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Reply #31 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Australia as a nation only came into existence on 1 January 1901 when the former colonies voted to become a federation.  Australia Day was until 1988 not a national holiday, before that date, it was celebrated by the states/colonies whenever the local government decreed it suitable.  Australia Day is more appropriate on 1 January compared to 26 January which is more appropriate for the establishment of New South Wales, which is only one of the seven states or territories.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It doesn't matter what day it came together. We celebrate the Queens birthday on every day except for her actual birthday. We celebrate the birth of christ on a day that has nothing to do with his birthday.

If we can do it for jesus and the Queen we can do it for Australia 🇦🇺
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Reply #32 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:49pm
 
If we move Australia day will these ones even know?

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Reply #33 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:36pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Australia as a nation only came into existence on 1 January 1901 when the former colonies voted to become a federation.  Australia Day was until 1988 not a national holiday, before that date, it was celebrated by the states/colonies whenever the local government decreed it suitable.  Australia Day is more appropriate on 1 January compared to 26 January which is more appropriate for the establishment of New South Wales, which is only one of the seven states or territories.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It doesn't matter what day it came together. We celebrate the Queens birthday on every day except for her actual birthday. We celebrate the birth of christ on a day that has nothing to do with his birthday.

If we can do it for jesus and the Queen we can do it for Australia 🇦🇺



What is a better day?
1 Jan 1901 doesn't include Aborigines any more 'inclusively' than 26 Jan or just as much.

What day would please Aborigines - for this agitation against 26 Jan is exclusively about Aboriginal grievance. What European date - all historical dates are European - would satisfy Aborigines?
None. The Abos complaining about 26 jan will complain about every other historical date. This is about a blanket, stupid revolt against Britishand European entry into Australia.

Abo grievance activist are speaking, even today, about 'white Australia', as if Australia was just Aborigines and whites.






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Reply #34 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Australia as a nation only came into existence on 1 January 1901 when the former colonies voted to become a federation.  Australia Day was until 1988 not a national holiday, before that date, it was celebrated by the states/colonies whenever the local government decreed it suitable.  Australia Day is more appropriate on 1 January compared to 26 January which is more appropriate for the establishment of New South Wales, which is only one of the seven states or territories.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It doesn't matter what day it came together. We celebrate the Queens birthday on every day except for her actual birthday. We celebrate the birth of christ on a day that has nothing to do with his birthday.

If we can do it for jesus and the Queen we can do it for Australia 🇦🇺



What is a better day?



Any day other than the anniversary of their being invaded
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Reply #35 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:52pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Australia as a nation only came into existence on 1 January 1901 when the former colonies voted to become a federation.  Australia Day was until 1988 not a national holiday, before that date, it was celebrated by the states/colonies whenever the local government decreed it suitable.  Australia Day is more appropriate on 1 January compared to 26 January which is more appropriate for the establishment of New South Wales, which is only one of the seven states or territories.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It doesn't matter what day it came together. We celebrate the Queens birthday on every day except for her actual birthday. We celebrate the birth of christ on a day that has nothing to do with his birthday.

If we can do it for jesus and the Queen we can do it for Australia 🇦🇺



What is a better day?



Any day other than the anniversary of their being invaded

Feb 30? Would that unite you and the Abos?



There was no 'invasion', thick ****.
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Reply #36 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:52pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Australia as a nation only came into existence on 1 January 1901 when the former colonies voted to become a federation.  Australia Day was until 1988 not a national holiday, before that date, it was celebrated by the states/colonies whenever the local government decreed it suitable.  Australia Day is more appropriate on 1 January compared to 26 January which is more appropriate for the establishment of New South Wales, which is only one of the seven states or territories.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It doesn't matter what day it came together. We celebrate the Queens birthday on every day except for her actual birthday. We celebrate the birth of christ on a day that has nothing to do with his birthday.

If we can do it for jesus and the Queen we can do it for Australia 🇦🇺



What is a better day?



Any day other than the anniversary of their being invaded

Feb 30? Would that unite you and the Abos?



There was no 'invasion', thick ****.


Sure there was, by asylum seekers like you
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Reply #37 - Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:43pm
 
Imagine an Australia where the likes of Smith and all the Lefty/Media folk get what they want and destroy all that the Right and Politics has created here.

Australia would not be a place one would want to live in anymore... look at how bad it has become with them already in the driver's seat.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #38 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:20am
 
Convicts in government service benefited from the shortage of skilled labour in the early years. Francis Greenway, the colony’s first architect – and a convicted ­forger – stepped straight from his transport into permanent employment. The most common gubernatorial indulgence was the ticket-of-leave – an early form of parole that gave the convict freedom, though not freedom to leave the colony. Between 1810 and 1816, some 50 per cent of male convicts who had been sentenced to seven-year terms were paroled in this fashion after they had served three years or less.

