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Reply #105 - May 25th, 2024 at 9:49pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 8:06pm:
Aussie wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.


A beach ball with piggy eyes and Roy Orbison glasses?  What hope has he got in a modern day Australian court against a vague accusation by a woman who is being publicly pilloried AGAIN right now and whose integrity is being challenged over and over?

The piggy eyes do it every time.... kill the pig - drink his blood...  you infants are just like those kids in Lord of The Flies.... just rush around like lunatics without a single thought in your heads....

That's why kids can't decide if they are girls or boys ....


Nothing vague about the accusation, as the Judge found.

And your narrative is just not working. Even "beach balls with piggy eyes and Roy Orbison glasses" can be rapists and you have way overcooked the Lord of the Flies thing.  It is not cleverly profound Grappler, but I know you think it is.
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Reply #106 - May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm
 
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.
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Reply #107 - May 25th, 2024 at 10:45pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


Political movement? Grin Grin Grin
He said that in all likelihood Lehrmann raped her.  That's not a political movement,  that's just stating the obvious.   Cheesy
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #108 - May 25th, 2024 at 11:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:45pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


Political movement? Grin Grin Grin
He said that in all likelihood Lehrmann raped her.  That's not a political movement,  that's just stating the obvious.   Cheesy


There you go - he did not have the evidence to support such a statement.... but should instead have given equal weight to both sides given the utter lack of any other evidence.  When he clearly sides with the demand for 'guilt by accusation' and actually fuels that push to destroy legal rights, he is deserving of censure and probably dismissal.

By insinuation now he has prejudiced the outcome of a trial against Let's Call Him Bruce based on pretty much the same level of 'evidence' and has pre-disposed the minds of any jury or judge to find guilt where the evidence does not support that.

Not even you are that blind and stupid.  Oh - wait a minute...


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Reply #109 - May 26th, 2024 at 2:42am
 
'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'
Lehrmann never met her, she's not his type and he paid cash hush-money or his lawyer did or someone didn't and the judge is crook.
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Reply #110 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:25am
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You actually need to touch water to know that it's wet. Otherwise, how would you know without the experience?
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Reply #111 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:27am
 
Aussie wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.


The Justice System says he is after a fair trial.


Lehrmann denied having sex with Higgins. That is why Lehrmann is not doing time in prison for rape.
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Reply #112 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 8:03pm:
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 3:05pm:
But, you don't know if Lehrmann is a rapist.



Sure I do. Unlike some,  I don't need to touch water to know that it's wet.


You see - that's the problem - you've never touched Bruce's case... you weren't there.... you know nothing... so you can't know if it was wet or dry ... the old Mosaic Law would reject your stance entirely.....

Let us know when your time machine takes you back and you can get inside Parliament House on the night and at the time and place under consideration.....


The fact that I don't shove my head up my arse and ignore the evidence says that I know more than you


You might be more flexible than others. But, you are not dumb enough to commit yourself to shoving your head up your arse. The evidence that you ignore is that Brittany does not know if intercourse took place -- consensual or otherwise. Another piece of evidence is the fact that Brittany did not go to the police to do a rape kit to show that sexual intercourse took place.

There is plenty to read up about the case against Lehrmann. But the circumstantial evidence is just not enough to say that Lehrmann is a rapist. I doubt Lehrmann's innocence, too. But, it is not about proving Lehrmann's innocence. It is about proving his guilt.
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Reply #113 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.
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Reply #114 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.
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Reply #115 - May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.
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Reply #116 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


So he ignored the facts that Bruce presented?  The fact that all parties were loose with the truth?  Just had to dig desperately for one factoid to hang a man's entire life on?

The New Hanging Assizes should have their first victim - the judge.

These guys are way beyond themselves making law as they go along - I read last night of a decision that said, in effect, that the people's rejection of a political move (say, the voice) was insufficient to stop a government going ahead with it!!

Astonishing .... I've been calling for a royal commission into judiciary and jurisprudence for a very long time... for many reasons but basically because of their demolition of legal rights - but that is definitely becoming more and more urgent as time goes by.  They are supposed to be independent - not tools of the party in government on the day, not sucking down to the screaming pack at the door who demand that legal protections be removed so they can get at the accused and lynch him, are most especially not supposed to engage in legal lynchings, and are supposed to uphold the right and Rights - not alter them to suit.

I hold no brief for Bruce or anyone else in this sordid matter - but the clear and present danger from the judiciary is in front of your noses.... get with it.  They are but part of the dire peril this country is in at this time.

** Thirty-two years ago I warned the NSW 'Law reform Commission' that introducing their idea of 'domestic and apprehended violence laws' would lead to a diminution in the burden on judges and magistrates to actually find on proven and provable facts - especially in any case where a woman is the accuser and a man the accused.  This has come to pass.... I also pointed out that any genuine act of genuine violence was already actionable under existing law... to the then existing standard - which standard in itself was already perilously thin in the upholding of the rights of the defendant, in the hands of clearly biased and often incompetent 'magistrates' not even remotely drawn from the general populace and knowing what simple realities are, and in the overwhelmingly vast majority of cases, still hopelessly tied to the idea that 'the thin blue line' could never lie.  Then came royal commission after royal commission in state after state to PROVE how very much 'the thin blue line' DID lie as a matter of course.

Now far to many in the community, who have themselves never faced this atrocity of jurisprudence out of control of the Law,  suddenly feel that Law should be abandoned to favour a woman complainant, and a conviction made purely on the basis that 'women don't lie' - even though 10% of women and 5% of men will suffer a mental disorder that renders them incapable of knowing the difference.

Again I hold zero brief for the man on policies or politics - but look at what that did to one politician in the hands of a deeply schizophrenic woman whose very family rejected her claims.

Aussie knows this full well - he claims to have successfully defended one person accused of rape - and accused on much more substantial evidence than a single statement.... so what happened to Aussie after that?  He KNOWS 'the thin blue line' still lies and formulates a 'case' by often excluding relevant evidence and so forth - yet he leaps to the hang man's rope for Bruce on the basis of one single statement by an allegedly drunken woman, and ZERO other evidence.

Bruce has piggy eyes, etc, of course.... he looks like a rapist ... he had some sort of 'power' and we all know (wink, wink) that 'power' corrupts ...
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Reply #117 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:24pm
 
chimera wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 2:42am:
'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'
Lehrmann never met her, she's not his type and he paid cash hush-money or his lawyer did or someone didn't and the judge is crook.



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Reply #118 - May 26th, 2024 at 2:24pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
  When he clearly sides with the demand for 'guilt by accusation' and actually fuels that push to destroy legal rights, he is deserving of censure and probably dismissal.

by Grappler / DJ Trump.
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Reply #119 - May 26th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Aussie wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 11:45am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 10:13pm:
Very vague ... the judge in a civil matter had no right to say what he did.  He has over-stepped the boundaries of his office to engage in a political movement towards removal of legal rights, and must be stood down and punished.


I had not reviewed the video of the judge saying that Lehrmann is considered a rapist, or whatever was alleged he was to have said. But, had the judge said that Lehrmann is a rapist, then the judge should step down. I would have the guy disbarred.


His actual words were, 'Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins,' as he stared straight down the barrel of the camera.

He is paid to make findings of fact.  That's his day job.


If any judge made that comment about me, the judge would find themselves in very serious trouble. Judges are to make judgements based on evidence, not opinion.


Easy.  After you have escaped the lions den, 'do not go back for your hat.'
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