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Re: When did the earth start warming?
Reply #15 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 2:10pm:
Dear lee,
considering that Greenland used to be green -  1,000 years ago -
we have had higher temperatures than we have now in recent geological history.




Bobby, this is BS.

What's True
The southern fjords of Greenland see some vegetation in the summer months. However...

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Greenland was primarily an ice-covered island when it was discovered by Erik the Red in the 10th century. He chose the name "Greenland" to encourage settlers to the area.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greenland-called-green-land/
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Re: When did the earth start warming?
Reply #16 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:06pm
 
Hi Super Nova,
from a link from your link:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/proof-on-ice-southern-greenland-green...


July 5, 2007

Proof on Ice: Southern Greenland Was Once Green; Earth Warmer



Using ice cores from Antarctica and Greenland, researchers have extended the climate record back 800,000 years and have shown that the world's largest island may have been sealed in ice for at least that long

By David Biello

In 1981 researchers removed a long tube of ice from the center of a glacier in southern Greenland at a site known as Dye 3. More than a mile (two kilometers) long, the deep end of the core sample had been crushed by the pressure of the ice above it and sullied by contact with rock and soil. By destroying the pattern of annual layers, this contamination seemingly made it impossible to assess the region's ancient climate. But DNA extracted from the previously ignored dirty bottom has revealed that Greenland was not only green, it boasted boreal forests like those found in Canada and Scandinavia today.

Biologist Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen and an international team of colleagues discovered DNA from alder, spruce, pine and yew trees at the glacier's base as well as insects ranging from butterflies to spiders. This is the "first evidence for a forested southern Greenland," Willerslev says. And based on the tree species found, Greenland must have been warmer than 50 degrees Fahrenheit (10 degrees Celsius) in summer and never colder than one degree F (–17 degrees C) in winter, much warmer than present conditions..
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Re: When did the earth start warming?
Reply #17 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:16pm
 
Ah Snopes.  but these some vegetation included barley.

"The Greenland climate was mild when they landed, but was it warm enough for growing corn?

Researchers from the National Museum in Copenhagen say the answer to the question is ‘yes’. In a unique find, they uncovered very small pieces of charred grains of barley in a Viking rubbish heap on Greenland.

The find is final proof that the first Vikings to live in Greenland did grow barley – the most important ingredient in brewing beer, making a form of porridge or baking bread, traditionally seen as staple foods in the Vikings’ nutritional diet."

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"Wild barley is not strong enough to grow in Greenland, says Henriksen, who also rules out imported barley, as even small quantities of grain would be too much for the cargo hold of the Vikings’ ships.

“If the corn had been imported, it would have been threshed, so finding parts of grains of barley is a very strong indication that the Vikings grew their own corn,” he adds. The find also confirms researchers’ theory that the Vikings tried to continue the form of life they knew so well from their original homes.
Little Ice Age stopped corn cultivation

The Greenland climate was a bit warmer than it is today, and the southernmost tip of the great island was luscious and green and no doubt tempted Eric the Red and his followers. This encouraged them to cultivate some of the seed corn they brought with them from Iceland.

The Vikings also tried to grow other agricultural crops. Their attempts to grow these crops and barley did not last long, however, as the climate cooled over the next couple of centuries until the Little Ice Age started in the 13th century."

https://www.sciencenordic.com/agriculture-archaeology-denmark/vikings-grew-barle...
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Reply #18 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:55pm
 
From Snopes again -

"But there were signs in that first campaign of Mr. Johnson’s predilection for anti-intellectualism. On several occasions, he declared that climate change was not man-made but instead caused by “sun spots” and said excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere “helps the trees grow.”"

So Snopes says CO2 is NOT a plant food. Roll Eyes
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Re: When did the earth start warming?
Reply #19 - Feb 15th, 2024 at 8:13pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2024 at 2:10pm:
Dear lee,
considering that Greenland used to be green -  1,000 years ago -
we have had higher temperatures than we have now in recent geological history.




Bobby, this is BS.

What's True
The southern fjords of Greenland see some vegetation in the summer months. However...

What's False
Greenland was primarily an ice-covered island when it was discovered by Erik the Red in the 10th century. He chose the name "Greenland" to encourage settlers to the area.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greenland-called-green-land/

Iceland should have been called Greenland.
Greenland should have been called Iceland.
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