The trouble with Robert Hughes’ Fatal Shore myth of an antipodean gulag is that it’s not only an illusion, it’s an occlusion: it obscures the very real social, moral and political value in those features of the convict system that were in part a pragmatic response to economic need. We get a very different impression from the witness accounts of visitors to, and, in one rather special case, victims of the system.

In 1802, a young Frenchman named Francois Peron arrived at Sydney Harbour as part of the French “scientific” expedition commanded by Nicholas Baudin. In his journals of that voyage, Peron explicitly, though fleetingly, uses the term “revolution” to describe the mechanism of social advancement he’d witnessed first-hand at the penal colony at the end of the earth.

The mechanism of this “revolution” was, in Peron’s view, rational self-interest. The emancipated convicts were generally given land grants and starter provisions from the government stores. They were concerned with “the maintenance of order and justice, for the purposes of preserving the property they have acquired”, Peron observed.

At the same time, they “behold themselves in the situation of husbands and fathers; they have … powerful motives for becoming good members of the community in which they exist”.

Peron’s account has an English equivalent in the witness account of the 26-year-old Charles Darwin, who arrived at Sydney Cove in 1836 aboard HMS Beagle. “On the whole, as a place of punishment the object is scarcely gained, but as a means of making men outwardly honest – of converting vagabonds, most useless in one hemisphere, into active citizens in another, and thus giving birth to a new and splendid country – a grand Centre of Civilisation – it has succeeded to a degree perhaps unparalleled in history,” Darwin wrote.
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In its broad outlines the convict experience was, as Darwin put it, about remaking, conversion and elevation. But it was, nevertheless, at heart, a form of extreme punishment for mostly petty offences. For many coveys the pursuit of freedom, despite the considerable risks, was preferable to the rigidities of indentured servitude. They escaped – even from the strictly supervised chain gangs – into the bush. Many perished there.

The reason, I think, that French observers were keen to stress the philosophical implications of the Australian revolution – the wonderfully named Hyacinthe de Bougainville also makes this point during his visit of 1825 – is that the French Revolution had been so heavily freighted with unrealised, or betrayed idealism. They were attuned to the sentiments of equality and fraternity. But they had lived through bloodshed, repression and, at the end of it all, the heady swell of Bonapartism and the restoration of a repressive monarchy. What they observed at Sydney Cove was the realisation of humane social ideas without any espousal of those ideals: a revolution without a Robes­pierre; a revolution without a guillotine.

It was not, of course, a revolution without bloodshed. Or violence, in the form of dispossession. Or murder, on both sides. But it would be facile to reduce the one story – the celebratory story with a powerful contemporary resonance – to the other. To reduce everything to black and white. Sophisticated cultures deal with complex origin stories of many strands.
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Unsophisticated cultural activists, on the other hand, reduce everything to black and white, manichean good v evil.
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Reply #39 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:44am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Convicts in government service benefited from the shortage of skilled labour in the early years. Francis Greenway, the colony’s first architect – and a convicted ­forger – stepped straight from his transport into permanent employment. The most common gubernatorial indulgence was the ticket-of-leave – an early form of parole that gave the convict freedom, though not freedom to leave the colony. Between 1810 and 1816, some 50 per cent of male convicts who had been sentenced to seven-year terms were paroled in this fashion after they had served three years or less.

The trouble with Robert Hughes’ Fatal Shore myth of an antipodean gulag is that it’s not only an illusion, it’s an occlusion: it obscures the very real social, moral and political value in those features of the convict system that were in part a pragmatic response to economic need. We get a very different impression from the witness accounts of visitors to, and, in one rather special case, victims of the system.

In 1802, a young Frenchman named Francois Peron arrived at Sydney Harbour as part of the French “scientific” expedition commanded by Nicholas Baudin. In his journals of that voyage, Peron explicitly, though fleetingly, uses the term “revolution” to describe the mechanism of social advancement he’d witnessed first-hand at the penal colony at the end of the earth.

The mechanism of this “revolution” was, in Peron’s view, rational self-interest. The emancipated convicts were generally given land grants and starter provisions from the government stores. They were concerned with “the maintenance of order and justice, for the purposes of preserving the property they have acquired”, Peron observed.

At the same time, they “behold themselves in the situation of husbands and fathers; they have … powerful motives for becoming good members of the community in which they exist”.

