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Reply #45 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

Would I have to declare my Honda?

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Of course and the person who gave it to you would have to declare it too as a gift.

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I guess I'll have to sell my investment properties and give away Honda so I can get a tiny Govt stipend for a weekly can of cat food. Angry

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Reply #46 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

Would I have to declare my Honda?

https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg

Of course and the person who gave it to you would have to declare it too as a gift.

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What you gave away or sold for less than its
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(for example, money, car, second home, land, farm)

Stalin said.

I guess I'll have to sell my investment properties and give away Honda so I can get a tiny Govt stipend for a weekly can of cat food. Angry

investment properties Grin

Don't even bother filling it out.

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

question 44.

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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #47 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:21pm:

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Answered above Dufus. Roll Eyes

Which section on the official form that applicants must sign asks for disclosure of cash?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give me the number.

I did a.pdf search for cash and it's not mentioned as cash on hand.

That's strange as they ask every other possible question.

That's right.

The official form does not ask how much cash they have.

I've filled in about half a dozen of those forms for my parents, so I know.

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So, once again, aquascoot is full of sh!t.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21130 Gender:	Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension Reply #48 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm: I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc. So they don't know about the cash yet?
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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #49 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

Would I have to declare my Honda?

https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg

Of course and the person who gave it to you would have to declare it too as a gift.

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What you gave away or sold for less than its
market value
(for example, money, car, second home, land, farm)

Stalin said.

I guess I'll have to sell my investment properties and give away Honda so I can get a tiny Govt stipend for a weekly can of cat food. Angry

investment properties Grin

Don't even bother filling it out.

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

My mum has loads of $ and I believe all she gets is a travel card. If I can get that I'll be happy

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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #50 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:21pm:

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Answered above Dufus. Roll Eyes

Which section on the official form that applicants must sign asks for disclosure of cash?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give me the number.

I did a.pdf search for cash and it's not mentioned as cash on hand.

That's strange as they ask every other possible question.

That's right.

The official form does not ask how much cash they have.

I've filled in about half a dozen of those forms for my parents, so I know.

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So, once again, aquascoot is full of sh!t.

But what about the $100K under his mattress?

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Re: Lotto Winner Loses Access To Pension
Reply #51 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:53pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

Would I have to declare my Honda?

https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg

Of course and the person who gave it to you would have to declare it too as a gift.

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Quote:

What you gave away or sold for less than its
market value
(for example, money, car, second home, land, farm)

Stalin said.

I guess I'll have to sell my investment properties and give away Honda so I can get a tiny Govt stipend for a weekly can of cat food. Angry

investment properties Grin

Don't even bother filling it out.

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

My mum has loads of $ and I believe all she gets is a travel card. If I can get that I'll be happy

I know someone who gets nothing because he has super and some shares.

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Reply #52 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:54pm

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So they don't know about the cash yet? Grin

They knew about it on the day I filled out the forms, but they said there was no need to declare it.

"Just answer all the questions on the form, honestly" were her exact words.

And as we all now know, the form does not ask anything about cash under the mattress, in the wallet/purse, or anywhere else.

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Reply #53 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:21pm:

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Answered above Dufus. Roll Eyes

Which section on the official form that applicants must sign asks for disclosure of cash?

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-07/sa369-2307en-f....

Just give me the number.

I did a.pdf search for cash and it's not mentioned as cash on hand.

That's strange as they ask every other possible question.

That's right.

The official form does not ask how much cash they have.

I've filled in about half a dozen of those forms for my parents, so I know.

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So, once again, aquascoot is full of sh!t.

But what about the $100K under his mattress?

It wasn't quite that much, and I (i.e. mum) didn't have to declare it.

"Just answer all the questions on the form, honestly" were the Centrelink officer's exact words.

And, as we all now know, the form does not ask anything about cash under the mattress, in the wallet/purse, or anywhere else.

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Reply #54 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:03pm

About 5 or 10 years back I was reading about a country (I believe it was somewhere like Denmark but I'm not sure) where once you reached pension age you received a letter from the government and/or their Centrelink 'equivalent' congratulating you on reaching pension age and informing you that your pension payments will commence on whatever the date was when you became eligible.

I assume they must already have your bank account details on their records so they can commence payments (they probably have it from their Tax Department or whatever they call it over there).

No 18 page, 60 question forms to fill in like Australia.

No questions about assets such as ancient $2 chairs or $14 dodgy Aldi toasters. Grin

Nothing but getting the age pension when eligible and not having any 'hoops' to jump through just to get it.

Sounds like Heaven. Cool

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Reply #55 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:09pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

About 5 or 10 years back I was reading about a country (I believe it was somewhere like Denmark but I'm not sure) where once you reached pension age you received a letter from the government and/or their Centrelink 'equivalent' congratulating you on reaching pension age and informing you that your pension payments will commence on whatever the date was when you became eligible.

I assume they must already have your bank account details on their records so they can commence payments (they probably have it from their Tax Department or whatever they call it over there).

No 18 page, 60 question forms to fill in like Australia.

No questions about assets such as ancient $2 chairs or $14 dodgy Aldi toasters. Grin

Nothing but getting the age pension when eligible and not having any 'hoops' to jump through just to get it.

Sounds like Heaven. Cool

Australia is a fools paradise - we put up with it and keep voting for their crap.

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Reply #56 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:10pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:03pm:

About 5 or 10 years back I was reading about a country (I believe it was somewhere like Denmark but I'm not sure) where once you reached pension age you received a letter from the government and/or their Centrelink 'equivalent' congratulating you on reaching pension age and informing you that your pension payments will commence on whatever the date was when you became eligible.

I assume they must already have your bank account details on their records so they can commence payments (they probably have it from their Tax Department or whatever they call it over there).

No 18 page, 60 question forms to fill in like Australia.

No questions about assets such as ancient $2 chairs or $14 dodgy Aldi toasters. Grin

Nothing but getting the age pension when eligible and not having any 'hoops' to jump through just to get it.

Sounds like Heaven. Cool

That happens in Austria.

60 for women, and 65 for men.

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Reply #57 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:14pm

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So they don't know about the cash yet? Grin

Gregg and Andrei in lockstep. That's something I thought I'd never see.

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Reply #59 - Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:29pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

I filled one out in a Centrelink office recently (when my father passed away) and the Centrelink officer told me that I only needed to declare what money my mother had in banks, super, etc.

So they don't know about the cash yet? Grin

Gregg and Andrei in lockstep. That's something I thought I'd never see.

Andrei? - Andrei Hicks?

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