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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33491 Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #30 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 9:53am chimera wrote on Mar 21^st, 2024 at 1:00pm: Why were Britain and then US the world-policeman? Why do they jump into any wars they can with Oz right behind them? Would you have preferred the Russians or China to be the "worlds policemen"????
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #31 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 10:03am My comment is in the setting of 'democracies are peaceful'. The US had a War Department, like the UK. Not 'Defence' - 'war'.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53221 At my desk.	Re: democratic peace Reply #32 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 10:04am chimera wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 10:03am: My comment is in the setting of 'democracies are peaceful'. The US had a War Department, like the UK. Not 'Defence' - 'war'. So what?
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Reply #33 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:02pm

chimera wrote on Mar 21^st, 2024 at 5:44pm:

'It caused the resignation of the French Defence Minister Charles Hernu, while the two agents pleaded guilty to manslaughter and were sentenced to ten years in prison. France was also forced to apologise and had to pay reparations to New Zealand'.

Pacific islands don't fight each other, Muslim states rarely do, or African dictatorships or Sth American banana boys. Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan were minding their own business when the Yanks gate crashed the joint. The big killers are the Europeans, the poms did fire-bombing of civilian cities and yanks did the nukes, praise the lord.

You're a fricking joke.

Iran vs Iraq
Iraq vs Kuwait
Iraq vs Khurds
Houthis vs Yemini Govt
Roll Eyes

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Reply #34 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:06pm

To be fair, the Muslims are generally pre-occupied with killing their fellow citizens in large numbers. But on those occasions when they can get their poo together, they like to kill foreign Muslims on a much larger scale. They also dream of killing non-Muslim men and riding off on the women, and have done so on a massive scale in the past, but are generally impotent to do that today.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #36 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:14pm Gnads wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:02pm: Iran vs Iraq Iraq vs Kuwait Iraq vs Khurds Houthis vs Yemini Govt = 4. Between 1945-2024, the US has initiated 204 wars.
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Reply #37 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:17pm

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 10:04am:

So what?

oh nothing really. Usually, a 'war' is not 'peace'. It can be, but, in the phony war 1939 when poms wandered around looking for nazis in France. The War Department wanted peace.
So it fought a peaceful war against the elected leader of Egypt in 1956. The elected Israelis voted for war-peace in Suez.

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Reply #38 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:24pm

chimera wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:17pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 10:04am:

So what?

oh nothing really. Usually, a 'war' is not 'peace'. It can be, but, in the phony war 1939 when poms wandered around looking for nazis in France. The War Department wanted peace.
So it fought a peaceful war against the elected leader of Egypt in 1956. The elected Israelis voted for war-peace in Suez.

You realise that no-one is claiming that democracies never go to war, right?

Is this just an elaborate, idiotic strawman?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #39 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2024 at 10:27am: When was the last war that was fought with both sides of the conflict being liberal democracies? Q & A.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53221 At my desk.	Re: democratic peace Reply #40 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:21pm Have you decided to go from idiotic strawman to gibberish?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #41 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:46pm Q&A means 'question and answer'. You raised the question. My gibberish is the answer. democratic /ˌdɛməˈkratɪk/ adjective 1. relating to or supporting democracy or its principles. "democratic countries". peace /piːs/ 1."he just wanted to drink a few beers in peace" /piːs/ on the peace.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53221 At my desk.	Re: democratic peace Reply #42 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:53pm Quote: My gibberish is the answer. Ah.
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Reply #43 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:59pm

'There's NO democracy'

Aspirations of leaders in the WEST are NO different to the EAST:

Neil Oliver

We hear a lot about the matching butt cheeks
that are our political parties
And how left and right are meaningless terms
but you couldn’t get a cigarette paper
between the mainstream political parties
on account of them having merged into one anti-human blob
serving not us but the big corporations and unelected NGOs
that are their paymasters.
Well, it turns out the butt in question the big fat bottom
that is the authorities is growing bigger every moment
swelling to absorb even more.
By now East and West once confidently used as a shorthand
for the differences between totalitarianism and freedom
appear to be two more big flabby cheeks of the same backside.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: democratic peace Reply #44 - Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 4:30pm freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 3:53pm: Ah.
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