Peron’s account has an English equivalent in the witness account of the 26-year-old Charles Darwin, who arrived at Sydney Cove in 1836 aboard HMS Beagle. On the whole, as a place of punishment the object is scarcely gained, but as a means of making men outwardly honest – of converting vagabonds, most useless in one hemisphere, into active citizens in another, and thus giving birth to a new and splendid country – a grand Centre of Civilisation – it has succeeded to a degree perhaps unparalleled in history,” Darwin wrote.
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In its broad outlines the convict experience was, as Darwin put it, about remaking, conversion and elevation. But it was, nevertheless, at heart, a form of extreme punishment for mostly petty offences. For many coveys the pursuit of freedom, despite the considerable risks, was preferable to the rigidities of indentured servitude. They escaped – even from the strictly supervised chain gangs – into the bush. Many perished there.

The reason, I think, that French observers were keen to stress the philosophical implications of the Australian revolution – the wonderfully named Hyacinthe de Bougainville also makes this point during his visit of 1825 – is that the French Revolution had been so heavily freighted with unrealised, or betrayed idealism. They were attuned to the sentiments of equality and fraternity. But they had lived through bloodshed, repression and, at the end of it all, the heady swell of Bonapartism and the restoration of a repressive monarchy. What they observed at Sydney Cove was the realisation of humane social ideas without any espousal of those ideals: a revolution without a Robes­pierre; a revolution without a guillotine.

It was not, of course, a revolution without bloodshed. Or violence, in the form of dispossession. Or murder, on both sides. But it would be facile to reduce the one story – the celebratory story with a powerful contemporary resonance – to the other. To reduce everything to black and white. Sophisticated cultures deal with complex origin stories of many strands.
Luke Slattery

Unsophisticated cultural activists, on the other hand, reduce everything to black and white, manichean good v evil.


Wow! I've never ever heard that or picked up on it before.

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Reply #40 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 12:03pm
 
The arrival of 743 British convicts at Port Jackson on January 26, 1788, is for many Australians an occasion for lamentation rather than celebration. That’s not, in itself, a bad thing. Controversy can focus the mind, and the more we debate the history of the country’s colonisation, the better. But our way of seeing these events, dominated as it is by the optic of post-colonialism and the prestige of identity politics, runs the risk of drowning out the voices of the 743 convicts who, in effect, laid the foundations for modern Australia.

There is much to celebrate in their story. It tells how a miserable convict underclass in exile went on to build a dynamic, prosperous, open and relatively egalitarian society. This had never happened before, and it hasn’t happened since.

It’s a historical story with a powerful contemporary resonance. How do contemporary societies, both developing and developed, find ways to improve and empower citizens trapped at the lower end of the social scale?  But colonial Australia found answers to the problem of social advancement when a criminal class was empowered to create a society defined by the idea of advancement and liberation. It was a social and economic revolution – a revolution without a proclamation. An accidental revolution. But a revolution nevertheless.

The chief obstacle to the dissemination of this story is the usual culprit: ignorance. To take one example: many Australians – and visitors to Australia – picture colonial Sydney and Hobart as vicious prison systems. They imagine convicts incarcerated, in leg irons, flogged for petty offences, subjected to cruel and arbitrary forms of torture.

At no stage were the run-of-the-mill convicts who went ashore at Port Jackson clapped in chains: that’s part folklore, part colonial Gothic cliche, part lazy assumption.

In 1822, the British government published the detailed report of a punctilious London lawyer named John Thomas Bigge – reputedly very small – who’d been sent to investigate the state of the convict system and suggest reforms. At their first muster the newly arrived convicts were, Bigge found, “told by the principal superintendent ‘to go and provide lodging where they could for the remainder of the day, and to come to their work in the morning’.” They weren’t chained. They weren’t imprisoned. They weren’t even confined – and they didn’t shuffle around town in leg irons.

After the hours of 3pm weekdays and on Saturdays, the convicts generally worked for themselves – fixing watches, building fences or furniture – and with their earnings they were expected to pay for their “weekly lodgings and their washing”, in Bigge’s words.

The most remarkable thing about the convict colony at the end of the earth was its air of liberality, despite the harshness of the work and the climate. Convicts were formed into various work gangs. Only hardened criminals and repeat offenders were assigned to the chain gangs.

Commissioner Bigge observed that tradesmen were generally paid “a certain weekly sum, generally amounting to 10 shillings … In return for this payment, and so long as it is regularly made, the convict is allowed to be at large at Sydney, and elsewhere, and to be at his own disposal.”
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Reply #41 - Jan 29th, 2024 at 12:09pm
 
It was the French who seemed the most acutely attuned to the political and moral force of the social experiment at Sydney Cove. The writer and illustrator Jacques Arago arrived in Sydney in 1819 aboard a ship commanded by Louis de Freycinet, who had smuggled his spirited wife Rose on board in the disguise of a deckhand.

Arago, too, was keen to lay bare the mechanisms of social elevation. “A convict arrives, condemned to seven years’ transportation. If he be of any trade, he may procure employment at it as soon as he arrives: and if he be industrious and frugal, he is soon enabled to work on his own account, and to earn money enough to begin a little business.”

