might.


If you experience something for the first time, you might wonder how things go. Lehrmann, I guess, you have not met in your life? Higgins, too? You did not witness what went on in the Parliament House, away from security cameras?

Therefore, you do need to know what happened in order to make a credible judgement. Circumstantial evidence is not enough.


Taking women out is not a new experience,  not even for crappler. Even he knows you don't ply women with alcohol,  take them to an empty office and then leave them there,  passed out, naked.
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Reply #145 - May 26th, 2024 at 7:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:13pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?


You might.


If you experience something for the first time, you might wonder how things go. Lehrmann, I guess, you have not met in your life? Higgins, too? You did not witness what went on in the Parliament House, away from security cameras?

Therefore, you do need to know what happened in order to make a credible judgement. Circumstantial evidence is not enough.


Taking women out is not a new experience,  not even for crappler. Even he knows you don't ply women with alcohol,  take them to an empty office and then leave them there,  passed out, naked.


And you have gone there (a) to get your keys, (b) to make some notes for Question Time (not due for a fortnight) about a conversation concerning French subs and said conversations never occurred that night, and you never produced any of those notes in evidence or (c) because there was whiskey there or (d) because there was whisky there and you wanted that to assist you to root a drunk woman, your subordinate whom you found only as 'alluring' as any other person in the Court Room, the woman you have been plying with piss all night, a woman you have taken there in your own hire ride, and while you were there, you did not answer any of SIX phone calls your girlfriend made to your phone....while you were raping Higgins.

The same Higgins who was later found semi naked alone in that Suite in a drunken stupor, the same Higgins who within days told associates she had been raped.

Yeah.  Bruce is as pure as the driven snow, and did nothing with a helpless pissed woman he schemed to get alone in the one 'safe' place he knew was available and to which he could lure her without getting her suspicious, his work place and hers, on the pretext he had work to do there, or had whiskey there.

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Reply #146 - May 26th, 2024 at 7:31pm
 
If I take a woman into my office to get my keys, you can guarantee I wouldn't leave her there passed out and naked. And I certainly wouldn't be worried about questions to ask  at work the next week. At the very least, if i have nothing to hide, I'd call security and ask them to make sure she got home safely.  Afterall,  wasn't that one of his excuse for bringing her there in the first place? To make sure she got home OK?

Shows what sort of man crappler is that he would even entertain such a bullshit excuse.
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Reply #147 - May 26th, 2024 at 7:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 7:31pm:
If I take a woman into my office to get my keys, you can guarantee I wouldn't leave her there passed out and naked. And I certainly wouldn't be worried about questions to ask  at work the next week. At the very least, if i have nothing to hide, I'd call security and ask them to make sure she got home safely.  Afterall,  wasn't that one of his excuse for bringing her there in the first place? To make sure she got home OK?

Shows what sort of man crappler is that he would even entertain such a bullshit excuse.


Stop it.  You'll bewilder Grappler with common sense.
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Reply #148 - May 26th, 2024 at 7:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 7:31pm:
If I take a woman into my office to get my keys, you can guarantee I wouldn't leave her there passed out and naked. And I certainly wouldn't be worried about questions to ask  at work the next week. At the very least, if i have nothing to hide, I'd call security and ask them to make sure she got home safely.  Afterall,  wasn't that one of his excuse for bringing her there in the first place? To make sure she got home OK?

Shows what sort of man crappler is that he would even entertain such a bullsh[s]it excuse. [/s]


You wanted him to carry her out?  She's a big girl and an expanding proposition .... I'll bet he's somewhere on the autistic scale - got piggy eyes you see ....... and he was drunk and maybe expected those female 'security' staff to do their job and his for him....  maybe he figured she was safe enough passed out on the couch with security all around twiddling their thumbs and doing their nails .... who would have expected they'd imitate a tortoise going in the opposite direction?

I already said months ago that if he'd been a gentleman he'd have gotten her out and home safe... but he wasn't on trial for not being a gentleman..... grow up, smith.... before the boogieman under the bed gets you.

I've outlined their failings.... love it or leave it.... what kind of 'man' is smith to come along and condemn people like Complainant B?
Even the Eld Gel here - a serious right winger and a feminist type forever whining about how hard things are - said that 'judge' had no right to say what he did.

