Australian Politics Forum - The cost of sending a kid to school this year

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #15 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 6:48pm “riff raff” meaning “chodes” wanting better for their kids? Why do you have such VERY LOW self esteem, horse boy?
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Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year
Reply #16 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 7:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 9:16pm:

Gordon,
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Soccer - $600 (3 month season)

What - when I was a kid my only soccer expenses were the boots and uniform
which were cheap.

Decent soccer boots will cost $300

OK - prices have gone up since I was a kid. Embarrassed

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Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year
Reply #17 - Jan 20^th, 2024 at 9:03am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 12:52pm:

as for school fees, they are really just a barrier to keep out the riff raff.

you are paying to have a good group of humans around much like you pay a premium to live in an exclusive suburb.
you are paying for the contacts and peer group, not so much for the education

Partly correct.

In NSW, the HSC mark is effected by the average mark of others in your school so you get a small bump from being in a school with lots of smart kids.

Being in an expensive school does filter out the worst kids.

As for teachers, you can get good and bad teachers in both public and private, but the bad teachers in a good private school won't last unless they improve but in public, they can be poor teachers but won't loose their job apart from actual misconduct.

Another cost which is actually subsiding both public and private schools is private coaching and it's become an arms race. If you want your kid to be in with a shot for a selective school, coaching from year 2 is needed. Some parents with kids in selective schools spend close to the amount of a private school in coaching fees.

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Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year
Reply #18 - Jan 20^th, 2024 at 1:07pm

Don't forget the 'Social' aspect of educating your kids.
People Skills.
Kids who go through the Public (Hard Knocks) system face a greater social adversity, but when they get through it - they emerge with a greater sense of self and social esteem.
Unlike kids who are mostly taught Home School or spend the majority of their time after their (usually) Private School with one-on-one Tutors - rather than socialising after school.
Sure, they may become more 'educated' than other kids - but their lack of Social skills creates the usual 'arsehole' or 'idiot' in the workplace that can't communicate properly or behave properly (let alone 'think for themselves').
I have Cousins in NZ who went to a really affluent School and were always Privately Tutored after school.
As kids, they wondered why the other kids were playing in the park on the swings, etc.
They went through Uni and found themselves 'isolated' mostly. Found it hard to form a relationship and get married. Found it hard to work with Co-workers and more.
Things are better for them now, but for most of their childhood and into their early 30's - they were 'aliens' among humans.
Might as well have been Ophans in an Institution all their lives where 'education' was just a job.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52840 At my desk.	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #19 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 6:46am Private tutors and private schools are not the same thing.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56770 Gender:	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #20 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 8:21am Yes, we know that... and?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52840 At my desk.	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #21 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:38am Private school kids are not lacking in self esteem or social skills. At least, not any more than public school kids.
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Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year
Reply #22 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:43am

Didn't say that.
Saying that the Social Skills of a Public School kid comes out superior than that of a Private School kid.
Public kids (hence the word 'Public', compared to 'Private') know how to make their own fun and initiate more social connection. Private kids tend to keep to themselves and wait for approval and funding before they socialise.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52840 At my desk.	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #23 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 12:41pm Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2024 at 9:43am: Private kids tend to keep to themselves and wait for approval and funding before they socialise. You live in a fantasy world.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56770 Gender:	Re: The cost of sending a kid to school this year Reply #24 - Jan 21^st, 2024 at 1:00pm Gee FD. What kinda world do you think we're all living in? Of course its a Fantasy World. Show me, even in this country - where something isn't existing in some 'make-believe' state of being.
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