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Reply #750 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:38pm
 
Would the 'context' in which the question is presented change your answer on whether you think Marx was to blame for the Great Chinese Famine?
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Reply #751 - Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:39pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 28th, 2025 at 11:44am:
The World is at War.
USA & NATO & Great Britain are taking the initiative against China and Russia now.
Just like they have with Iran and Terrorists.

The World is now going to squeeze the puss out of Russia and China and force their hand.


The trouble with your theory is the "whole world" isn't the US, UK and NATO; and Trump has managed to alienate half the US population as well as allies (eg Japan whose car exports to the US have plummeted, and NATO countries whch don't want to increase defence spending, including Canada and Spain). 

Trump doesn't understand the real culprits in the world economy are Neooclassical economists - hence the bust up between Trump and Musk over the "Big Beautiful Bill" ...neither of them are economists either.

And China's technological progress is formidible...

But hopefully Trump CAN stop the Gaza war next week (as I read somewhere) after setting a ceasefire between Israel and Iran; but it will be years before NATO can threaten Russia with annihilation, as Trump did with Iran. 


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Reply #752 - Jul 1st, 2025 at 12:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:38pm:
Would the 'context' in which the question is presented change your answer on whether you think Marx was to blame for the Great Chinese Famine?


Of course, when the context is your absurd argument itself that Marx is to blame for Mao's policies.

You are desperately playing with words now, better for you  - and the world - if you recognize your ideology-based delusions.




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Reply #753 - Jul 1st, 2025 at 5:28pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 1st, 2025 at 12:23pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:38pm:
Would the 'context' in which the question is presented change your answer on whether you think Marx was to blame for the Great Chinese Famine?


Of course, when the context is your absurd argument itself that Marx is to blame for Mao's policies.

You are desperately playing with words now, better for you  - and the world - if you recognize your ideology-based delusions.


So I could get you to repeat the claim that Marx either was or wasn't responsible for the Great Chinese Famine, just by introducing the question differently?
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Reply #754 - Nov 18th, 2025 at 8:17am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 3:26pm:
The truth is China has sovereignty over Taiwan, as recognized by the UN.


This is an extraordinary bit of spin. It is based on the fact that China and Taiwan were one country back in 1945, which is when the UN recognised this reality. As the CCP slaughtered its way across mainland China (after stepping back and letting their opposition do all the fighting against the Japanese in WWII), the old government retreated to Taiwan in 1949, and they have been separate countries ever since. Somehow the little pinks have convinced themselves that because the UN acknowledged the reality that the Taiwanese government also controlled mainland China in 1945, this means the UN really acknowledges that the CCP owns Taiwan. By the same logic, the CCP owns the entire Mongolian Empire (once they find the paperwork).

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 12:03pm:
She a head banger who has suffered  brain damage after too much heavy-metal drumming.


This is about the Japanese Prime Minister. Apparently it is not a lie. It is the little pink's "own image", with a bit of meaningless gibberish about a "face value idiom". It this doesn't make sense to you, it is because you have insufficient neurons.

The CCP merely labels her an "evil witch". Like they are reading German fairytales to the Chinese people, not trying to run the country.
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Reply #755 - Nov 18th, 2025 at 8:56am
 
Certainly if the Palestinians want to go back to the 1940s the Chinese should be extended the same courtesy.
And Taiwan was certainly part of China back then.

And china lost about 20 million civilians to Japan in WW2 including thousands of women made sex slaves.

One couldn't blame them for a bit of revenge in the area.

Japan is certainly militarising rapidly as we speak.
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Reply #756 - Nov 18th, 2025 at 9:53am
 
Despite the Democrat propaganda to protect their trade routes around China, etc - like making Taiwan just another Korean and Vietnam war. Roll Eyes
Ho hum.

Taiwan (ROC) openly declares itself to own the mainland (and Mongolia) as much as the CCP declares to own Taiwan.