This kind of thing certainly revs women up into their forms of violence .... and fuels the drive to remove legal protections from any accused... might as well get started on Gondwanamo Bay (Gon'Mo) - but we're gonna need a bigger facility up there on the west side of Cape York... surrounded by Abestine ... guards given dividie jobs from that demographic and carrying spears etc.... now then - that island for politicians and their tame contracted 'public servants' who lick their balls and make all the decisions behind our backs over disposing of our lands and rights and water and resources and so forth....


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Reply #149 - May 26th, 2024 at 8:02pm
 
**repeats** unlike you pair - I said months ago that if he'd been a gentleman he would have seen her home safely - but he was not on trial for not being a gentleman.... you pair were just after his blood from day one.... piggy eyes, you see ....

You pair just sat around and scratched your balls like those 'security' sheilas did and carried on like bonobos....  ooooh - here's a juicy one - you must have had a great time discussing it with the CWA .... given that you're a pair of old sheilas....

oooOOOOOHHHHH!!

OH???  Then how would you leave her there, Smith?  Tied up and gagged?  Chained to a chair?  Locked in a cupboard?  Sprawled and passed out on the carpet legs a-kimbo with no panties on (as she herself said)? Perhaps enjoying the view??

Nobody said Complainant B was as pure as the driven snow.... he may have had intentions.... she may have had intentions too .... intentions are not a crime just yet... but the Aussie Smith method of de-constructing minds and the New Laws will soon put an end to that... in Gondwanamo Bay ... soon it will be a Minority Report crime to think about something..... the Intuits will know before you do what you are thinking... clearly that 'judge' is one of those... and you will be guilty on denunciation by anyone of a specified group.....

Lot of that last going around... the Blecks screech 'racist' every time they turn around with their arses pointed to the ground... the New Poofs who don't know if they are Marthur or Artha screech 'bigots' etc... the Mussos and their enablers screech 'genocide'.... the sheilas whinge about being paid more per hour on average for each hour actually worked than men as some 'wage gap' ... some sheilas says 'rape' and away she goes .. a runaway train bound for the glory hole....

As long as you belong to a Specified Accredited Victimhood Status (SAVS) group you are home and hosed with any Goebbels type assertion...look, Ma - the Pole is attacking something or other .... the Pole is attacking something or other .... the Pole is attacking something or other .... the Pole is attacking something or other ....
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Reply #150 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:01pm
 
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Was that his only other option crappler? You said you worked as a boucer,  did you have to carry the drunk girls home?

You keep making excuses for rapists.
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Reply #151 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm
 
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Was that his only other option crappler? You said you worked as a boucer,  did you have to carry the drunk girls home?

You keep making excuses for rapists.


No.  And no... no rape has been proven.
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Reply #152 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:04am
 
Now then, poppets - let's look at this one in five women who suffer sexual violence.... starting with the worst state...

The NT ..... 30.8% of the population there, all one demographic, are responsible for 93% of the women deaths since 2000 ... it is a safe bet that all other forms of violence are in the same percentage... so yer Blecks in their communities (not my words - the Coroner's) are responsible for 93% ....so then we move to the next most likely demographic for sexual violence against women - the lunatic, wild-eyed, leso community (not all of them), which operates around domination and abuse... (go get pissed on in the shower) ....   remove the criminally minded - the Measters and Indios who feel sex is a right etc and abuse and rape (in some cases) are perfectly in order and the relatively few Wharte boys who engage in this kind of thing .....  ... and it's becoming fair to say that there are only a very few of such cases that are down to the group having the finger pointed at them.... majority white men.  Then there are repeat offenders.

If we extrapolate those figures on Blecks to the Civilised Tribes States- civilised because only 4% of them are Bleck Aussies though there are a high number of imports among offenders - say we divide that 93% by 7.5 (roughly 30.8% divided by 4%)- and for that tiny minority we still have a 13-odd% perpetration rate of sexual violence in that 'community', along with a similar rate of women deaths in those communities/social groups.

So let us look at the current approach to this and all other 'social issues' - I call it the Helicopter Approach  ... to achieve this you assemble a crowd of the group you WISH to target and create into perpetrators of your pet idea; crowd them into a stadium; bring in a chopper that hovers at 200 feet above them, and then throw the contents of an opened can of paint out of each side door into the raging slipstream ...... all those who are struck by paint are guilty of stealing paint..... easy as pie.  The ones who escape being hit?  Easy as pie - they are just cunning enough to not be splashed and rounded up, and thus are a greater danger.

