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Ukraine is losing the war.
Dec 30th, 2023 at 2:30pm
 
Some excerpts from a good article here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/ind...


Ukraine’s hopes for victory fade in the face of waning
Western support and Putin’s relentless war machine


Analysis by Tim Lister, CNN
7 minute read
Updated 10:32 AM EST, Fri December 29, 2023


As December came to a close, Ukraine suffered the biggest Russian air attack since the start of the full-scale invasion. Russia fired 158 drones and missiles – including hypersonic Kinzhals – at targets across Ukraine on Friday, killing at least 18 people and injuring scores more. Zelensky said Russia used “nearly every type of weapon in its arsenal” in the strikes.


The Russian way of war, absorbing hideous losses of men and materiel but throwing yet more into the fight, has blunted the Ukrainian military’s tactical and technological edge, as its top general admitted in a candid essay last month.

The mood in Moscow seems grimly determined: the goals of the “special military operation” will be achieved, and the fighting will continue until they are.
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As the long frontline becomes ever more calcified, the Kremlin senses greater skepticism among Kyiv’s Western backers that Ukraine can recover the 17% of its territory still occupied by Russian forces.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is relishing the much more partisan atmosphere in Washington, where many in the Republican Party are questioning the purpose of sending Ukraine another $61 billion worth of aid as requested by the Biden administration, assessing that it will achieve little on the battlefield.

But the Russians’ vast reserves of manpower and hardware (Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu boasted that he could raise 25 million men if necessary) mean they can continue bludgeoning the smaller Ukrainian military, making incremental gains at enormous cost.





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Reply #1 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 2:38pm
 
I said right from the start -
Zelensky should have given NATO an ultimatum right from the start - 24th Feb, 2022 -
either NATO troops and weapons join the fight in Ukraine
or Ukraine surrenders and NATO will have Russia on their borders.

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Reply #2 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 3:29pm
 

How many poor Ukrainians has Zelensky
sent to their deaths in an unwinnable war?


He won't tell anyone - it's a State secret - so he says.
Estimates are from 100,000 to half a million or even a lot more.

How much Ukrainian property and infrastructure has been destroyed?
I've heard estimates as high as US$ 1 trillion - and possibly more.

90% of the beautiful city of Mariupol has been destroyed as just one example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol


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Reply #3 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:33pm
 
CNN is fake news.

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Northern Ukraine, a Ukrainian MANPADS team guarding a 35D6M radar installation successfully engages a Russian cruise missile with a 9K38 Igla, downing it.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740222280645640590



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Synkivka, Russian forces attempted a new (unsuccessful) assault towards the town, down the same route used by another failed push earlier this month.

Ukrainian forces from the 14th and 30th Mechanized hit them with accurate ATGM, artillery, and DPICM cluster munition fire
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740391385797406956


Lots of good videos showing Russian crap being blown up from that link
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Reply #4 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:37pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
CNN is fake news.

Quote:
Northern Ukraine, a Ukrainian MANPADS team guarding a 35D6M radar installation successfully engages a Russian cruise missile with a 9K38 Igla, downing it.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740222280645640590



Quote:
Synkivka, Russian forces attempted a new (unsuccessful) assault towards the town, down the same route used by another failed push earlier this month.

Ukrainian forces from the 14th and 30th Mechanized hit them with accurate ATGM, artillery, and DPICM cluster munition fire
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740391385797406956


Lots of good videos showing Russian crap being blown up from that link



Did you read the article?


But the Russians’ vast reserves of manpower and hardware (Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu boasted that he could raise 25 million men if necessary) mean they can continue bludgeoning the smaller Ukrainian military, making incremental gains at enormous cost.
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Reply #5 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:37pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
CNN is fake news.

Quote:
Northern Ukraine, a Ukrainian MANPADS team guarding a 35D6M radar installation successfully engages a Russian cruise missile with a 9K38 Igla, downing it.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740222280645640590



Quote:
Synkivka, Russian forces attempted a new (unsuccessful) assault towards the town, down the same route used by another failed push earlier this month.

