MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 6:05am:



Plants grow or otherwise according to the season and climate.
Tides come and go according to something. (Maybe even the moon!)
Trees grow, get old and sick, some die. Seasons change, things happen.
Animals grow, mate and have little ones, some of these do the same, some do not.

The world continually alters, this is seen in all nature. Even in our globe itself. Our planets wobble is erratic.
The span of a year is not always 365 days, they even have leap seconds at times.
It's not according to strict guidelines, it is not chaotic.
It's flexible, it's whatever works at that time at that place.

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

So it is the definition of a triangle as a product of your mind, then.

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 9:13am:

You need to stop obsessing about Brian Ross...

Your mind doesn't extend to a triangle on a sphere where its angles can add to 270.

Axiom, in logic, an indemonstrable first principle, rule, or maxim, that has found general acceptance or is thought worthy of common acceptance whether by virtue of a claim to intrinsic merit or on the basis of an appeal to self-evidence.


Deduction, in logic, a rigorous proof, or derivation, of one statement (the conclusion) from one or more statements (the premises)—i.e., a chain of statements, each of which is either a premise or a consequence of a statement occurring earlier in the proof.


Inference, in logic, derivation of conclusions from given information or premises by any acceptable form of reasoning. Inferences are commonly drawn (1) by deduction, which, by analyzing valid argument forms, draws out the conclusions implicit in their premises, (2) by induction, which argues from many instances to a general statement, (3) by probability, which passes from frequencies within a known domain to conclusions of stated likelihood, and (4) by statistical reasoning, which concludes that, on the average, a certain percentage of a set of entities will satisfy the stated conditions.


Reason, in philosophy, the faculty or process of drawing logical inferences. The term “reason” is also used in several other, narrower senses. Reason is in opposition to sensation, perception, feeling, desire, as the faculty (the existence of which is denied by empiricists) by which fundamental truths are intuitively apprehended. These fundamental truths are the causes or “reasons” of all derivative facts.


A priori knowledge, in Western philosophy since the time of Immanuel Kant, knowledge that is acquired independently of any particular experience, as opposed to a posteriori knowledge, which is derived from experience. The Latin phrases a priori (“from what is before”) and a posteriori (“from what is after”) were used in philosophy originally to distinguish between arguments from causes and arguments from effects.


And so on and so forth.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 10:36am:

How so?

Provide a different set of axioms and let's see what can and cannot be deducted from them. The operation of logic is not going to change.

Axiom, in logic, an indemonstrable first principle, rule, or maxim, that has found general acceptance or is thought worthy of common acceptance whether by virtue of a claim to intrinsic merit or on the basis of an appeal to self-evidence.

'Completeness' doesn't come into it since that is a different category.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 11:12am:

Different axioms, different deductions.
But the deductions are not random.

Jasin wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 2:34pm:

Then what is truth?