On the other hand, people like my excellent self - who some love to abuse and name-call since they have nothing else to offer - asks - "Where are your facts and hard figures by demographic?  How do you ever expect to get to the roots(sic) of sexual violence unless you clearly identify your genuine perpetrators?".

Then - horror of horrors - we have to sort out and resolve all the false and wrongful complaints - the Lehrmann 'convictions' by accusation without proof - so - at the end of the day and as usual - there are precious few incidents left for the overwhelming majority.... but you must never let that deter you from attacking them all - especially when there are benefits in it like preference for sweet jobs, social standing, even rewards for 'coming forward bravely',  the opportunity for world domination if you are a lunatic feminist, and the clear opportunity to gain control over society in the West and reap the benefits you imagine will follow - even though the majority will never see those benefits.

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Reply #153 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am
 
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so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.
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It's the reason for having judges and juries. Otherwise, what? Search [Lehrmann guilty rape] and google tells you? Judge Google?
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Wilkinson's costs are an eye watering $M1.8.
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Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say?  He's got no hope...
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Reply #157 - May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
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so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.
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Once again ; 'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'

Sometimes a call has to be made and most sexual cases are like this one. It comes down to 49:51 and that's for liability for defamation, not criminal rape.
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Once again ; 'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'

Sometimes a call has to be made and most sexual cases are like this one. It comes down to 49:51 and that's for liability for defamation, not criminal rape.


Argh, aye - "lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Good to see you are onside with this idiotic 'judge' and his comment on 'rape'.  He has ruined a man's life with his idiotic statement, while at the same time pointing the finger at ALL other participants in this specific trial as being rather loose with the truth.

A complete idiot on the bench.... the principal on the other side - Witness B - is currently being dismantled and shown to be a skillful crook, having 'disappeared' her fat payout into a 'trust fund' where when she goes down over HER defamation, it cannot be touched.

Where is Andrei Hicks to set us all right on the virtues of 'trusts' again???  If they're so good why doesn't everyone have one?  Oh - sorry - they are only reserved for the 'betters' with more money and more to hide - an excellent reason to abolish them or make their owners directly responsible for them, thus allowing payment from them when those owners stuff up.

What goes around, comes around..... Andrei?  Over to you .....
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Reply #160 - May 27th, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
I don't make the laws, there's a little green man under parliament house who does that, getting on in years a bit. Lehrmann asked for a judicial opinion without first checking with Grappler.
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Jesus Christ - listen to this from a 'learned' judge on the bench:-

"Justice Lee found Lehrmann had defended the criminal charge of rape "on a false basis, lied to police and then allowed that lie to go uncorrected before the jury".

According to Lee he wasn't permitted to plead Not Guilty to the original criminal charge ..... clearly since he was guilty (???) he must have lied to police but Witness B didn't ... and then he allowed the matter to be dropped by the relevant court without confessing that they were wrong to do so since it allowed him to get off scot free since he was guilty!!!  I suppose he should have demanded the case be put back before the court and he would sweetly change his plea to guilty... Complainant B didn't drop the case.... why should he be pilloried for not "correcting ANYTHING before the non-existent jury"?  If he is INNOCENT there was nothing to correct and the Crown dropped the case, and rightly so.

HOW did this guy get to be a judge?  There are 'civil' standards and there are Civil Standards - and this fits the bill of none of them.  If our 'judicial' system were not so costly for the ordinary person, surely Complainant B would win on appeal.... but then - unlike Ten and Wilkinson - he doesn't have millions to waste on such things... just a poor boy..... ruining his life is nothing...............................

Now then - when is Lee going to be impeached?  Circular 'logic' doesn't cut it, Lee... recuse yourself from the bench - permanently.

If that last doesn't show you one thing that is dreadfully wrong with our 'judicial system' nothing will.

Finest use of the pussy here to gain unwarranted and unearned advantage... incredible in this day and age of 'equality' and 'equal treatment'  .... truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial... or no trial at all....

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Reply #162 - May 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm
 
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Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say?  He's got no hope...


I think he will be acquitted of the Toowoomba charge.