Are we really going to go down the same BS as Korea and Vietnam?
Where USA thinks it owns Asia. Wink
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Reply #757 - Nov 18th, 2025 at 10:37am
 
If the UN has any role to play in preventing conflict, it should be standing up for Taiwan.

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And Taiwan was certainly part of China back then.


And ruled by the Taiwanese regime. I doubt they would like that part.
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Reply #758 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 12:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2025 at 5:28pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 1st, 2025 at 12:23pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 29th, 2025 at 12:38pm:
Would the 'context' in which the question is presented change your answer on whether you think Marx was to blame for the Great Chinese Famine?


Of course, when the context is your absurd argument itself that Marx is to blame for Mao's policies.

You are desperately playing with words now, better for you  - and the world - if you recognize your ideology-based delusions.


So I could get you to repeat the claim that Marx either was or wasn't responsible for the Great Chinese Famine, just by introducing the question differently?


Another inane question emerging from your ideology-based delusions. 

Mao was responsible for the GCF, neither Marx (or Xi) are responsible. 




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Reply #759 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 18th, 2025 at 8:17am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 16th, 2025 at 3:26pm:
The truth is China has sovereignty over Taiwan, as recognized by the UN.


This is an extraordinary bit of spin.


How so?


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It is based on the fact that China and Taiwan were one country back in 1945,  which is when the UN recognised this reality.


Correct. 

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As the CCP slaughtered its way across mainland China (after stepping back and letting their opposition do all the fighting against the Japanese in WWII), the old government retreated to Taiwan in 1949, and they have been separate countries ever since.


Two errors:

1. The KMT who fled to Taiwan in 1949 claimed THEY were the sole government of China - until the UN disabused them of that delusion in 1971.

2. Only 12 countries (with a combined population of probably less than Sydney....) recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation.

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Somehow the little pinks have convinced themselves that because the UN acknowledged the reality that the Taiwanese government also controlled mainland China in 1945, this means the UN really acknowledges that the CCP owns Taiwan. By the same logic, the CCP owns the entire Mongolian Empire (once they find the paperwork).


More errors:

1. The UN acknowledges the One-China principle; and that Taiwan is not a sovereign nation. Therefore, Taiwan remains part of China.

2. The mongolian empire collapsed, and in China the Yuan dynasty fell to the Ming.


(google) The bubonic plague, fragmentation of the empire, leadership disputes, and mishandling of invasions all contributed to the fall of the Mongol Empire around 1368.

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This is about the Japanese Prime Minister. Apparently it is not a lie. It is the little pink's "own image", with a bit of meaningless gibberish about a "face value idiom". It this doesn't make sense to you, it is because you have insufficient neurons.

The CCP merely labels her an "evil witch". Like they are reading German fairytales to the Chinese people, not trying to run the country.


The Chinese are acutely aware of Japanese militarism which is rearing its ugly head again under the current low-IQ head-banger Takaichi.

As for the KMT on Taiwan, they like the CCP don't want war with their compatriots on the mainland:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3349383/imperialist-forces-divi...

Japan’s ‘imperialist forces’ divided Taiwan from mainland, KMT’s Cheng Li-wun says

Taiwanese opposition leader Cheng Li-wun blamed Japanese “imperialist forces” for dividing mainland China and Taiwan, as she paid tribute to Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat-sen at his mausoleum in Nanjing on Wednesday.

In a speech delivered after the Kuomintang (KMT) chairwoman laid a floral wreath before a statue of the founder of modern China, Cheng said Taiwan became a Japanese colony at a time of national weakness, following the 1895 defeat of China in the first Sino-Japanese war.

She said that after the 1911 revolution that overthrew the Qing dynasty (1644-1911), Taiwanese people were “filled with excitement”, with intellectuals hoping “a revitalised China would one day recover Taiwan and end Japanese colonial rule”.


...which they did, in 1945.

Spot the difference: the KMT leader is visiting the mainland at Xi's invitation, while Takaichi is determined to maintain the  division between the mainland and Taiwan, on ideological grounds.




