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Re: Trouble with China
Reply #90 - Feb 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
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Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.
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Re: Trouble with China
Reply #91 - Feb 26th, 2025 at 8:02pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.


Who is in a similar situation to Taiwan, Divide?  Why can't they limit their protest to around Taiwan, why do they have to protest in the Tasman Sea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #92 - Feb 26th, 2025 at 11:31pm
 
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Reply #93 - Feb 27th, 2025 at 3:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 8:02pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 6:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 26th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 7:53pm:


Stop being paranoid, Brian (like the ASPI and other blind 'democracy' ideologues). 

China will only attack you if YOU fight to defend Taiwan's sovereignty - which is none of your business.

Fortunately, the US - and the UN - isn't about to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty, despite the 'democracy' bs of some delusional Labor politicians.

Note, Chinese citizens are free provided they don't attack their  "communist " government like we attack our dysfunctional tweedle dee/tweedle dum governments.


Why then do we have Chinese warships patrolling in the Tasman Sea?  Why then do we have the Chinese acting as aggressively as they do in the South China Sea?  Your words are betrayed by PRC actions.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


To warn you not to send Oz warships to the Taiwan strait to "defend" Taiwan's "sovereignty";  China has shown it has the capacity to respond in kind.


Who is in a similar situation to Taiwan, Divide?  Why can't they limit their protest to around Taiwan, why do they have to protest in the Tasman Sea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. Because according to international rules,  other navies have a right to transit the Taiwan Strait, so China can  protest by its actions in the Tasman sea.

2. Because Oz is the 51st state of the US (or is it the 52nd...); and China is using the opportunity to show its naval prowess to the US who are annoying China by arming Taiwan.

At least  Marles  has some idea of balance in international affairs, unlike the paranoid RW fool Patterson who wants to attack the PM for not telling Australians about the vicinity of Chinese warships "quickly enough", and is banging on (like you) about sinister designs of the PLA navy who are acting - as noted by Marles -  acording to rules of international law, when the Oz navy regularly exercises on China's doorstep, also within the rules.... though the Chinese have objections to warships entering the Taiwan strait:

(wiki)

Since 2018 China has denied that the concept of international waters applies to the Taiwan Strait.[17] China does not claim sovereignty over the entire strait but seeks to regulate what it views as [u]"support for the Taiwan authorities and muscle-flexing against the mainland".

ie, support by the US and it allies, and you.....

Patterson has no capacity for a balanced view; he wants the right to send warships though the Taiwan Strait, while denying the PLA navy the same rights re international waters.

Fortunately, Trump is less willing to start WW3 over Taiwan; today when a reporter asked whether Trump would go to war to defend Taiwan, Trump answered  "I'm not going to tell you".

(And Trump well knows Xi's view on the matter, he has regular phone calls with him).

Unlike you delusional 'democracy is freedom' ideologues, Trump is more circumspect.....

 
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Reply #94 - Feb 27th, 2025 at 8:15pm
 
The PRC is a paper tiger.  It will not invade Taiwan because the Taiwanese can defend themselves and will.  They come to the Tasman Sea because they can't read a map and think they are still near Taiwan.  They seek to intimidate Australia and New Zealand with a show of force but they will have the opposite effect and drive us closer to the US.  Such a silly waste of fuel, mileage on the clock.  Australia does not respond well to intimidation, they will find.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #95 - Mar 4th, 2025 at 10:56am
 
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Reply #96 - Mar 9th, 2025 at 3:48pm
 
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Reply #97 - Mar 9th, 2025 at 3:54pm
 
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Reply #98 - Mar 10th, 2025 at 11:38am
 
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Reply #104 - Apr 28th, 2025 at 11:12am
 
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