The events still do establish what a loser low life he is, and where he socialises and with whom.
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"lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Then you can't grasp the two levels of certainty. But you are qualified to be a Federal Court judge. And very loudly.
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Reply #164 - May 27th, 2024 at 3:54pm
 
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
"lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Then you can't grasp the two levels of certainty. But you are qualified to be a Federal Court judge. And very loudly.
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Well - you see - there's a 'lesser degree of certainty' and there is NO certainty at all..... in this case the sole evidence was a single intoxicated statement made long after the event, not reported to authorities, no corroborating evidence, nothing whatsoever to support the simple assertion - and that is NO certainty at all in any court, civil or otherwise.

The only certainty in that 'court' was the biased and politically motivated 'opinion' of the 'judge'.

Would you equally apply the same standard to Witness B if she were charged with making a false complaint and public mischief etc?  You'd be in the baying and mindless crowd screeching from the rooftops about such vile treatment - the barbarians at the gates of the courts intimidating judges and all others with their screaming and threats of action and adverse media nonsense - but you'd hang Bruce on the same standard and see his life ruined, as you have done.

I, of course, would be saying the same thing - without substantial corroborating evidence and at least some action taken in a timely fashion, there is ZERO solid and reliable evidence by any standard to convict the girl.  That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way.

Just what kind of man are you?

A. - a Modern New Fascist.
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Reply #165 - May 27th, 2024 at 4:04pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say?  He's got no hope...


I think he will be acquitted of the Toowoomba charge.

The events still do establish what a loser low life he is, and where he socialises and with whom.


Yes - his piggy eyes give him away..... how do you find the high life in Toowoomba?  It's west of Ipswich, which is west of Brisbane, which is west of Redcliffe ..... I mean - where's the future and the high life in that?  A bit further out and you're in No Man's Land filled with cows and  mad cop shooters...

Again for the record - I always said that IF he did the deed - he was a low-life and a bloody worthless clown ... but that remains an IF - not any certainty by any means.... ergo - until proven guilty by the proper criminal standard he is innocent.  Now if Witness B had not sullied the waters... and security had  done their jobs ... and the couch wasn't unethically cleansed ....and a heap of other things had been done at the time......

I don't have to ply women with liquor to get them into the sack - they buy their own  and make their own decisions.... at my age and health... and usually hers unless I go get a sweet Chinese music professor or something ...  it could be the last one both of us make....
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Reply #166 - May 27th, 2024 at 4:17pm
 
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That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way.  Just what kind of man are you?
A. - a Modern New Fascist.

Yes I understand. The voices talk, the oven is spying on you. Stand your ground, you will win.
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Reply #167 - May 27th, 2024 at 5:14pm
 
chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way.  Just what kind of man are you?
A. - a Modern New Fascist.

Yes I understand. The voices talk, the oven is spying on you. Stand your ground, you will win.


Your desperation wrought by your inability to counter a valid discussion of reality is noted......

Under no circumstances must any court be swayed by a baying crowd at the door, by any threat of a Punch and Judy Show in the media, by pressure to achieve a politically desired result, by considerations of the perceived social value of those appearing, by appearance and dress code of those attending, or by questions of gender or anything else of those before the court... a court properly constituted may only be swayed by provable and proven facts fully and properly corroborated to the proper standard - and not by rhetoric, suggestion, innuendo, supposition, assumption or anything else.  (Never assume - you start by making an ass of U....)

It breaks my heart to see Wilkinson suffer $1.8m - I recall that her big huff over 'gender wage gap' was when Karl Stefanovic received $2m and she only $1.8m pa negotiated salary for appearing in the same show.... it's hard to be that well looked after and still be behind someone else - must be 'scrimination, eh? .....

Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?
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Except it was not mere 'accusation.'  There was a whole lot more which you keep ignoring because it just does not suit your flambouyant yet tortured rhetoric.

This Lehrmann matter is not an appropriate vehicle for you to use in your Quixotic campaign against female windmills.
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
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so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.


I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine
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Reply #170 - May 27th, 2024 at 5:59pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:14pm:
Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Yes Mr Grappler. Was there some incident involving yourself and an Aboriginal girl?
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chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:59pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:14pm:
Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Yes Mr Grappler. Was there some incident involving yourself and an Aboriginal girl?