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Reply #760 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
1. The KMT who fled to Taiwan in 1949 claimed THEY were the sole government of China - until the UN disabused them of that delusion in 1971.


Ah the UN disabused them. What were the metrics involved? How did they deem that? Solely on the numbers?

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
1. The UN acknowledges the One-China principle; and that Tawan is not a sovereign nation. Therefore, Taiwan is part of China.


According to the leftist UN. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
The Chinese are acutely aware of Japanese militarism which is rearing its ugly head again under the current low-IQ head-banger Takaichi. 



As opposed to mainland China's distinctly non-military agrression against other claimants of portions of the China Sea. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #762 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:39pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:18pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
1. The KMT who fled to Taiwan in 1949 claimed THEY were the sole government of China - until the UN disabused them of that delusion in 1971.


Ah the UN disabused them. What were the metrics involved? How did they deem that? Solely on the numbers?


UN res 2758.   (btw, rule of law is determined on numbers). 

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:03pm:
1. The UN acknowledges the One-China principle; and that Tawan is not a sovereign nation. Therefore, Taiwan is part of China.


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According to the leftist UN. Wink


According to blind, ideoligically crippled lee: the WHOLE UN, excpet for 12 tiny "nations".

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As opposed to mainland China's distinctly non-military agrression against other claimants of portions of the China Sea. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Unlike the current war-monger Japanese PM, Xi is determined to settle the SCS disputes via negotiation. It would help if the US butted out of the SCS, so China wouldn't have to build defences on rocks in the SCS while the US supplies arms to "democracy" ideologues seeking sovereignty in Taiwan.
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Reply #763 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:14pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:39pm:
UN res 2758.   (btw, rule of law is determined on numbers).



The rule of law may be determined by numbers. It doesn't mean the law is right. Except for the left of course. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:39pm:
According to blind, ideoligically crippled lee: the WHOLE UN, excpet for 12 tiny "nations".


And 12 nations don't count, Got it. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:39pm:
Unlike the current war-monger Japanese PM, Xi is determined to settle the SCS disputes via negotiation.


Negotiations start with trying to scare opponents with flybys. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:39pm:
It would help if the US butted out of the SCS, so China wouldn't have to build defences on rocks in the SCS while the US supplies arms to "democracy" ideologues seeking sovereignty in Taiwan.
Posted by: lee  Mark & Quote Quote      



You mean those underwater rocks that China built up to mini islands? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #764 - Apr 9th, 2026 at 2:31pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 9th, 2026 at 1:36pm:


The CCP isn't Marxist: in fact today there is a lively debate in economics re Neoclassical versus heterodox, MMT-aligned economics.

Hence Harvard-trained PBofC economists still think they must issue " long term bonds" to 'fund' government....despite deflation being the problem in China.

But back to Taiwan:

The Chinese are acutely aware of Japanese militarism which is rearing its ugly head again, under the current "democratic" war monger Takaichi.

As for the KMT, they - like the CCP - don't want war with their compatriots on the mainland:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3349383/imperialist-forces-divi...

Japan’s ‘imperialist forces’ divided Taiwan from mainland, KMT’s Cheng Li-wun says

Taiwanese opposition leader Cheng Li-wun blamed Japanese “imperialist forces” for dividing mainland China and Taiwan, as she paid tribute to Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat-sen at his mausoleum in Nanjing on Wednesday.

In a speech delivered after the Kuomintang (KMT) chairwoman laid a floral wreath before a statue of the founder of modern China, Cheng said Taiwan became a Japanese colony at a time of national weakness, following the 1895 defeat of China in the first Sino-Japanese war.

She said that after the 1911 revolution that overthrew the Qing dynasty (1644-1911), Taiwanese people were “filled with excitement”, with intellectuals hoping “a revitalised China would one day recover Taiwan and end Japanese colonial rule”.


...which they did in 1945, with Japan's defeat in WW2.

Spot the difference: the KMT leader is visiting the mainland at Xi's invitation, while Takaichi is determined to maintain the  division between the mainland and Taiwan, on delusional "democracy" ideological grounds.



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