A convict in this condition – unable to leave the colony yet free to earn wages – “is given as an assistant, or servant” in the form of a ­convict whose term has recently finished or “has been granted an exemption”. The servant’s labours are “recompensed; and, if he be frugal when his time has expired, he in his turn, obtains the same advantages as his master, and, like him, receives servants, who assist him in clearing fresh lands. In this manner the labour, the trouble, and the reward have been equally distributed; and while the country is improved, the man becomes better, and society is benefited.”

We have another early colonial narrative of personal elevation, though one that lies outside this French tradition of looking on – somewhat admiringly as Voltaire had also done – to English society from without. It’s the narrative of Joseph Mason, a convict who arrived in the colony in 1831 and returned home after an early pardon. Far from being fettered or in any sense constrained, Mason was free to roam and explore the countryside. “I have traced the (Nepean) river its whole length through the mountain both alone and with company,” he boasted.

These witness accounts of early Sydney miss much detail, some supporting their vision of a benign social revolution, some challenging it. They fail, for example, to note the tensions in the colony between ex-convict emancipists, free settlers, convicts and the military; there is only a glancing mention of the fact that many convicts spend their earnings on grog, while others return to crime. And they fail by and large to see that the sunny social experiment was made possible by an act of colonial dispossession.

Contemporary Australians, and particularly the young, tend to view the early settlement solely through the prism of colonisation and dispossession. Many others have absorbed the gulag myth propagated by Hughes, who wilfully confused the harshness of the places of secondary punishment – such as Port Arthur, Norfolk Island and Moreton Bay – with conditions and practices in the main settlements.

The untold story of the Australian revolution carries its freight – moral, political, philosophical – into our century. It suggests that individuals, and entire societies, can be improved by improving their conditions; that work and purpose are, in fact, morally uplifting.

It illuminates some of the causes of social misery, as well as some of the cures. It’s an optimistic, and a badly needed, tale.

Peron, Arago and de Bougainville were convinced they’d witnessed something worthy of philosophical reflection. Their compatriot Jules (20,000 Leagues Beneath the Sea) Verne would later embellish Peron’s account in a non-fiction mash-up of famous maritime voyages. “A more worthy subject for the reflection of a philosopher or statesman never existed – no brighter example of the influence of social institutions can be imagined – than that afforded on the distant shores of which we are speaking,” wrote Verne.

But philosophers and statesmen were a little short on the ground at Sydney Cove.

This cheering vision of what has often been seen as an infernal colony, shouldn’t skew towards utopianism. In its broad outlines the convict experience was, as Darwin put it, about remaking, conversion and elevation. But it was, nevertheless, at heart, a form of extreme punishment for mostly petty offences. For many coveys the pursuit of freedom, despite the considerable risks, was preferable to the rigidities of indentured servitude. They escaped – even from the strictly supervised chain gangs – into the bush. Many perished there.

The reason, I think, that French observers were keen to stress the philosophical implications of the Australian revolution – the wonderfully named Hyacinthe de Bougainville also makes this point during his visit of 1825 – is that the French Revolution had been so heavily freighted with unrealised, or betrayed idealism. They were attuned to the sentiments of equality and fraternity. But they had lived through bloodshed, repression and, at the end of it all, the heady swell of Bonapartism and the restoration of a repressive monarchy. What they observed at Sydney Cove was the realisation of humane social ideas without any espousal of those ideals: a revolution without a Robes­pierre; a revolution without a guillotine.


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Reply #42 - Jun 20th, 2024 at 10:30am
 
10 Street Signs And Why They Are Homophobic




The Babylon Bee has put together the following list of aggressively homophobic street signs to provide a helpful guide to combat hate:

One Way: No! There are many, many ways, you bigot.

Do Not Enter: Only a hateful heteronormative road sign would attempt to dictate where things can or cannot enter.

Do Not Block The Intersection: Is this some hidden message trying to prohibit protesters from blocking traffic? Nice try, fascists!

Yield: Yield? To what? To traditional societal views on human sexuality? Never!

Exit Only: Everyone knows that one person's exit is another person's entrance. Our exits, our choice!

Deaf Children Near: This sign has nothing to do with promoting the LGBTQ agenda… tear it down!

Men At Work: So now you think you have the authority to define what a "man" is? You're not even trying to hide your hate.

Right Turn Only: Why only to the Right? This is literal election interference.

No Passing: Attacking the right of men to pass as women is actual genocide.

STOP: WE WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL EVERYONE IS GAY!


Don't worry, the day is coming soon when all roads will be freed from the oppressive hatred spread by the signs listed above, leaving all streets to be as gay as they want to be!
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