???????

Huh  My plan was to have one of each race before I go - still missed a few - including Aboriginal ... might seem strange in this country but that's how it is...
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John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
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so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.


I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine


Under no circumstances can you ever be reasonably satisfied... to apply reason you need facts to work on and from ....so you are merely satisfied in your own mind - i.e. prejudice, since you have no facts.

You are welcome....at Grappler U we try to enlighten our students as much as possible.
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Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?


Except it was not mere 'accusation.'  There was a whole lot more which you keep ignoring because it just does not suit your flambouyant yet tortured rhetoric.

This Lehrmann matter is not an appropriate vehicle for you to use in your Quixotic campaign against female windmills.


NOT 'mere' accusation'?  Pray tell then - what is this 'whole lot more'?

I'm sure the room here is waiting with bated breath.... in the comments on one thing put out about costs to El Bruce - many commented on this ..... Quixotic lunge by that 'judge' and the lack of hard evidence ...

What is this WHOLE LOT MORE?

Footnote:-  If this is indeed 'quixotic' on my part ........... why do you refer to them as female windmills?  We argue not with principalities of men and women here - but with principalities of good and evil.... do try to follow - MOST women do not receive any benefit from all this power enhancement thrown their way - they get to slave away at work and in the home, and most end up with not that much UNLESS they are in a fixed and steady relationship for a lifetime or near...... even with all the pitfalls of that....

They're not all get-rich quick' monsters like yond feminists etc... with their incredible sense of entitlement..... but due to their own following blindly along the same paths in life - they end up in the dead ends while the get-rich-quickers end up in clover - which is, of course, the aim of the GRQs all along...

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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 2:41pm:
truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial.

Strangely enough, Ben Roberts-Smith had the same sort of defamation decision. He was beheaded by witch-hunters, empowered women and assorted fascists and hysterical screechers. Lehrmann 'piggy' Porkies will be roasted in whisky and finger licking.
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John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
No.



so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.


I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine


Or a court of Law it seems. Undecided
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Setanta wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:49pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
No.



so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.


I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine


Or a court of Law it seems. Undecided


A court of law said he did rape her  but that's irrelevant.  You might need a court of law to tell you what to think.  I prefer to think for myself
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Reply #177 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:56pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
No.



so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.


I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine


Under no circumstances can you ever be reasonably satisfied... to apply reason you need facts to work on and from ....so you are merely satisfied in your own mind - i.e. prejudice, since you have no facts.

You are welcome....at Grappler U we try to enlighten our students as much as possible.


You'll never see the facts if you don't pull your head out of your arse
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Grappler seems to argue that when a judge is asked to decide facts, he's forbidden to embarrass (behead) people. This suggests Grapps is a Karen, poor man.
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chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:26pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 2:41pm:
truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial.

Strangely enough, Ben Roberts-Smith had the same sort of defamation decision. He was beheaded by witch-hunters, empowered women and assorted fascists and hysterical screechers. Lehrmann 'piggy' Porkies will be roasted in whisky and finger licking.


Nice glaze brushed over as he's rotated on the spit... spuds in the ash below roasting nicely ...
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The two of them are naughty boys. Grapps is also.
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chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 9:01pm:
Grappler seems to argue that when a judge is asked to decide facts, he's forbidden to embarrass (behead) people. This suggests Grapps is a Karen, poor man.


In a civil case of defamation he cannot judge on a criminal allegation - he may only determine whether or not defamation has occurred... from what I read, Wilkinson had a couple of defences - she didn't initially name him, and her blurb was granted editorial approval ... befehlen ist befehlen, no?

Bruce's case against her was that it was clear who was under discussion even though he was not named until after the story broke in mainstream media and names were bandied about like bids in an Abo discussion about past genocides and massacres against them or a feminist talkfest about how they were soooo oppressed by men etc......

All that judge had to do - and was entitled to do - was say that Bruce's case did not meet the standard for defamation - again - the judge had no right to comment on Bruce's guilt or innocence in the allegation of rape, since that was the province of another court - which abandoned that case, and rightly so given the lack of supported evidence.

God, some of you are easily confused by propagandists - even those of you who claim to be lawyers... in short, you must not buy into the idea that any individual can be made guilty simply because someone says they are.

