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Re: The paradox of atheism.
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Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:24am:
Atheists present natural selection as the truth about life - but then say that of course we should defy it by acting humanely, compassionately, in accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.

Christian morality, humanism, religions defying natural selection - are they the result of natural selection?


Not all atheists say that. The biggest atheist movement in history - communism - said submit or die. They killed a few hundred million people.
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 9:49am
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:24am:
Atheists present natural selection as the truth about life - but then say that of course we should defy it by acting humanely, compassionately, in accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.

Christian morality, humanism, religions defying natural selection - are they the result of natural selection?


Not all atheists say that. The biggest atheist movement in history - communism - said submit or die. They killed a few hundred million people.

Stalin based his rule on the hierarchy of the Gregorian Christian Orthodox order... He originally considered becoming a Gregorian Orthodox priest. Between the ages of 15 and 20, he attended the Tbilisi Theological Seminary.

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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 11:32am
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:24am:
Atheists present natural selection as the truth about life - but then say that of course we should defy it by acting humanely, compassionately, in accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.

Christian morality, humanism, religions defying natural selection - are they the result of natural selection?


Not all atheists say that. The biggest atheist movement in history - communism - said submit or die. They killed a few hundred million people.



They were selecting for the New Man, Communist man.
They wanted to accelerate netural selection in service of an ideal. Another ideological eugenics.
ANd people quickly adapted to the new environment: they betrayed and dobbed in each other.
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 11:34am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:24am:
Atheists present natural selection as the truth about life - but then say that of course we should defy it by acting humanely, compassionately, in accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.

Christian morality, humanism, religions defying natural selection - are they the result of natural selection?



Most christians acknowledge natural selection.

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accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.


This is mostly expressed as religon not christianity, you obviously modified this due to your limitations. Imagine if you had to associate your view to include Islam or Buddism?

Also, morality in no way associates to religion or Christianity. All of the original religious text is barbaric and well diverse from morality including the Christian versions. Morality clearly existed long before religion.

If you look at the groups like the Christian Nationalists, you find a group a long way away from morality and Christianity. Many christian groups loudly expouse morality while seldom practising it.

How do you line up Nationalist religion with a religion born in the middle east with stories of a black man from that national region? Yes, there really is a whole religious segment that somehow align this with White American nationalism or Brazilian Nationalism or German nationalism?
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Re: The paradox of atheism.
Reply #19 - Yesterday at 11:47am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 9:49am:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:18am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10:24am:
Atheists present natural selection as the truth about life - but then say that of course we should defy it by acting humanely, compassionately, in accordance with our moral code rooted in Christianity.
Christian morality, humanism, religions defying natural selection - are they the result of natural selection?


Not all atheists say that. The biggest atheist movement in history - communism - said submit or die. They killed a few hundred million people.

Stalin based his rule on the hierarchy of the Gregorian Christian Orthodox order... He originally considered becoming a Gregorian Orthodox priest. Between the ages of 15 and 20, he attended the Tbilisi Theological Seminary.



It was Jugashvili family tradition, especially his mother hopes rather then Josef's consideration.
Josef's natural inclination was Robin Goodian and Marx's "expropriate the expropriators" provided him with good excuse and sacked him into commie ideology, the rest, including  his atheism, was matter of political logic.

BTW, while you are on this trek check out Mao's religious background.
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Re: The paradox of atheism.
Reply #20 - Yesterday at 7:00pm
 
Atheism is a negative, a negation.

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