Ukrainian forces from the 14th and 30th Mechanized hit them with accurate ATGM, artillery, and DPICM cluster munition fire
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1740391385797406956


Lots of good videos showing Russian crap being blown up from that link



Did you read the article?


But the Russians’ vast reserves of manpower and hardware (Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu boasted that he could raise 25 million men if necessary) mean they can continue bludgeoning the smaller Ukrainian military, making incremental gains at enormous cost.


I have read many articles on this war.
Most thought Russian would win in a couple of months how long has it been going on?

Massive equipment losses from Russia their tanks are useless they lost a few planes on Xmas day.

Is that the first time a MANPAD has shot down a missile?  Wink
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Reply #6 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 5:23pm
 
Baron -
Ukraine can't win any more than Hitler could win.
Russia is too large and has too many men to send into the meat grinder.

Russia doesn't care about how many of their own men are killed -
they have no respect for human life - they are not normal human beings -
they are psycho killers.
Stalin sacrificed 25 million Russian people to beat the Germans.
Putin is no different - Russians are crazy.



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Reply #7 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 5:49pm
 

Putin is a mass murderer who should be hanged at the Hague -
U.N.’s International Court of Justice -
but that will never happen.
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Reply #8 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 9:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 5:23pm:
Baron -
Ukraine can't win any more than Hitler could win.
Russia is too large and has too many men to send into the meat grinder.

Russia doesn't care about how many of their own men are killed -
they have no respect for human life - they are not normal human beings -
they are psycho killers.
Stalin sacrificed 25 million Russian people to beat the Germans.
Putin is no different - Russians are crazy.





ukraine is taking far more losses than the russian federation is in order to defend.. uh... can't figure that out yet, but it's definitely worth dying over
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Reply #9 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 10:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 5:23pm:
Baron -
Ukraine can't win any more than Hitler could win.
Russia is too large and has too many men to send into the meat grinder.

Russia doesn't care about how many of their own men are killed -
they have no respect for human life - they are not normal human beings -
they are psycho killers.
Stalin sacrificed 25 million Russian people to beat the Germans.
Putin is no different - Russians are crazy.





Ukraine are defending their land.

Are you saying they should bend over and  let Russia take over their land?



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Reply #10 - Dec 30th, 2023 at 10:04pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 10:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2023 at 5:23pm:
Baron -
Ukraine can't win any more than Hitler could win.
Russia is too large and has too many men to send into the meat grinder.

Russia doesn't care about how many of their own men are killed -
they have no respect for human life - they are not normal human beings -
they are psycho killers.
Stalin sacrificed 25 million Russian people to beat the Germans.
Putin is no different - Russians are crazy.





Ukraine are defending their land.

Are you saying they should bend over and  let Russia take over their land?





probs gonna be the same result eitherway
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Reply #11 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 10:22pm
 
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Seventh aircraft in a week: Ukrainian Air Forces have shot down one more Russian Su-34.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1760202100267471107


Russian aircraft are no match for US Patriot missiles.
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Reply #12 - Feb 29th, 2024 at 10:23pm
 
Quote:
Anton Gerashchenko
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Ukrainian Defenders shoot down aircraft faster than I write posts Smiley

This morning, they shot down two more Su-34 aircraft! Glory!

That makes 12 Russian aircraft shot down in 10 days!


https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1763134634613710955


The US Patriot missiles are shooting down Russian planes.

Israel is proving Russian air defences are no match for F35 in Syria.

Russian tanks are steel coffins when put up against decent ATGM.

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Reply #13 - Feb 29th, 2024 at 11:43pm
 
Russia will ultimately lose in Ukraine. It can't possibly occupy a country of Ukraine's size that now hate's Russia's guts. Don't believe me?

Go to Afghanistan.
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Reply #14 - Mar 4th, 2024 at 11:07pm
 
Soviet comrades helped old ladies across roads in Poland and East Germany for 40 years. Six million others wanted to but were dead fighting Germans. Putin thinks krauts want to invade Russia again. Krauts want to use the big missiles and they have all Europe in NATO now. As Putin lost .3m troops for 150km in Ukraine, the whole country will take 2million Russian dead. 2mill for Poland. 2 mill for Germany, again. Then they can help old..
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