There was a case many years ago where a man spent twelve years behind bars for a murder on the basis of what one of his camp mates - a woman who loved a drink - said when she was drunk - when she would start in on him saying that 'she knew he'd killed that bloke' ... when in fact he had been nowhere near the town where that occurred.  It was just the drink speaking.... and when she repeated this to police who ignored all exculpatory evidence - it cost him twelve years of his life, the ruination of his mental health as a result, and the State of NSW something in the order of a million pounds or equivalent in today's money for the trials and compensation .... he still died too young in a boarding house in Sydney with shattered mental health....

You cannot - as a member of a civilisation governed by OUR law - and a judge or magistrate must not by our law -  judge anyone on anything but the provable and proven facts.... a judge or magistrate must not express a personal opinion on guilt or innocence in a case not under his/her immediate jurisdiction, especially in a civil matter ...  and even the idea that two persons of standing in the community saying the exact same thing was ... a lie.... something I installed in the NSW courts in 1984 by cross-examining three police officers who told the same story to a word.  NO two witnesses ever see exactly the same thing.... that is a fundamental part of police training....

This is not remotely comparable with the Roberts-Smith thing where there were at least a number of independent witnesses offering different viewpoints.... and even then not one of those said he was actually present at the time of commission of any alleged crime by the complainant in that civil matter .... Tercius.... it's always some guy heard it from some guy who knew some guy ... or it's always he went around the corner and I heard shots.... later on the locals complained of a body..... who, in that climate, could as easily have been killed by a hostile tribal member or the Taliban on suspicion of being a 'traitor'... or it's a John Smith here who says he reckons he done it but wasn't even close at the time ...

Of course BR-S must be guilty - he upset a schoolboy by roasting him for not bringing necessary equipment to keep his light machine gun in action during a fire fight... similar to young Hastie, the fearless SAS Captain - who was shattered and quit after discovering that in order to ID a probable high value target, one of the troops he was controlling from the C&C bird high above, had removed the guy's hand for fingerprints.  Many years ago as well I warned the SAS about recruiting standards.... especially the practice of recruiting of exceptional people straight from basic..... the British do not go near that for their regular Regiment...
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This is not remotely comparable with the Roberts-Smith thing where there were at least a number of independent witnesses offering different viewpoints...

A barrister like you would know that 'fact' is different from 'procedure'.
'Justice Besanko found the publisher had proven allegations Mr Roberts-Smith was involved in four murders during deployment were substantially true to the civil standard, along with an allegation of bullying.'
'The defence of justification was previously known as the defence of truth. The defence states that if a defendant can prove that the defamatory imputations of which the plaintiff complains are substantially true, then the defence of justification is made out.'
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:06pm:
Aussie wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
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Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?


Except it was not mere 'accusation.'  There was a whole lot more which you keep ignoring because it just does not suit your flambouyant yet tortured rhetoric.

This Lehrmann matter is not an appropriate vehicle for you to use in your Quixotic campaign against female windmills.


NOT 'mere' accusation'?  Pray tell then - what is this 'whole lot more'?

I'm sure the room here is waiting with bated breath.... in the comments on one thing put out about costs to El Bruce - many commented on this ..... Quixotic lunge by that 'judge' and the lack of hard evidence ...

What is this WHOLE LOT MORE?

Footnote:-  If this is indeed 'quixotic' on my part ........... why do you refer to them as female windmills?  We argue not with principalities of men and women here - but with principalities of good and evil.... do try to follow - MOST women do not receive any benefit from all this power enhancement thrown their way - they get to slave away at work and in the home, and most end up with not that much UNLESS they are in a fixed and steady relationship for a lifetime or near...... even with all the pitfalls of that....

They're not all get-rich quick' monsters like yond feminists etc... with their incredible sense of entitlement..... but due to their own following blindly along the same paths in life - they end up in the dead ends while the get-rich-quickers end up in clover - which is, of course, the aim of the GRQs all along...



Read the Judgement and you will see it all set out beautifully.

Why did I describe the windmills you tilt at as female?  Because you have that forest on your shoulders.  A woman is a liar from the get go is where you start.
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Dear oh bloody dear!!!!! 


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In a civil case of defamation he cannot judge on a criminal allegation - he may only determine whether or not defamation has occurred... from what I read, Wilkinson had a couple of defences - she didn't initially name him, and her blurb was granted editorial approval.


