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Trouble with China
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Reply #1 - Jan 15th, 2024 at 9:12pm
 
No doubt the President of Nauru and his political mates have had a very healthy boost to their Swiss bank accounts.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Jan 16th, 2024 at 9:58pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Jan 15th, 2024 at 9:12pm:
No doubt the President of Nauru and his political mates have had a very healthy boost to their Swiss bank accounts.    Roll Eyes


Hey ! They’re politicians. . . . .
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Big Trouble In Big China...
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Reply #5 - Jan 17th, 2024 at 8:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2024 at 4:27pm:


To paraphrase Ms Rice-Ravies, well they would, wouldn't they?  Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5th, 2024 at 2:37pm:


Not surprising. This man will be held in limbo for the foreseeable future as his death sentence is used as a bargaining chip to attempt to force Australian compliance with the PRC's demands.  Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27th, 2024 at 1:52pm:


Far from wanting tariffs lifted, we should be banning all exports to China until they understand their actions are unacceptable.
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Reply #34 - Jun 16th, 2024 at 2:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 1:07pm:


If AnAl had any spine he would ban all trade with China until they learn their lesson about unacceptable behaviour. But the snivelling little toerag will just go on bending over. Angry
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Reply #36 - Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:35pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:14pm:


Do you have an opinion on the matter, Brian? Rolling eyes emojis don't say much to the context of the story.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2024 at 11:14pm:


Do you have an opinion on the matter, Brian? Rolling eyes emojis don't say much to the context of the story.


I believe both parties will seek to undermine any agreement reached, Unsub. Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 8:19pm:


Do you have an opinion on the matter, Brian? Rolling eyes emojis don't say much to the context of the story. You seem to be fishing for responses.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 17th, 2024 at 10:39pm:
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Do you have an opinion on the matter, Brian? Rolling eyes emojis don't say much to the context of the story. You seem to be fishing for responses.


I do not offer an opinion, just facilitate the chance for others to comment, UnSub.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:12pm:


There has been no better example of the utter contempt the Chinese hold for Australia than these people thinking they can act like this in the Australian Parliament.  I also see they had their usual rent a rabble outside attempting to intimidate anti Chinese protestors.  Roll Eyes

They need a lesson, sooner rather than later.
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[url=China removing religious and cultural references from Xinjiang place names, rights groups say]China removing religious and cultural references from Xinjiang place names, rights groups say[/url] Roll Eyes
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The trouble is anti-China propagandists?
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LTYC You have overstepped the mark.  You have not obeyed the forum rules.  You are hereby banned from this forum.  Begone.
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As long as the UN and US don't recognize Taiwan, China can ignore the separatists on Taiwan who will only succeed  in wasting resources on buying US weapons, and moving the island's wealth creating industries to the US,  to please the US.

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How is China bullying the democracies?

And the triumphalist  US - seeking global hegemony  - is the reason  Putin lost his mind.....Russia was willing to join NATO after the demise of the USSR.

Dumb Labor politician, falling for the "China threat" theory.   

Interestingly, China and India are sorting out their differences, while more countries want to join BRICS.

The days of a unipolar US-led world are over. 
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Seems China has followed standard protocol and notified Australian and NZ authorities of its intention to conduct the live fire exercise. Nothing unusual here, we and other navies do it all the time. Having received the notification the authorities issue a NOTAM (notice to airmen) and an NTM ( notice to mariners) warning aircraft and ships to avoid the area.  Every airline receives these as matter of course, even if they are not operating  near the area. 

What is unusual is conducting an exercise near a commercial flight path. if this is the case then they have deliberately escalated the tension.  More information is needed regarding the alleged course changes of the aircraft and whether they were forced as a result of this notification.
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Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.

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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.


Who is in a similar situation to Taiwan, Divide?  Why can't they limit their protest to around Taiwan, why do they have to protest in the Tasman Sea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 8:02pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.


Who is in a similar situation to Taiwan, Divide?  Why can't they limit their protest to around Taiwan, why do they have to protest in the Tasman Sea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Because according to international rules,  other navies have a right to transit the Taiwan Strait, so China can  protest by its actions in the Tasman sea.

2. Because Oz is the 51st state of the US (or is it the 52nd...); and China is using the opportunity to show its naval prowess to the US who are annoying China by arming Taiwan.

At least  Marles  has some idea of balance in international affairs, unlike the paranoid RW fool Patterson who wants to attack the PM for not telling Australians about the vicinity of Chinese warships "quickly enough", and is banging on (like you) about sinister designs of the PLA navy who are acting - as noted by Marles -  acording to rules of international law, when the Oz navy regularly exercises on China's doorstep, also within the rules.... though the Chinese have objections to warships entering the Taiwan strait:

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Since 2018 China has denied that the concept of international waters applies to the Taiwan Strait.[17] China does not claim sovereignty over the entire strait but seeks to regulate what it views as [u]"support for the Taiwan authorities and muscle-flexing against the mainland".

ie, support by the US and it allies, and you.....

Patterson has no capacity for a balanced view; he wants the right to send warships though the Taiwan Strait, while denying the PLA navy the same rights re international waters.

Fortunately, Trump is less willing to start WW3 over Taiwan; today when a reporter asked whether Trump would go to war to defend Taiwan, Trump answered  "I'm not going to tell you".

(And Trump well knows Xi's view on the matter, he has regular phone calls with him).

Unlike you delusional 'democracy is freedom' ideologues, Trump is more circumspect.....

 
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The PRC is a paper tiger.  It will not invade Taiwan because the Taiwanese can defend themselves and will.  They come to the Tasman Sea because they can't read a map and think they are still near Taiwan.  They seek to intimidate Australia and New Zealand with a show of force but they will have the opposite effect and drive us closer to the US.  Such a silly waste of fuel, mileage on the clock.  Australia does not respond well to intimidation, they will find.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Excellent! China only understands strength and these exercises are an signal that their continued expansion in the SCS will only be tolerated for so long.
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Excellent! China only understands strength and these exercises are an signal that their continued expansion in the SCS will only be tolerated for so long. 


Speaking of strength, you better hope the US never recognizes Taiwan as an independent state.

google

In the early years of Nazi rule, the German economy was significantly smaller than the US economy, roughly 10% to 20% of the US economy


...cf with the Chinese economy today, which has a larger manufacturing base than the US - a reality which is greatly exercising Trump.....

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China rejects US defence chief's 'groundless' warnings on Taiwan invasion threat - like a two-bob watch, the yanks are right twice a day... Shocked Shocked
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This is what comes of accepting Chinese largesse....They will take payment in other ways when the cash is unable to be paid.   As the old Irish saying goes,  when you sup with the devil use a long spoon.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #117 - Jul 22nd, 2025 at 8:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 22nd, 2025 at 4:14pm:


Anyone with any military awareness understands that a PRC invasion of Taiwan will be an extremely difficult and high risk operation, even with modern technology.  Historically there are very few such large scale operations that have been a success.

These are probably just psychological warfare operations that are a part of the PRC campaign to undermine Taiwans resistance from within.
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Reply #118 - Jul 23rd, 2025 at 2:06pm
 
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