The Judge found that the programme did indeed identify Lehrmann, and thus...enter Step 2, given Lehrmann got past that Step, 1.


Grappler, Google 'truth defence' to defamation.

Both Ch 10 and Wilkinson raised it and integral to deciding whether it was successfully raised is a decision on whether um, er, ah, um,..............guess what.....whether he raped her!
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/bruce-lehrmann-to-appeal-after-failed-d...

He's appealing... wonder what the appeal will say about that 'judge's' comment?

Heeeey - Brittanny married Sharaz ... is there a sweep on how long it will last?  She does like porkers with piggy eyes and questionable morals.....
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Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 9:19am:
Dear oh bloody dear!!!!! 


Quote:
In a civil case of defamation he cannot judge on a criminal allegation - he may only determine whether or not defamation has occurred... from what I read, Wilkinson had a couple of defences - she didn't initially name him, and her blurb was granted editorial approval.


The Judge found that the programme did indeed identify Lehrmann, and thus...enter Step 2, given Lehrmann got past that Step, 1.


Grappler, Google 'truth defence' to defamation.

Both Ch 10 and Wilkinson raised it and integral to deciding whether it was successfully raised is a decision on whether um, er, ah, um,..............guess what.....whether he raped her!


That 'truth' had no proof of life.... it was never proven .....  I'll wait on the appeal that I predicted would happen  after that comment.
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Reply #188 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 8:32pm
 
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Heeeey - Brittanny married Sharaz ... is there a sweep on how long it will last?  She does like porkers with piggy eyes and questionable morals.....


After what Bruce did to Brittany, I wonder if David can make Brittany feel anything.

Emotionally, I mean.
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 8:12pm:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/bruce-lehrmann-to-appeal-after-failed-d...

He's appealing... wonder what the appeal will say about that 'judge's' comment?

Heeeey - Brittanny married Sharaz ... is there a sweep on how long it will last?  She does like porkers with piggy eyes and questionable morals.....


$30,000 for the bloody wedding dress???

Just a small private affair  Grin.... 2 page spread in the Sunday Mail.... what a waste of paper.

All on the taxpayers dime($2.4 million payout)because she'll never work again... she hasn't stopped working since the incident.

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Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 9:19am:
Dear oh bloody dear!!!!! 


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In a civil case of defamation he cannot judge on a criminal allegation - he may only determine whether or not defamation has occurred... from what I read, Wilkinson had a couple of defences - she didn't initially name him, and her blurb was granted editorial approval.


The Judge found that the programme did indeed identify Lehrmann, and thus...enter Step 2, given Lehrmann got past that Step, 1.


Grappler, Google 'truth defence' to defamation.

Both Ch 10 and Wilkinson raised it and integral to deciding whether it was successfully raised is a decision on whether um, er, ah, um,..............guess what.....whether he raped her!


That 'truth' had no proof of life.... it was never proven .....  I'll wait on the appeal that I predicted would happen  after that comment.


Wanna predict the outcome of the appeal we all knew would happen?

It will fail miserably.
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Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 12:04pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 8:14pm:
Aussie wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 9:19am:
Dear oh bloody dear!!!!! 


Quote:
In a civil case of defamation he cannot judge on a criminal allegation - he may only determine whether or not defamation has occurred... from what I read, Wilkinson had a couple of defences - she didn't initially name him, and her blurb was granted editorial approval.


The Judge found that the programme did indeed identify Lehrmann, and thus...enter Step 2, given Lehrmann got past that Step, 1.


Grappler, Google 'truth defence' to defamation.

Both Ch 10 and Wilkinson raised it and integral to deciding whether it was successfully raised is a decision on whether um, er, ah, um,..............guess what.....whether he raped her!


That 'truth' had no proof of life.... it was never proven .....  I'll wait on the appeal that I predicted would happen  after that comment.


Wanna predict the outcome of the appeal we all knew would happen?

It will fail miserably.


Not if the judge is dispassionate and rules strictly according to Law, in which case he should lay down that no conclusion was evident and thus no conviction by any standard could apply.  I notice some online are revving up for the hanging before the Toowoomba trial....  kill the pig - drink his blood....

I can't wait to see you enablers of this monstrosity destruction of genuine legal rights (already tenuous enough in the hands of zealots) become victims of your own hubris one day..... and face trial on the basis of an accusation alone which will convict you ....
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no conclusion was evident and thus no conviction by any standard could apply. 

'Ms Anderson pushed open the office door.
"As I've opened the door, I've noticed that the female was lying on her back, completely naked, on the lounge that was adjacent to the door, for which I've gone, 'Oh,'" she told Four Corners.'
The female said 'hi' and went on typing her letter to the judge saying she was always naked, drunk and being raped in Parliament, it's a wonderful career path.
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chimera wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:08pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:13pm:
no conclusion was evident and thus no conviction by any standard could apply. 

'Ms Anderson pushed open the office door.
"As I've opened the door, I've noticed that the female was lying on her back, completely naked, on the lounge that was adjacent to the door, for which I've gone, 'Oh,'" she told Four Corners.'
The female said 'hi' and went on typing her letter to the judge saying she was always naked, drunk and being raped in Parliament, it's a wonderful career path.


So - chain of evidence...... who took her clothes off?

"As I've opened the door, I've noticed that the female was lying on her back, completely naked, on the lounge that was adjacent to the door, for which I've gone, 'Oh,'" she told Four Corners."

" ....oh - but I couldn't smell the sweet smell of sex.... and I then decided to just leave her there to sleep it off..... and this was the second time one of us looked in on her - the first time she had a skirt pulled up and no panties on.....though she herself later admitted to not wearing panties on the night... somehow later she became totally naked.... after the bloke had long left ..... the Invisible Man stripped her naked, it seems ...."

"Bruce had left a couple of hours earlier... but we didn't bother to check on her for two hours or more.... we are, after all, women in the workforce and here for the tea and biscuits and not to actually do the work or even think about it... normally people left sleeping in the minister's office(s) do not choke on their own vomit or anything.... anything... anything ..... no smell of raunch ... and apparently Bruce's girlfriend didn't notice he'd been rooting when he got home ....."


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. who took her clothes off?

Not Bruce the staffer who needed the girl's expertise in handling his urgent office-work. Drunk, shoeless girls have insights at 10pm on the couch which become ministerial documents. They can strip arguments down to bare facts.
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chimera wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:42pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:31pm:
. who took her clothes off?

Not Bruce the staffer who needed the girl's expertise in handling his urgent office-work. Drunk, shoeless girls have insights at 10pm on the couch which become ministerial documents. They can strip arguments down to bare facts.



2pm after a load of booze is much better... frees the imagination..
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Statistics prove that effective legislation is produced between 1-5am using one shot of spirits per page. The punch-line is delivered around dawn in a drunken stupor.
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Reply #197 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:43pm
 
chimera wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Statistics prove that effective legislation is produced between 1-5am using one shot of spirits per page. The punch-line is delivered around dawn in a drunken stupor.


That would explain our political class to some extent - but not too sure about that 'effective legislation'.   Huh
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Reply #198 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:47pm
 
Bruce was. He had Brittany lined-up and vocalising.
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Reply #199 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:15pm
 
chimera wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:47pm:
Bruce was. He had Brittany lined-up and vocalising.


If anyone were to ask my personal OPINION - I'd say they went there for a root... apart from that I have no idea what actually happened in that room etc - and neither does anyone else.  Certainly ALL parties went out of their way to cloud any truth, so that doesn't leave much to work on.

I always said that under ACT Law, which governs PH for ordinary law - it is an offence to root a drunken woman... even if she roots you .... drunken men are fair game - Aye - Rub Out The Bruce!!

We still, as a society, live partly in the Dark Ages when it comes to genuine equalities and equal treatment - and continue to adhere to the ancient primate thing of protecting the central core group of women and children while treating the majority of men as expendable, something still carried to an extreme in certain small village/tribal cultures.  In a society allegedly governed by reason and equal laws, this still means that women are lesser beings in need of protection.  It is bizarre.
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Reply #200 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:18pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:15pm:
men as expendable

Bruce was expended, mostly on whisky and this exhausted him.
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Reply #201 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:44pm
 
chimera wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:18pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:15pm:
men as expendable

Bruce was expended, mostly on whisky and this exhausted him.


I was wondering about Distiller's Droop .... the spirit was willing but the spirits interfered ....
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